Looks like a great forecast that will create some crispy conditions out there and give these guys a proper test.

In 2014, Pinehurst held up VERY well. Kaymer played out of his mind but only three folks were under par for the tournament.

Here are the odds I just pulled from Draft Kings.

• Player Name | Win | Top 5 | Top 10

• Scottie Scheffler | +320 | -120 | -250
• Rory McIlroy | +1000 | +240 | +120
• Xander Schauffele | +1200 | +260 | +130
• Collin Morikawa | +1400 | +320 | +150
• Viktor Hovland | +1600 | +360 | +180
• Bryson DeChambeau | +1800 | +360 | +190
• Ludvig Aberg | +2000 | +400 | +210
• Brooks Koepka | +2200 | +450 | +210
• Jon Rahm | +2800 | +550 | +260
• Tommy Fleetwood | +3500 | +700 | +300
• Matt Fitzpatrick | +4000 | +850 | +360
• Justin Thomas | +4000 | +850 | +360
• Cameron Smith | +4000 | +800 | +360
• Hideki Matsuyama | +4500 | +850 | +360
• Patrick Cantlay | +5000 | +900 | +400
• Max Homa | +5000 | +900 | +400
• Tyrrell Hatton | +5500 | +1000 | +450
• Shane Lowry | +5500 | +1100 | +450
• Sahith Theegala | +5500 | +1100 | +450
• Tony Finau | +6000 | +1100 | +500
• Tom Kim | +6000 | +1100 | +450
• Wyndham Clark | +6500 | +1200 | +550
• Sam Burns | +6500 | +1200 | +550
• Min Woo Lee | +6500 | +1200 | +500
• Jordan Spieth | +6500 | +1200 | +500
• Sepp Straka | +7000 | +1200 | +550
• Corey Conners | +7000 | +1200 | +550
• Sungjae Im | +7500 | +1400 | +550
• Keegan Bradley | +7500 | +1400 | +600
• Russell Henley | +8000 | +1400 | +550
• Dustin Johnson | +8000 | +1400 | +600
• Cameron Young | +8000 | +1400 | +650
• Will Zalatoris | +8000 | +1400 | +650
• Robert MacIntyre | +8000 | +1400 | +600
• Jason Day | +9000 | +1600 | +700
• Byeong Hun An | +9000 | +1800 | +700
• Si Woo Kim | +10000 | +1800 | +750
• Dean Burmester | +10000 | +1800 | +750
• Alex Noren | +10000 | +1800 | +750
• Christiaan Bezuidenhout | +11000 | +1800 | +750
• Justin Rose | +13000 | +2200 | +850
• Denny McCarthy | +13000 | +2200 | +850
• Brian Harman | +13000 | +2200 | +900
• Billy Horschel | +13000 | +2500 | +900
• Adam Scott | +13000 | +2200 | +900
• Sergio Garcia | +15000 | +2800 | +1100
• Ryan Fox | +15000 | +2800 | +1100
• Harris English | +15000 | +2500 | +1000
• Adam Hadwin | +15000 | +2500 | +1000
• Tom Hoge | +18000 | +3000 | +1200
• Mackenzie Hughes | +18000 | +3000 | +1200
• Aaron Rai | +18000 | +2800 | +1000
• Austin Eckroat | +18000 | +3000 | +1100
• Victor Perez | +18000 | +3500 | +1200
• Thomas Detry | +18000 | +3000 | +1200
• Akshay Bhatia | +18000 | +3000 | +1200
• Rickie Fowler | +20000 | +3500 | +1200
• Kurt Kitayama | +20000 | +3500 | +1200
• J.T. Poston | +20000 | +3500 | +1200
• Nicolai Hojgaard | +20000 | +3500 | +1400
• Erik Van Rooyen | +20000 | +3500 | +1400
• Stephan Jaeger | +25000 | +3500 | +1400
• Nick Dunlap | +25000 | +4000 | +1600
• Lucas Glover | +25000 | +3500 | +1400
• Adrian Meronk | +25000 | +3500 | +1400
• Tiger Woods | +30000 | +4500 | +1600
• Taylor Moore | +30000 | +4500 | +1600
• Seamus Power | +30000 | +5000 | +1800
• Eric Cole | +30000 | +4500 | +1600
• Daniel Berger | +30000 | +5000 | +1800
• Chris Kirk | +30000 | +5000 | +1800
• Cam Davis | +30000 | +4500 | +1600
• Tom McKibbin | +30000 | +5000 | +1800
• Taylor Pendrith | +30000 | +4500 | +1600
• Martin Kaymer | +30000 | +5000 | +1800
• Beau Hossler | +30000 | +5000 | +1800
• Phil Mickelson | +35000 | +5500 | +2000
• Webb Simpson | +35000 | +6000 | +2000
• Matthieu Pavon | +35000 | +5500 | +2000
• Mark Hubbard | +35000 | +6000 | +2000
• Jake Knapp | +35000 | +6000 | +2200
• Davis Thompson | +35000 | +5500 | +2000
