Rahm is supposedly in advanced talks to Join LIV. Rumor is $600 million.
Rahm LIV Rumor
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if he jumped I would not be suprised to see Xander, Cantlay and a couple more follow
LIV has to change their format. Its unwatchable to me. Trash the shotgun starts and team aspect, its dumb
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Mr.Bond said:
LIV has to change their format. Its unwatchable to me. Trash the shotgun starts and team aspect, its dumb
I read Rahm wants some tweaks, which I'd be down for. Shotgun start doesn't bother me since I can watch the entire round of the whole league in one tight 4 hour session if I feel like it, though I would like to see Sunday's final round go to tee times.
A few other tweaks in how the teams are formed/free agency/promotion and relegation. They're on the right path but definitely need a few things changed.
I agree the shotgun start is one of the worst aspects for me. Have never watched an event and don't care but can you imagine a close finish between multiple players and not having to watch them go through 16-18 at TPC Sawgrass to finish because they already played those holes. Just takes away from your suspense for me.
These are my favorite responses.aggiebonzo said:
I agree the shotgun start is one of the worst aspects for me. Have never watched an event and don't care but can you imagine a close finish between multiple players and not having to watch them go through 16-18 at TPC Sawgrass to finish because they already played those holes. Just takes away from your suspense for me.
I've never watched.
I don't care.
But I'm going to tell you why it's horrible.
Read some of the articles on this. He's wanting them to change their format and that's the hold-up reportedly. Whether that's teams, 54 holes, whatever it didn't say.
Willingness to burn money is just amazing.
I seem to recall when this thing was heating up a while back and he was asked about it, he said something along the lines of a huge amount of money wouldn't change his life or quality of life compared to what he had now. If $600M is true, guess he had second thoughts.
600 million will give everyone second thoughts
E said:
600 million will give everyone second thoughts
He could also spend basically June 24 - Aug 10 in Spain/Europe which has to be very appealing to him. He wasn't a huge fan of the requirements to show up at the elevated events in fear of fine along with not being allowed to control his own schedule, specifically to play some events in Spain.
While he couldn't control his own schedule with LIV, schedule they released today for 2024 this year is completely catered to him and Euros by scheduling it this way, and he would get to play Valderrama right in the middle of that run.
Unless something drastically changes the product will still suck. I was a big Cam Smith fan, watched some of the 1st season of LIV and it just was kind of blah. I didn't watch much of the second season at all. They should have stayed on YouTube at least. Maybe I'm in the minority, bringing in the big names only attracts an audience for a little while but the product just wasn't that entertaining for me.
clobby said:
Unless something drastically changes the product will still suck. I was a big Cam Smith fan, watched some of the 1st season of LIV and it just was kind of blah. I didn't watch much of the second season at all. They should have stayed on YouTube at least. Maybe I'm in the minority, bringing in the big names only attracts an audience for a little while but the product just wasn't that entertaining for me.
You were still able to watch them on Youtube last year.
Bunk Moreland said:E said:
600 million will give everyone second thoughts
He could also spend basically June 24 - Aug 10 in Spain/Europe which has to be very appealing to him. He wasn't a huge fan of the requirements to show up at the elevated events in fear of fine along with not being allowed to control his own schedule, specifically to play some events in Spain.
While he couldn't control his own schedule with LIV, schedule they released today for 2024 this year is completely catered to him and Euros by scheduling it this way, and he would get to play Valderrama right in the middle of that run.
The fear of not being allowed to control his schedule is making him sign up for a league where he won't be allowed to control his own schedule?
cb1919 said:Bunk Moreland said:E said:
600 million will give everyone second thoughts
He could also spend basically June 24 - Aug 10 in Spain/Europe which has to be very appealing to him. He wasn't a huge fan of the requirements to show up at the elevated events in fear of fine along with not being allowed to control his own schedule, specifically to play some events in Spain.
