PSA: Flaw in Home Depot's online ordering system

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Ryan the Temp
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If any of you are like me and use Home Depot's online ordering to get stores to pull items for you to save time or make things more convenient, you need to know about a flaw in their system that cancels orders when you use gift cards.

When you place an order, the order gets broken up into sub-orders if part of the order is pulled from stock, part is shipped, and if any part is being picked up at a different store. When you use gift cards, their system applies all sub-orders against the gift card separately, which can result in the payment being declined. A declined payment causes the entire order to be canceled.

For example, I placed an order for about $2,100 in merchandise. $442 was being shipped, $530 was being picked up at one store and the rest was being picked up at another store. I paid using $2,000 in gift cards and the remainder with my credit card. The two groups that were being picked up in the store were both applied toward the first $500 gift card, which created an available funds conflict. As a result, all of those items were canceled.

In addition to the gift card problem, if you order items for pickup in the store and there is any item that is out of stock or insufficient stock (even if the online system says there is enough inventory), that will also result in cancellation of the ENTIRE order.
dubi
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Josepi
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How do you have $2,000 in gift cards? Do I need new friends?
Ryan the Temp
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How do you have $2,000 in gift cards? Do I need new friends?
I use gift cards so I get fuel points.
MrJonMan
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Another flaw.....

I placed an online order a week ago, estimated delivery of the 17th. Online it just says "being processed". After numerous phone calls, the final information I was given is, it was shipped on Monday, but they have not record of who they used (UPS, FedEx) so they can't provide any tracking. Takes 3-5 days so should be here by Saturday.

Wouldn't be a huge deal if it was causing a delay in our complete kitchen remodel
spanky
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Gift cards can also be bought at say .90 on the dollar on ebay to save an additional 10%
aggiepaintrain
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if you try to return any of it, I bet they won't. Because of a split payment.

HD sucks!!!!
Ryan the Temp
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You can't make this **** up.

I managed to get everything I needed except one particular type of light fixture for the garage. That item is available in-store only and was on the two orders that got canceled. My regular store only had one or two listed in inventory and I needed five.

I'm experienced enough to know "one or two on hand" means "zero," so we checked stock at another store. The next closest store had 11 on hand so I drove over there. The employee couldn't find them and didn't want to look for them, so she sent me on my way. I went online and placed a third order for that item to force them to find it.

I got a call at 8:30 this morning telling me the order was being canceled because they don't have any in stock. Another store had seven showing in stock, but when I called they couldn't find them. The manager at my regular store contacted me to tell me the Gulfgate store had 23 in stock.

"With 23 in stock, there's no way they won't see it." he said.

Want to bet? I called Gulfgate about the item and they confirmed they showed 23 on hand, but they were nowhere to be found.

I pulled up HomeDepot.com to check inventory at other stores and to my amazement, sometime between 10:00 last night and 11:00 this morning all quantities of that item at EVERY store in the Houston area were zeroed out. That change has the effect of preventing any customer from attempting to order the item online.

I find it fascinating that dozens of pieces of inventory of the same item are nowhere to be found at four or more stores, but at least someone at Home Depot has paid enough attention to disable the item online. Unfortunately, it doesn't get me the lights I need and the only thing they have comparable in stock is more than twice the price.

It's just bizarre.

The Collective
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Ha. Either your inquiry created a cycle count or the item happened to come up for count in the whole region. Funny.
Ulrich
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Since I bought a house, one issue I've noticed with Home Depot both online and in-store is that it keeps taking all my money.

And also all the BS about them never being able to find stuff their systems say is in stock and having to make 19 trips to complete an order.
Whitetail
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Their inventory system is screwed up. I bought an item online and went to pick it up only to wait for them to search the store for the item and for them to come up empty. Then I went another store with plenty of stock, but them to be out there too. Really quite maddening.
histag10
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I only use Lowes after some idiot decides to sell my special order item to someone else. Which, by the way, super fun.