• David Puig | +35000 | +5500 | +2000
• Nick Taylor | +40000 | +6500 | +2200
• Matt Kuchar | +40000 | +7000 | +2200
• Gary Woodland | +40000 | +7000 | +2500
• Emiliano Grillo | +40000 | +6500 | +2200
• Tim Widing | +40000 | +7500 | +2500
• S.H. Kim | +40000 | +7000 | +2500
• Richard Mansell | +40000 | +6500 | +2200
• Harry Higgs | +40000 | +6000 | +2200
• Chesson Hadley | +40000 | +7000 | +2200
• Brendon Todd | +40000 | +6500 | +2200
• Adam Svensson | +40000 | +6000 | +2200
• Adam Schenk | +40000 | +6000 | +2200
• Mac Meissner | +40000 | +7500 | +2500
• Greyson Sigg | +40000 | +6500 | +2200
• Takumi Kanaya | +50000 | +8000 | +2500
• Matteo Manassero | +50000 | +7500 | +2500
• Justin Lower | +50000 | +8000 | +2800
• Peter Malnati | +60000 | +9000 | +3000
• Ryo Ishikawa | +80000 | +11000 | +3500
• Rikuya Hoshino | +80000 | +13000 | +4000
• Max Greyserman | +80000 | +13000 | +4000
• Frankie Capan III | +80000 | +13000 | +4000
• Brandon Wu | +80000 | +13000 | +4500
• Ben Kohles | +80000 | +11000 | +3500
• Zac Blair | +100000 | +15000 | +5000
• Sam Bennett | +100000 | +15000 | +4500
• Sam Bairstow | +100000 | +20000 | +6000
• Rico Hoey | +100000 | +20000 | +6000
• Isaiah Salinda | +100000 | +18000 | +5500
• Gordon Sargent | +100000 | +15000 | +5000
• Brian Campbell | +100000 | +15000 | +5000
• Benjamin James | +100000 | +18000 | +6000
• Francesco Molinari | +150000 | +25000 | +6500
• Nico Echavarria | +150000 | +25000 | +7500
• Grant Forrest | +150000 | +25000 | +7000
• Luke Clanton | +150000 | +25000 | +7500
• Maxwell Moldovan | +150000 | +25000 | +7000
• Brendan Valdes | +150000 | +25000 | +6500
• Eugenio Chacarra | +200000 | +30000 | +8000
• Carter Jenkins | +200000 | +30000 | +9000
• Willie Mack III | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Taisei Shimizu | +250000 | +40000 | +13000
• Sung Kang | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Santiago De la Fuente | +250000 | +40000 | +13000
• Robert Rock | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Riki Kawamoto | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Omar Morales | +250000 | +40000 | +20000
• Neal Shipley | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Logan McAllister | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• John Chin | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Jim Herman | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Jason Scrivener | +250000 | +35000 | +10000
• Frederik Kjettrup | +250000 | +40000 | +11000
• Christopher Petefish | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Chris Naegel | +250000 | +40000 | +13000
• Casey Jarvis | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Brandon Robinson Thompson | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Ashton McCulloch | +250000 | +40000 | +20000
• Andrew Svoboda | +250000 | +40000 | +13000
• Joey Vrzich | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Hiroshi Tai | +250000 | +40000 | +11000
• Bryan Kim | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Wells Williams | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Colin Prater | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Jackson Buchanan | +250000 | +40000 | +11000
• Gunnar Broin | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Charles Reiter | +250000 | +40000 | +15000
• Parker Bell | +250000 | +40000 | +18000
• Edoardo Molinari | +250000 | +40000 | +13000
• Carson Schaake | +500000 | +40000 | +25000
• Michael McGowan | +500000 | +40000 | +25000
• Otto Black | +500000 | +40000 | +25000

See ya kids on 18 tee box!