While he couldn't control his own schedule with LIV, schedule they released today for 2024 this year is completely catered to him and Euros by scheduling it this way, and he would get to play Valderrama right in the middle of that run.
The fear of not being allowed to control his schedule is making him sign up for a league where he won't be allowed to control his own schedule?
I guess you can't read, huh? I wont' laugh/cry at that as I'd hate to make fun of the illiterate. $600M + more than 1 month consecutively in Spain/Europe vs having to show up to events you don't want to play or risk losing out on money. Maybe you're better at math.
Bunk Moreland said:cb1919 said:Bunk Moreland said:E said:
600 million will give everyone second thoughts
He could also spend basically June 24 - Aug 10 in Spain/Europe which has to be very appealing to him. He wasn't a huge fan of the requirements to show up at the elevated events in fear of fine along with not being allowed to control his own schedule, specifically to play some events in Spain.
While he couldn't control his own schedule with LIV, schedule they released today for 2024 this year is completely catered to him and Euros by scheduling it this way, and he would get to play Valderrama right in the middle of that run.
The fear of not being allowed to control his schedule is making him sign up for a league where he won't be allowed to control his own schedule?
I guess you can't read, huh? I wont' laugh/cry at that as I'd hate to make fun of the illiterate. $600M + more than 1 month consecutively in Spain/Europe vs having to show up to events you don't want to play or risk losing out on money. Maybe you're better at math.
I may have replied before I read the whole thing
cb1919 said:Bunk Moreland said:cb1919 said:Bunk Moreland said:E said:
600 million will give everyone second thoughts
He could also spend basically June 24 - Aug 10 in Spain/Europe which has to be very appealing to him. He wasn't a huge fan of the requirements to show up at the elevated events in fear of fine along with not being allowed to control his own schedule, specifically to play some events in Spain.
While he couldn't control his own schedule with LIV, schedule they released today for 2024 this year is completely catered to him and Euros by scheduling it this way, and he would get to play Valderrama right in the middle of that run.
The fear of not being allowed to control his schedule is making him sign up for a league where he won't be allowed to control his own schedule?
I guess you can't read, huh? I wont' laugh/cry at that as I'd hate to make fun of the illiterate. $600M + more than 1 month consecutively in Spain/Europe vs having to show up to events you don't want to play or risk losing out on money. Maybe you're better at math.
I may have replied before I read the whole thing
All good. I've definitely never done that before. Ever
I thought it was only on the CW for the second season, but they didn't broadcast it in Dallas. Even though our buses had large LIV ads on the side. I tried the app but not a huge fan of watching on apps because you can flip around channels.
I'm behind on the news. Given the news about the PGA/LIV merger I was confused by this thread, but apparently the merger still has a ways to go before it becomes reality.
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/pga-tour-liv-golf-dp-world-tour-merger-deal-deadline-delay/?zephr_sso_ott=uKF1ze
https://www.cbssports.com/golf/news/liv-golf-releases-2024-schedule-as-potential-merger-between-pga-tour-saudi-arabia-pif-remains-in-limbo/Quote:
The elephant in the room here is a big one. The Public Investment Fund of Saudi Arabia, which funds LIV Golf, is still in negotiations with the PGA Tour over a potential merger to house commercial operations under one umbrella. The framework agreement that is in place stopped the two sides from litigating against one another, but there has been no substantive news on how all of that will look in 2024 or beyond. The two sides set a Dec. 31 deadline to come to an agreement, though that timeframe could reportedly be extended.
https://www.sportspromedia.com/news/pga-tour-liv-golf-dp-world-tour-merger-deal-deadline-delay/?zephr_sso_ott=uKF1ze
Quote:
The proposed merger between the PGA Tour, LIV Golf and DP World Tour is expected to be delayed beyond the deal's deadline of 31st December, according to Bloomberg.
