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Hey all,

Looking to replace all my windows and getting some bids now. It's a 25 year old home, standard suburban dark red brick with the original builder grade single panes. 3k-ish square feet, two-story. Think it's like 40 windows...some of the larger windows count as three (or even 4 I guess if they have the arch part). Main reason is current windows offer basically no thermal protection, secondary bedrooms get really cold and seems like the heater can't even keep up sometimes. Also the lack of sound-suppression is also a factor.

1) Thoughts on grids? Checked and looks like my HOA doesn't care. Think I will skip them in the back for the sake of the view (pool, greenbelt) and slightly lower cost, but not sure about the front of the home. I read grids look good on older traditional homes, grid-less on modern or craftsman homes. But what about your standard boring suburban brick tract home? Not sure if that is considered modern. I am leaning towards keeping them. I don't clean my own windows so don't really care about that factor.

2) My first bid was with what is considered a high-quality window outfit. I am thinking about laminated glass in our bedroom (5-6 windows) to help suppress sound, and standard double-pane vinyl elsewhere. Their bid came in pushing 55k(!). I used them on my last house for a partial job 10 years ago with good results...they were expensive then but not that bad.

I received a bid on a value company, and it was around 22k.

-Both companies either make their own windows or are the sole distributor of some manufacturer I've never heard of.

-Both in-source their installers and it's the same team that always services the area. So not like the cheap company swings by a Home Depot parking lot the day of install.

-The stats look similar, both are 1/8 in lites and half-inch spacing. Both have lifetime warranties, although think the expensive outfit is the only one that would transfer to a new owner. But I don't think we plan to move within the next 20 years.

-Both companies have good reviews online (expensive one IS better but the value is still good reviews overall), A+ BBB ratings.

Is there any real reason to consider the higher bid that I am missing? Or to avoid value companies in general? It isn't Window World, which I've seen mixed reviews.

3) Anything else I should be asking during the bid process? I have one more planned, which I think is sort of in the middle of the first two.

Thanks!

Aggiewes
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No comments here on the vendor choice. However, we are doing glass replacement (not new windows) across the front of the house and went with no grids (3 vendors told us glass replacement was all we needed). Our home is 20 years old and sounds similar in style. No grids is a huge improvement IMO and the comments from the neighbors seem to validate that. Also - glass is now coated in an E366 or something like that material to decrease UV light into the house.

Good luck!

Aggiewes '87
SJEAg
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Thanks! Yeah I need to drive around and find some examples. I think no grids would look better, but scared it will look weird and regret not going with what I am used to with grids.
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Undivided light is the way to go! Looks more sleek and clean from the outside (inside typically has blinds so the aesthetic from inside is unchanged). However, if have land an no one around, would not need blinds, and looking out undivided light would provide better viewing perspective
RC_57
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While we're somewhat on the subject, which is preferred, aluminum or vinyl?
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We recently replaced all of ours, no grids, vynal.

Get ready for the wait time: for us it was 4 months. They mis-measured one window so it was ordered that day, 6 month wait and it should be installed tomorrow.

The sound difference is one of the amazing effects we did not expect. It's just flat crazy how much quieter our house is now.
Dashsam
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I too need replacement windows . I see Renewal by Anderson commercials but I believe they are in Houston . Do they in fact install windows here in the Brazos valley ?
SJEAg
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Yeah, wait times bad. Value company actually said 12-14 weeks vs the 5 mos of the more expensive one. Leaning towards no grids, just need to go find a similar house to alleviate fears - will be driving around local neighborhoods this weekend!
Aggiewes
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Where are you located OP?
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My only observation on some large front windows that aren't divided... you can see the warp of the glass via reflections. I do not know if that is just poorly formed glass, if it is too thin, or just normal.
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Sugar Land
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SJEAg said:

Sugar Land
I am in Fort Worth. Was going to suggest a drive by and you could see what is on our street. We have no grids and neighbors have grids. Easy decision based on your own thoughts.
Southlake Ag
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Aggiewes said:

SJEAg said:

Sugar Land
I am in Fort Worth. Was going to suggest a drive by and you could see what is on our street. We have no grids and neighbors have grids. Easy decision based on your own thoughts.
We are going to replace our windows. What neighborhood in Fort Worth?
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RC_57 said:

While we're somewhat on the subject, which is preferred, aluminum or vinyl?
I just signed a contract on some windows and considered this for a long time. Vinyl is supposedly more energy efficient; aluminum actually transmits heat (though you could get thermal breaks for additional costs). Vinyl is supposedly less maintenance. aluminum frames can potentially chip/crack over time.