Interested to see this one play out. Really wonder who's going to be in the mix (besides Scottie).

Should be a fun tournament on a good golf course.

Kaymer kinda ruined the last one so I didn't take in much of that tournament. Looking forward to taking in the course a little more this time.

Aside from Scottie, seems like Matsuyama and Morikawa may be good picks? Both highly ranked in approach and around the greens. Putters are worrisome though.

Bryson will probably be in the mix too I'd imagine.

Morikawa definitely looks strong and is having a great year. Maybe Cam Smith for a LIV guy. This looks like a course he would do well on.

I like the odds of Adam Hadwin top 10 at +1000. Just finished third and has one top 10 in the US Open.

DeChambeau 6th at the Masters and 2nd at the PGA. We'll see if he can continue his quality in the majors.

Rahm had a cut in between his toes that forced him to WD this past weekend and he hasn't been in amazing form.

Morikawa looks real good right now.

Not much to add but normally I'm not a big fan of us opens because of the courses the last few years. Basically eliminated anyone who doesn't bomb it before it begins. I think #2 will do a good job of allowing different types of players contend. Short game is gunna be huge this week

Scheffler to win until proven otherwise.

I like these guys chances if not Scottie:

Morikawa - lights out recently, just hasn't had a hot putter. Style of game is perfect for Pinehurst and US Open setup.

Dechambeau - love him or hate him but the guy has been stellar in the two majors this season and is captivating to watch. Pinehurst is all about the second shot so for him it will be about distance control and spin. If he can dial that in watch out but I think his great major play this year ends on Friday.

Straka - has been sneaky good this year without winning on the PGA yet. Not sure his odds but I think a T10 is looking good.

Fleetwood - guy can't score on Saturdays and has habit or backdooring major top 10s. Hasn't been playing great lately but I have a hunch he could be in one of the final groups Sunday at Pinehurst.

One of the greatest courses in the world. Can't wait to see how this gets setup and played by the field. Hopefully zero rain.

https://www.usopen.com/2024/tee-times.html
Tues/Wed practice round times. Think I'll try and get some Homa/Woods tomorrow

Rounds 1/2 posted.

Tiger 7:40am on 10
JT/Morikawa/Koepka go off 7:40 on 1


BCD/Viktor/Homa paired together as well as Spieth/Hideki/Rahm.

Scotter, Rory, Xander in the premiere afternoon group go off at 1:14

guess i am getting there early Thursday

Bryson, Homa, Hovland, made for TV telecast

Sam starts on back 9 at 8:24 central thursdsy

Hopefully he's not paired up with Harman!

packing A&M Peter shirt in case Sam is in the running on Saturday!

Jon Rahm is on site at Pinehurst. He's also got a new driver shaft, swapping from Aldila Tour Green to Fujikura Ventus Black 7x.

He was having trouble with the Aldila this year after an off-season strength and speed increase. pic.twitter.com/rg6uCUHUox

— Tee Times (@TeeTimesPub) June 11, 2024

Interesting. Wonder if that was contributing to some of the up and down play. We'll see if the equipment change helps.

I think his issue is more like what has happened with other LIV members like DJ. They are set financially and have other priorities keeping them from putting in the time and effort needed to stay at the top of the game. There are exceptions like Brooks and Bryson but LIV doesn't seem to bring out the best of a lot of members.

LIV participants in majors have finished pretty darn well overall the last 2 seasons given how few of them there are vs the rest of the field. Not sure I'm buying that.

For guys like Poulter and McDowell sure. Don't know that's the case with DJ yet and there's no way I'm buying it with Rahm. He's the ultimate competitor.

Spent a couple hours last night watching YouTube videos on the setup and holes. Played #2 this past October and absolutely loved the track. It is so difficult. Felt like I played ok that day and still shot 98 with what seemed like 50 putts. Only made one par on #6, which was interesting because it played as the toughest hole in the 2014 open. Hit a great 5 hybrid into that green and almost made the birdie putt.

Other spots I distinctly remember were the 5th green, where I actually putted out of the right greenside bunker. Hit it right where I wanted and it still rolled off the opposite side down into the collection area.

The 4th hold is absolutely diabolical with the way the fairway slopes left to right and then you have to hit a shot against that slope into a green back to the left.