The agreement, which was first announced in June, is currently under investigation by the US Justice Department over antitrust concerns. The tours are now considering their next steps in response to the probe, which poses as a barrier to the deal going forward on its envisioned timeline.
Bloomberg reports that PGA Tour golfers are also involved in negotiations around the merger, with the goal of acquiring a stake in the newly formed commercial entity. The new company was set to combine the commercial businesses of all three golf tours, with Saudi Arabia's Public Investment Fund (PIF) bankrolling the body and having first refusal on any future investment from other parties.
Other factors that could hold up a deal include the financial details of the PIF's investment, as well as the logistics of working through each tour's broadcast contracts and brand sponsorships.
If the merge goes through, might as well cash in. I assume there will be more to follow.
I would say everyone on the PGA has has 2nd thoughts since the Monahan's "backstabbing". Why would any PGA player now feel any sense of dedication to the PGA Tour after the secretive merger announcement?
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What does LIV get for $600 million?
That's a lot of cheddar for one golfer no matter how good he is.
That's a lot of cheddar for one golfer no matter how good he is.
dcrewint said:
I would say everyone on the PGA has has 2nd thoughts since the Monahan's "backstabbing". Why would any PGA player now feel any sense of dedication to the PGA Tour after the secretive merger announcement?
The tone of my post was probably poorly expressed - I was just trying to recall what I remember him saying versus his current stance now. I just saw a post on ig that said the deal is close to being done.
I honestly have nothing against anyone that takes the LIV money now, and I never had anything against those who did early on. I thought all of the angst against golfers for taking Saudi money was misplaced from the very beginning.
As for Rahm, I seem to recall there were moments were he didn't seem too aligned with Rory or Tiger on the whole PGA position. So whether it was that, the move by Monahan or 600M, it's not surprising to me that he'd move.
To further this point, since the PIF is now invested in the PGA, why would they pay $600 million to move from one of their investments to another?Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
What does LIV get for $600 million?
That's a lot of cheddar for one golfer no matter how good he is.
When I said Monohan better be careful or he might lose the PGA…
More than a few called me a little dramatic. Well, it's now on life support.
He is an idiot! All he had to do was nothing!!!!! Hey LIV, good luck with your golf league! PGA has a set of rules in place.
And none of this is even a thing!!! But nope, Monohan had to prove his was bjgger.
Turns out, it's tiny…
Monohan you found a way to kill the golden goose, congrats!
More than a few called me a little dramatic. Well, it's now on life support.
He is an idiot! All he had to do was nothing!!!!! Hey LIV, good luck with your golf league! PGA has a set of rules in place.
And none of this is even a thing!!! But nope, Monohan had to prove his was bjgger.
Turns out, it's tiny…
Monohan you found a way to kill the golden goose, congrats!
E said:To further this point, since the PIF is now invested in the PGA, why would they pay $600 million to move from one of their investments to another?Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
What does LIV get for $600 million?
That's a lot of cheddar for one golfer no matter how good he is.
PIF hasn't invested in the PGA. They are trying to. I don't think those talks are going that well, which is probably why they're still working on buying players from LIV.
Now what they actually get for the $600 million is hard to quantify. Their goal is sports washing, not building a professional golf league.
Can't blame anyone for going after that kind of money but I'm not sure how interested I am with really working on my game with that kind of cash in the bank account. Probably skip practice more often and hang with the family…although Brooks kind of proved this wrong.
I had read Rahm Emmanuel's company + Fenway Sports Group and some other entities were trying to come up with funding to partner with the PGAT so they wouldn't have to take PIF money a couple months back. No idea where that is now. The elite simulator golf league tent deflating had to have been a major blow to a short term cash infusion to the PGAT superstars which isn't good.
I've also read from some LIV mouthpieces on twitter that Monahan will get canned if any deal actually goes through. Hell he might get canned if a deal doesn't go through also. He can't have much support from any entity at this point.
