Ryan Palmer is WM ready

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The hero gold needs right now

https://www.golfdigest.com/story/wm-phoenix-open-legend-ryan-palmer-to-bring-back-rowdy-beer-balls-tradition/amp

Some Junkie Cosmonaut
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Kansas Kid
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Those balls pretty much guarantee him a sponsors invitation any year he needs one to play in the tournament. Great return on his investment.
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I guess it didn't work. He's not in the field next week.
Kansas Kid
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Seven Costanza said:

I guess it didn't work. He's not in the field next week.

We missed his clarifying tweet right after that. I guess the first one was an attempt to get a sponsor's exemption.



jja79
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If you're going forecast is 40's in the morning and low 60's during the day. They're calling for chances of rain each day but it a little far out for that.
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Palmer and Burgoon are both in the Monday qualifier
Kansas Kid
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_lefraud_ said:

Palmer and Burgoon are both in the Monday qualifier

3 spots and 105 golfers and this was after they had over 600 play in a pre qualifier. This may also be one of the most loaded Monday qualifiers ever. As one site said, this may be as good of field as the KFT has.

Players with number of PGA wins next to their name.
Billy Mayfair, 5
Ryan Palmer, 4
J.J. Henry, 3
Sangmoon Bae, 2
James Hahn, 2
Jonathan Kaye, 2
Tom Pernice, 2
DJ Trahan, 2
Eric Axley, 1
Charlie Beljan, 1
Wesley Bryan, 1
Austin Cook, 1
Robert Garrigus, 1
Patton Kizzire, 1
Ted Purdy, 1
Martin Trainer, 1
Kevin Tway, 1
Bo Van Pelt, 1

Does any other tournament have prequalifier tournaments to get into the Monday qualifier?
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Kansas Kid said:

_lefraud_ said:

Palmer and Burgoon are both in the Monday qualifier

3 spots and 105 golfers and this was after they had over 600 play in a pre qualifier.

Does any other tournament have prequalifier tournaments to get into the Monday qualifier?


All of them do. It's mostly to weed out Ams and low level pros that shoot 90 and have no business being in a real tournament and there are eligibility requirements to skip the pre-qualifier.
Kansas Kid
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Thanks.
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Pre-qualifiers for the Mexico Open Qualifier later this month


Kansas Kid
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Any idea how many play in the typical prequalifiers?
Seven Costanza
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Aside from the random guys that make it through the pre-qualifiers, who does this benefit (the pre-qualifier tournament, not the Monday qualifier)? With 150 players paying $200 to enter, that's $30,000 per tournament. Where is this money going? I'm assuming it is divided between the golf course and NTPGA (in this case), but I have no idea.
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For the Mexico Open coming up, the 3 pre-qual have 120, 96, 96…roughly top 40 and ties make the Monday Qualifier a few days later. Low 4 scores make the PGAT field.

I'm sure all the entry fees just go back into the PGA section that's putting on these tournaments.
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Seven Costanza said:

Aside from the random guys that make it through the pre-qualifiers, who does this benefit (the pre-qualifier tournament, not the Monday qualifier)? With 150 players paying $200 to enter, that's $30,000 per tournament. Where is this money going? I'm assuming it is divided between the golf course and NTPGA (in this case), but I have no idea.

Seems like 100% of the money could easily be used putting on the event. I doubt there's much left over after operational expenses.
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It wouldn't surprise me. It doesn't seem like the effort in organizing and putting on the event would be worth it for anyone involved.
bagger05
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For the courses they get a totally full tee sheet on a random weekday in February. Gotta figure they're getting at least their normal rate per person, right?

Maybe the courses are doing a lot of the leg work.
Kansas Kid
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bagger05 said:

For the courses they get a totally full tee sheet on a random weekday in February. Gotta figure they're getting at least their normal rate per person, right?

Maybe the courses are doing a lot of the leg work.

The course here that frequently hosts a first round qualifier for the US Open gets there normal accompanied guest fee. They donate the carts for the officials.
Seven Costanza
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Googled it and found this site:
https://firepitcollective.com/monday-q-faq-sheet/
Quote:

Who runs the qualifiers?
The PGA of America section in the area of the tournament runs the qualifier, but the Tour has final approval on all things. The Tour decides how many get through each pre-qualifier and gets a big share from the entry fees.
Who gets the money from the entry fees?
The Tour collects around 35 percent. The amount varies depending on the mix of players and the entry fees. Because the Tour doesn't have many (if any) expenses, it can be a good moneymaker.
In most cases the course is paid by the round: anywhere from $50 to $80. It depends on the area the event is being held and the time of the season.
The section gets the rest, but is also responsible for all of its own expenses. It pays for its staff (including travel costs), rules officials, food, etc.
How are courses chosen?
One challenge is finding courses to host events. Monday qualifiers are no different.
When courses were hurting for traffic, finding courses wasn't difficult. A Monday in most parts of the country isn't a popular golf day, and a course could fill up the tee sheet and profit from a Monday Q.
Those times have changed. Most courses have tee sheets that are filled daily, at peak prices, so it's hard to persuade it to close for a day (plus provide practice rounds on Sundays) when it can fill up the sheet with full-paying customers.
That's a long-winded way to say a lot of it now comes down to finding a course that is relatively close to the event and willing to host it. All while meeting the budget at a price point that works for everyone. It's a difficult balance.
jja79
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The 7 unders made it. Palmer was-4.
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