Aluminum windows have thinner frames, more glass, "look better"(?) and the sales guys trying to sell them to me pushed they'd "last longer" and told me all about how vinyl windows "could" fail "because plastic". In addition to the objective information I could find online and glean from the 5-6 window companies I had come out to quote, the couple of guys who pushed for aluminum windows really seemed like they had to push and downplay vinyl windows. Just my impression.

Quite frankly the only benefit I could find to aluminum is just if you liked the way it looked better, which if that's the case I say more power to you. Budget was certainly a factor in my recent decision and there was no way to justify the significant additional cost for aluminum.

Also, no grids for me, I've got grids on my house currently and I'm ready for them to go. As someone already mentioned, drive the neighborhood and see what you like. 14-week lead time as well, hope to have them in by Late April - Early May.
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As mentioned, drive around and look at windows, and not just in your neighborhood. You'll find lots of different things and you can figure out what you really like.

I would definitely go no grid (And I did). They tend to make the house look busy to me. I haven't seen a house that skipped them that looked worse than before.

I would also consider frame colors other than white. You can really change the aesthetic of the exterior. That doesn't mean just black frames (which do often look good). But changing to something other than white can really set your house apart and look really sharp.
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Thank you very much for the reply
SJEAg
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Thanks all - still on the fence. Although think you all are slowly convincing me to go no grid.

This isn't my house, but one I found in a nearby neighborhood that has a sort of similar elevation and went no grid. Think my biggest concern is the large arch and square window above the front door. Can't decide if its too much plain glass. I'd say 95% of the brick homes with new windows (new being relative, basically anything that looks low-E and not builder-grade) have grids in front.




Another question - thoughts on just doing picture windows for the windows in the back? Like in the living room (2 story open to the ceiling) and the master bedroom bay windows looking out to our pool? Seems cleaner...and does anyone ever open their windows in Houston? I know I don't. Not sure if the bedroom might break a fire code or something...especially since it will be laminated and probably tough to break. But the living room is also where our back door is.
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You can design the windows to work however you want... A quick online search showed this house update of a similar situation to break up those lines.




You will have to have egress windows in the bedrooms, but you could look into casement windows as another options for the clean lines.

After getting new windows, I find we open them a whole lot more. but I could see getting picture windwos as a nice options for sure.

We have triple wide windows in living and master. Went with side sliding picture window in those. Big center picture window with the side panels that slide over and the look really sharp.
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We were going to do picture windows on several areas of the house, including the back looking out over the pool and backyard but they were too close to the ground and caused some issues with code. There were workarounds but all added to the budget.

I like the idea of picture windows though. Our original thinking was along the same lines as yours.
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Southlake Ag said:

Aggiewes said:

SJEAg said:

Sugar Land
I am in Fort Worth. Was going to suggest a drive by and you could see what is on our street. We have no grids and neighbors have grids. Easy decision based on your own thoughts.
We are going to replace our windows. What neighborhood in Fort Worth?
Heritage near Alliance town center.
Southlake Ag
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Aggiewes said:

Southlake Ag said:

Aggiewes said:

SJEAg said:

Sugar Land
I am in Fort Worth. Was going to suggest a drive by and you could see what is on our street. We have no grids and neighbors have grids. Easy decision based on your own thoughts.
We are going to replace our windows. What neighborhood in Fort Worth?
Heritage near Alliance town center.
Thanks
double b
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For those who replaced their windows, did you notice any difference in your utility bills?
Whoop Delecto
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My June kWH use was 15% higher over last year with the same windows. May be hard to get accurate data.
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