Special ordered a base cabinet for something. Get a call that it's in, so I drive 3 hours to pick it up. When I get there, the manager can't find it. Finally an employee tells him that a customer was looking for something similar, and the employee saw this, and gave it to them.

Not the end. This item was already paid for, and had an invoice taped to the side with my name on it. The person at the register saw the invoice, told the customer to have a good day.

tl;dr Home Depot gave my special order item that was paid for to another customer for free. I drove 3 hours both ways for nothing. No discount on the reorder.
Ryan the Temp
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Their inventory system is screwed up. I bought an item online and went to pick it up only to wait for them to search the store for the item and for them to come up empty. Then I went another store with plenty of stock, but them to be out there too. Really quite maddening.
The manager found out what the problem was. The product was recalled by the manufacturer and HD never zeroed out the inventory when stores sent it back.
wrkrbee1650
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I know the OP is old, but it seems it needs to be said because the issue still exists to this day, so it is obvious the process is flawed.

HD's order system and backend inventory systems are several separate systems. So picking an order involves several pieces of software. I.E., you place a buy online pay in store (BOPIS), it will automatically place the order at the store you choose whether or not the inventory system or ESS system says they are in stock. Delivery, same thing. Delivery has a delivery window, so it will allow you to place the order as well, but in fact, never order the inventory, or automatically generate a process to pull it from another store. That takes human action -- from a manager or above. If anyone involved in updating / correcting these many software systems drops the ball, the inventory is off.

Additionally, HD does receiving by weight. They don't count each item that comes out of the truck. So if the truck says it has XYZ number of things on it, and the weight on the BOL matches, they assume it's there. Unpack it and stack it.

An order puller pulls the order from the cue utilizing Order Fullfillment software on a multifunctional Android device. It has several apps which have to be used for orders. The main three are Order Fufillment (which order pickers work from), Overhead Management (used to check storage areas, and many times not accurate), SKU Depot (to look up location of a particular item, next order, availability other stores, etc.).

So an order picker is supposed to pop into an order in the order in which it was received, go and check the area(s) they are directed to by the order pulling system (OrderUp) and pull the order. That is their only job. It is not their job to get a ladder, electric lift, or a reach to grab stuff from overhead storage. However, here is what typically happens:

  • Over night workers are supposed to drop pallets and replenish stock, and adjust overhead inventory using Overhead Inventory software based upon the person's list entered into the queue by teh person in charge of the isle.
  • Often, both overnight either doesn't get a pull order, or they ignore it because there is no one watching them or they never received a pick order from the person(s) in charge of the isle who did not enter the order to pull.
  • Order pullers often end up packing out product because someone in the above scenario dropped the ball.
  • When order pickers have to pull an order, they have to go on an easter egg hung to find the appropriate equipment, personnel, etc, to do it. Meanwhile the clock is ticking.
  • Order pickers are told they can do a partial pull for what may be immediately located, and work on the rest as time permits. This often extends past the two hour or delivery window. But managers don't like this. They prefer us to just cancel individual line items so the store / department doesn'get a performance ding.
  • Order pickers who not lazy or pissed at the overnight workers and/or person in charge of the isle who are repeated offenders of not doing their job, will go the extra mile.
  • Order pickers will check for the SKU number on boxes located immediately in the area. If they still don't find it, they are supposed to check in another piece of software for the SKU called Overhead Management.
  • If they do find the skus on boxes, they can pull time, equipment, and necessary personnel permitting
  • However, managers are very focused on performance numbers and encourage order pickers to simply pull what they can, call the customer and advise the line item is being cancelled as out of stock, or the order is changed to a will call if inventory is on order for a particular item in order to avoid a negative mark.
  • To cancel a line item, the order picker has to go into OrderUp, cancel the line item, and when doing so are instructed to enter the reason for cancellation "Customer Satisfaction" so once again there is no ding to the store. We then have to go find the person who is in charge of that isle (or first phone for the day) tell them inventory is off, and ask them to zero it out in the ESS system, so it will finally cancel the line item in the order, and then clear the BOPIS or online order as completed and/or picked.
  • IMO, this isn't right. It isn't holding anyone in the chain of the process accountable for not doing their job right. It also encourages order pickers to be lazy. There is no where in the Order Fullfillment software to enter notes, so often an order is attempting to be picked by multiple people one after another over several days unless the order picker takes the time to jump through the hoops.

