Matsuyama won shooting 35 under. Morikawa came in second at 32 under. 24 players shot 20 under or better. That is insane. I'm not sure I've ever seen a winning score like that before.
Doesn't it play like 7,600 yards? Not exactly short.AgLA06 said:
Short, easy course with favorable topography. Only defense is the wind and being dry (roll out into trouble). It rained right before it started and winds were unusually non-existent.
Video game like scores.
It was enjoyable to watch.
But the sentry (as the not-cut, season opening tournament with a smaller field) doesn't want scores that low. Every week doesn't have to be the US Open.Aggie95 said:
widest fairways on tour, no wind, and massive elevation change that allows for a hole to have an AVERAGE tee shot of over 400 yards....they'll keep breaking records out there.
Not sure why they are still lengthening courses when the obvious answer is bring things in. If you want 8 under to be the winning score...make the fairways tighter, grow the rough, and defend the greens with bunkers or slopes that reject missed shots.
Or instead of *******izing courses... just roll back the technology on balls and take away the 460cc driver heads.Aggie95 said:
widest fairways on tour, no wind, and massive elevation change that allows for a hole to have an AVERAGE tee shot of over 400 yards....they'll keep breaking records out there.
Not sure why they are still lengthening courses when the obvious answer is bring things in. If you want 8 under to be the winning score...make the fairways tighter, grow the rough, and defend the greens with bunkers or slopes that reject missed shots.
agreed, just talking the tour in general. Outside of the majors, the winning scores are pretty absurd.The Milkman said:Or instead of *******izing courses... just roll back the technology on balls and take away the 460cc driver heads.Aggie95 said:
widest fairways on tour, no wind, and massive elevation change that allows for a hole to have an AVERAGE tee shot of over 400 yards....they'll keep breaking records out there.
Not sure why they are still lengthening courses when the obvious answer is bring things in. If you want 8 under to be the winning score...make the fairways tighter, grow the rough, and defend the greens with bunkers or slopes that reject missed shots.
That being said... Kap is a resort course. Its not supposed to be hard.
Aggie369 said:
Lol, yes 7600 yards
AgLA06 said:
Short, easy course with favorable topography. Only defense is the wind and being dry (roll out into trouble). It rained right before it started and winds were unusually non-existent.
Video game like scores.
It was enjoyable to watch.
It's 7600 yards but plays more like 6700 due to elevation and slopes. It had the longest par 4 in PGA history (538 yards of something) and the tee shot average for the week was like 411 yards. There are a lot of holes if you hit the right shot you can some crazy roll out. Even Rolf was like if you're an amateur and want to hit a drive 300 come out to Kapalua.Buck Compton said:Doesn't it play like 7,600 yards? Not exactly short.AgLA06 said:
Short, easy course with favorable topography. Only defense is the wind and being dry (roll out into trouble). It rained right before it started and winds were unusually non-existent.
Video game like scores.
It was enjoyable to watch.
There just isn't much fairway trouble with simple greens and if the wind isn't blowing hard, these guys tear it up. Kapalua is always gettable for them. But it isn't short.
This is the easiest way to slow down scores. Stop raking bunkers. Hell, players aim for bunkers as a miss because the majority of the time you get a good lie.Mr.Bond said:
Make the rough 6+ inches and make hazards (bunkers) actual hazards again