I've also read from some LIV mouthpieces on twitter that Monahan will get canned if any deal actually goes through. Hell he might get canned if a deal doesn't go through also. He can't have much support from any entity at this point.
I always assumed Rahm had originally planned to join LIV from the very beginning, mostly because of his relationship with Phil (Phil's brother). But Phil opened his mouth to the wrong guy and **** hit the fan and scared a bunch of guys.
At this point, is there a single player outside of Tiger that can really move the LIV needle? Surely, if they added a bunch of Scottie, Hovland, Aberg, Hideki players things could turn around. But Rahm to LIV doesn't do much to bring eyeballs does it?
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class of 03 said:
At this point, is there a single player outside of Tiger that can really move the LIV needle? Surely, if they added a bunch of Scottie, Hovland, Aberg, Hideki players things could turn around. But Rahm to LIV doesn't do much to bring eyeballs does it?
Rahm is major international eyeballs. LIV is playing a global game. If they got Hideki and Rahm then it'd be on a whole different level. Nobody is going to want to keep watching a watered down PGAT if the major hunters are all on LIV.
And at some point a network is going to give them a contract and stop colluding against them because it would be getting ridiculous at that point. I love Tiger...I know the older golf fan likes watching him pick his butt on the tee box. But I'd much rather watch Brooks, BCD, Rahm, Cam, Reed etc go at it.
LIV is 2 or 4 guys away from making their concentrated top talent far and away better than what the PGAT can produce. We'll see if they ultimately get there or not.
And I still think within 5 years the entire golf world is re-shaped, unification happens of some sort and we have a couple different types of leagues where all the top guys compete on it in one way or another.
Still surprised they haven't signed a South Korea player, even a lower tier guy. That wouldn't do much for viewers but golf is huge there and if they're looking to eventually partner with the LPGA as well I figured it would be a smart move.
sorta, yes they have some sports washing type of value in what they are doing, but you can bet your ass it is also a competition to them to prove to America that they can start a brand new golf league that can compete and possibly surpass the PGAT. A lot of pride at stake to them imo as well.cb1919 said:E said:To further this point, since the PIF is now invested in the PGA, why would they pay $600 million to move from one of their investments to another?Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
What does LIV get for $600 million?
That's a lot of cheddar for one golfer no matter how good he is.
PIF hasn't invested in the PGA. They are trying to. I don't think those talks are going that well, which is probably why they're still working on buying players from LIV.
Now what they actually get for the $600 million is hard to quantify. Their goal is sports washing, not building a professional golf league.
I think this year in terms of golf viewership percentages I was probably 60/40 watching PGAT over LIV. Five years ago I watched damn near every tournament every weekend. My viewing habits have certainly changes since LIV started and will continue now that John is going over.....along with other names that will be announced soon. Curious to see who also is making the move.
AustinCountyAg said:sorta, yes they have some sports washing type of value in what they are doing, but you can bet your ass it is also a competition to them to prove to America that they can start a brand new golf league that can compete and possibly surpass the PGAT. A lot of pride at stake to them imo as well.cb1919 said:E said:To further this point, since the PIF is now invested in the PGA, why would they pay $600 million to move from one of their investments to another?Some Junkie Cosmonaut said:
What does LIV get for $600 million?
That's a lot of cheddar for one golfer no matter how good he is.
PIF hasn't invested in the PGA. They are trying to. I don't think those talks are going that well, which is probably why they're still working on buying players from LIV.
Now what they actually get for the $600 million is hard to quantify. Their goal is sports washing, not building a professional golf league.
I think this year in terms of golf viewership percentages I was probably 60/40 watching PGAT over LIV. Five years ago I watched damn near every tournament every weekend. My viewing habits have certainly changes since LIV started and will continue now that John is going over.....along with other names that will be announced soon. Curious to see who also is making the move.
The PGA Tour trying to run a viable professional golf league v LIV just buying players isn't really a competition.
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