This isn't even mentioning the hiccups which occur after standard store resets, or when seasonal items are moved around. If those doing the moving around do not update the software to include the new location, we can walk around the store all day trying to locate the skus 3 - 4 tiers up with no resolve. My first day order picking, we walked around for 2 hours trying locate a pallet of Air Conditioners which may or may not have made it to the store.

Sometimes, in the Order Fullfillment software, we get orders for products that have no picture, no description (only a SKU), and location are "No Home.". How do you figure out what and where that is?
P.H. Dexippus
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I'd just be happy if the generator that I ordered for ship to the house, and which the freight contractor NSD shows as "out for delivery" since Wednesday, would actually be delivered. My guess is it was "lost" by the crew.
mosdefn14
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My biggest beef is when the order picker doesn't care/doesn't know the store, so marks an item as out of stock. Then, I go to buy it in person and it's in 3 or 4 different places, but not the place the system says it should be in. Why do I know where items are better than the store associate?
htxag09
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Not Home Depot, but we're doing a kitchen remodel and I bought a zephyr hood insert from Best Buy. Everyone else is back ordered, but Best Buy said it was in stock. I ordered online and went to check out. In store pickup changed at the checkout to December. Wth. Changed to delivery, 2 days. Was kind of assuming it was a glitch and I wouldn't get the hood insert. But paid and it arrived Friday. Not sure why I couldn't pick it up for 3 months but they could deliver in two days….
agracer
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It's still in a shipment box buried behind some other stuff up high on one of the shelves and no one wants to look for it.

This happened to me once but I lucked into finding an employee who was actually willing to look and he found the box up high behind another box and opened it a sure enough the "6 in stock" items were in there.
planoaggie123
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htxag09 said:

Not Home Depot, but we're doing a kitchen remodel and I bought a zephyr hood insert from Best Buy. Everyone else is back ordered, but Best Buy said it was in stock. I ordered online and went to check out. In store pickup changed at the checkout to December. Wth. Changed to delivery, 2 days. Was kind of assuming it was a glitch and I wouldn't get the hood insert. But paid and it arrived Friday. Not sure why I couldn't pick it up for 3 months but they could deliver in two days….

which hood did you select?

we were between Faber and Zephyr and went Zephyr....not sure on timing b/c our fridge is out till May 2022 and the dishwasher might even be further out...
htxag09
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planoaggie123 said:

htxag09 said:

Not Home Depot, but we're doing a kitchen remodel and I bought a zephyr hood insert from Best Buy. Everyone else is back ordered, but Best Buy said it was in stock. I ordered online and went to check out. In store pickup changed at the checkout to December. Wth. Changed to delivery, 2 days. Was kind of assuming it was a glitch and I wouldn't get the hood insert. But paid and it arrived Friday. Not sure why I couldn't pick it up for 3 months but they could deliver in two days….

which hood did you select?

we were between Faber and Zephyr and went Zephyr....not sure on timing b/c our fridge is out till May 2022 and the dishwasher might even be further out...
Zephyr Monsoon Connect I (for 36" range) - it was in stock at Best Buy; the Monsoon I was in stock at Home Depot
planoaggie123
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Fancier than ours. We are doing the Tempest 1 under cabinet / wall mount with recirculating kit. working the downdraft setup became a huge pain and costly....we don't cook much so going this route (def not worth running new duct outside through walls, etc) and if we ever sold the downdraft is there should someone want to go that route...
htxag09
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Is it fancier? I thought they were pretty similar, just the monsoon was an insert and the tempest is under cabinet so sticks out the front?
planoaggie123
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htxag09 said:

Is it fancier? I thought they were pretty similar, just the monsoon was an insert and the tempest is under cabinet so sticks out the front?

I looked at the Monsoon connect....not the Monsoon 1....
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