**THE PLAYERS 2024**

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JCA1
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1:09p, 3/18/24
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I've never understood how these rules violations are even done. Is there a PGAT hotline you can call if you want to report stuff?

Most of these guys know how to take it right up to the limit and I'm OK with it, as I think that just makes it a level playing field. Also, it would be unfair, as the guys getting the most TV airtime would be playing under a different set of rules than everyone else. Can't have 3 or 4 guys having every shot being endlessly reviewed by millions on a zoomed-in, slo-mo replay, while everyone else is left to police themselves.
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In reply to JCA1 • 1:18p, 3/18/24
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They should never allow call-ins for rules violations.
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In reply to powerbelly • 1:22p, 3/18/24
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powerbelly said:
They should never allow call-ins for rules violations.
I agree, but legit curious. How does that even happen? Who do you call? How does some chucklehead sitting at home watching TV have the number? How many phone operators does the Tour have to field all these calls? None of this has ever made any sense to me.
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In reply to JCA1 • 1:26p, 3/18/24
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I guess there was a number and email address at some point:

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/21738064/golf-fans-no-longer-able-call-possible-rules-violations


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Golf fans will no longer be able to call in or email possible rules violations they witness while watching broadcasts of tournaments on television.

The golf governing bodies announced Monday that beginning Jan. 1, such information will not be considered in administering the rules of golf, according to a joint announcement made by the United States Golf Association and R&A.

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In reply to powerbelly • 1:34p, 3/18/24
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powerbelly said:
I guess there was a number and email address at some point:

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/21738064/golf-fans-no-longer-able-call-possible-rules-violations


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Golf fans will no longer be able to call in or email possible rules violations they witness while watching broadcasts of tournaments on television.

The golf governing bodies announced Monday that beginning Jan. 1, such information will not be considered in administering the rules of golf, according to a joint announcement made by the United States Golf Association and R&A.

Good. The guy signing your card (I believe the playing partner still signs like JPGA) should be the only person other than a rules official to be able to question a penalty.
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3:13p, 3/18/24
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Yeah, they quit taking call-ins a long time ago. For starters, it's not fair in general across the field. Secondly, as HD and DVR technology improved, the ability for someone at home to analyze/over-analyze a situation (like a ball subtly moving) increased dramatically. Just not fair to have everything subject to that level of scrutiny
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In reply to AgLA06 • 3:33p, 3/18/24
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AgLA06 said:
powerbelly said:
I guess there was a number and email address at some point:

https://www.espn.com/golf/story/_/id/21738064/golf-fans-no-longer-able-call-possible-rules-violations


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Golf fans will no longer be able to call in or email possible rules violations they witness while watching broadcasts of tournaments on television.

The golf governing bodies announced Monday that beginning Jan. 1, such information will not be considered in administering the rules of golf, according to a joint announcement made by the United States Golf Association and R&A.

Good. The guy signing your card (I believe the playing partner still signs like JPGA) should be the only person other than a rules official to be able to question a penalty.
I would also get rid of players being DQ'ed for signing an incorrect scorecard. Just seems like a very outdated practice. Clearly, they had some "official" score that they compared Spieth's scorecard to and DQ'ed him for being wrong. If the Tour knows what everyone shot, to the point of DQ'ing guys if their scorecards don't match it, I don't see the point.
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In reply to JCA1 • 4:15p, 3/18/24
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I think it's only for signing a card that's a better score than what you got.

If you sign for a worse score then you get that score.

I think it's a bit outdated, but I kinda like that one of the fundamental things about golf is that players keep their own score. Avoiding the silly mistakes should be pretty straightforward, but in some ways I'd be sad to lose that part of the game.
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In reply to bagger05 • 4:29p, 3/18/24
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bagger05 said:
I think it's only for signing a card that's a better score than what you got.

If you sign for a worse score then you get that score.

I think it's a bit outdated, but I kinda like that one of the fundamental things about golf is that players keep their own score. Avoiding the silly mistakes should be pretty straightforward, but in some ways I'd be sad to lose that part of the game.
Fair points and I also like golf's self-policing aspect (just don't follow me in the woods when I'm looking for my ball). And if they want to add a penalty (say, a stroke or 2) for signing an incorrect scorecard, I would probably be fine with that. But a DQ seems ridiculous in today's PGAT. We know everyone's score instantaneously. The tour is a big business and losing one of your marquee names over his score when literally everyone knows what he shot seems like a dumb own-goal.
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5:08p, 3/18/24
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DJ would be one major closer to a career grand slam if it weren't for a call-in.
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In reply to CCred92 • 8:56p, 3/18/24
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CCred92 said:
What a great tournament.

LIV can't compete with that.


Sure. Outside of the majors, it's the biggest yearly tournament. They won't compete with the Players.
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9:31p, 3/18/24
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Not to be well ackshually guy, but DJ's wasn't a call-in and the penalty cost him from being in a 3-way playoff. 6 years earlier Stuart Appleby took 4 shots worth of penalty strokes for the same thing, so the rule was plastered everywhere in 2010 (DJ's year) and rules officials noticed when he did it because everyone was on alert for it. Well, everyone but DJ.

Dumb setup where all those garbage bunkers should be waste areas
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