The 8th green was the most intimidating to me. Seem to recall it being the most "turtle" like. And we played that as a par 5, but its a 4 for the Open.

If you get your ball right on 11 its really bad.

People rave about 11-14 but I found it to be a little redundant. It will definitely factor in the championship though because that's a tough stretch of par 4's.

16 is another that played as a par 5 for us but will be a big par 4 for the pros.

17 was a great par 3 IMO.

18 was an awesome finishing hole and will be really cool with the buildouts I've seen. I hit that fairway and then hit a great hybrid up the hill only to have it catch the last bit of the wire grass in front and hang up. Proceeded to duff it in front of everyone on the patio.

As an old white dude obsessed with his yard, I loved this video:

Horvat and the Bryan Bros have a couple of videos out playing #2 trying to make the +5 cut line from 2014. Get to see all the course and shots from all over.

It has been underwhelming the results by the LIV guys overall in majors this season as several top players haven't performed well. No Top 5 finish at this year's Masters and only 1 top ten finisher at Vahalla in Bryson. Bryson has played well this year in the majors but guys like Brooks, DJ, Rahm, Neimann, etc haven't played well.

aggiebonzo said:

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Scheffler to win until proven otherwise.

I like these guys chances if not Scottie:

Morikawa - lights out recently, just hasn't had a hot putter. Style of game is perfect for Pinehurst and US Open setup.

Dechambeau - love him or hate him but the guy has been stellar in the two majors this season and is captivating to watch. Pinehurst is all about the second shot so for him it will be about distance control and spin. If he can dial that in watch out but I think his great major play this year ends on Friday.

Straka - has been sneaky good this year without winning on the PGA yet. Not sure his odds but I think a T10 is looking good.

Fleetwood - guy can't score on Saturdays and has habit or backdooring major top 10s. Hasn't been playing great lately but I have a hunch he could be in one of the final groups Sunday at Pinehurst.

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nice list. I have Bryson as my runner up to Scheffler

Everyone is different.

Going to LIV hasn't seemed to impact Brooks or Bryson's play in the majors.

DJ seems to have taken the money and went into coast mode.

Old guys were past their prime and probably coasting a little bit already.

I think Rahm is hyper-competitive and I'm not sure LIV is getting his juices flowing. It's not that he's coasting but LIV doesn't seem to bring out the best in him.

But to get back to the US Open, really hard to go against Scottie at this point. It'll be a mild upset if he's not in the mix on the back 9 Sunday. Brooks usually plays well on tough tracks, so I could see him up there. Also be interesting to see if Xander can keep it going now that he broke the seal.

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DJ seems to have taken the money and went into coast mode.

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I think making that statement is false. It's golf. If JT pr Spieth went to LIV would we be saying the same thing based on how they are playing now? Some guys go into a funk and blaming LIV is dumb.

TXAGGIES said:

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JCA1 said:

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DJ seems to have taken the money and went into coast mode.

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I think making that statement is false. It's golf. If JT pr Spieth went to LIV would we be saying the same thing based on how they are playing now? Some guys go into a funk and blaming LIV is dumb.

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You're free to disagree. But it's not just his play, it's his age, lifestyle and the way he's carried himself the last couple years. Add it all up and it seems like a guy who's checked out. That's why I haven't said the same about others.

IMO it's not just his results. He's made quite a few comments especially in S1 of Full Swing that makes me agree he's on coast mode.

Yeah, DJ saw the end coming, jumped on a great opportunity for a huge bag of money, and seems to be embracing life away from the game.

Brooks and Bryson have held up well. Rahm is a firey guy that maybe needs a little more juice, or maybe he is just in a slump. Interesting timing for one though. Fat Pat is holding up well at the Masters; the rest not so much.

HeyAbbott said:

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It has been underwhelming the results by the LIV guys overall in majors this season as several top players haven't performed well. No Top 5 finish at this year's Masters and only 1 top ten finisher at Vahalla in Bryson. Bryson has played well this year in the majors but guys like Brooks, DJ, Rahm, Neimann, etc haven't played well.

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you also have to remember the number of LIv players in majors is smaller than pga guys. Look at last years major leaderboards. LIV guys were in top 10 all over the place. Also Neumann got special invitation to the masters this year specifically because he was playing so well. There are a handful that still all playing great golf.

I very much expect Cam smith to be in to be in the thick of it this week