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LED Lightsbulbs in Light Fixtures

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Frok
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Has anyone found an LED light bulb that works well in an enclosed light fixture?

I've tried a lot of different bulbs that claim to work and they all start flickering or go dim within a year. It's making me think this whole LED bulb industry is bogus.


tgivaughn
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ALL my LEDs have worked in my Lightolier wall globes from 1980
Ergo it might be the fixture if ALL are bad, since Lightolier is the best, always
but some LED R40s in other Lightoliers have been an advertising lie 10-20% of the time.

Ten words or less ... a goal unattainable
Ribeye-Rare
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Frok said:

I've tried a lot of different bulbs that claim to work and they all start flickering or go dim within a year. It's making me think this whole LED bulb industry is bogus.
I'm disappointed as well.

AFAIC - "Lasts 13 years" = "The check's in the mail."

I've tried 'name' brand, off brand, etc., etc. --

I had an electrical supply salesman tell me that heat kills those things, right after he tried to sell me LED replacements for all my old T12 8' fluorescent tubes in my buildings with 20' peaked ceilings that probably get 120 degrees or more in the summer! I passed.

Others' mileage may vary, I'll admit.
bco2003
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The $7 LED bulbs I purchased in ~2013 lasted much longer than today's junk. Have had the best luck with FEIT recently though.
Apache
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My LED Flashlights, lamps, outdoor lights etc. work wonderfully.
LED bulbs are absolute trash & seem to "burn" out quicker than incandescent ones. Maddening because they cost more, burn out faster & are full of non recyclable plastic.
mefoghorn
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Same frustration here. My latest GE Reveal bulbs are also flickering over my bathroom mirrors. I've tried the Feit brand with same result.
Kenneth_2003
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I don't think the issue is the LED. The issue with the "bulbs" is the Chinese labor camp boards that handle the conversion of your 120V AC wall power to the 12V (or whatever it is) DC needed to power the LED.

I've seen some YT videos where the guy tore them apart and troubleshot them and the problem was always on the power conversion, usually poor solder that let go.
Apache
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Whatever the internal issue may be, the end result is the expensive bulbs I but to last for thousands of hours, don't. And it sucks.
javajaws
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Apache said:

Whatever the internal issue may be, the end result is the expensive bulbs I but to last for thousands of hours, don't. And it sucks.
Government over regulation (like banning incandescent bulbs) rarely provides the intended effect. Instead, they usually make things worse in some way or another that can then only be solved by....wait for it...more government regulation.

In this case, they really need to stick it to these manufacturers by forcing them to provide warrantees that cover their "lifetime" of use. That of course would probably bankrupt a few of them...resulting in more regulations, bailouts, etc. Eventually in another 20 years the market will hopefully have matured such that we can buy lightbulbs that last longer than a year again.

Meanwhile...I still have a couple of incandescent bulbs that came with my house when I bought it that STILL work today...25 years later.
Drewmeister
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Somewhere on the box (usually in fine print, unfortunately) it should say either "not for use in totally enclosed luminaires" or "can be used in totally enclosed luminaires". (This was true of CFLs also; most of those were not rated for enclosed fixtures, but they seemed more tolerant of it than the LEDs not rated for it.)

The bulbs rated for enclosed fixtures just last longer in general. In addition to better heat tolerance they usually have more LEDs for the same total light output, so each one isn't driven as hard. Sometimes they're marketed as "double" or "extended" life. IMO it's worth paying a little more for these.

With one exception (a box of Ecosmart from Home Depot), I haven't had any bulbs rated for enclosed fixtures fail on me yet! I've had plenty of failures of various brands of bulbs not rated for enclosed operation. I won't be buying any more Ecosmart, but to be fair, they warrantied them right in the store and the replacements have been good for several years.
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