Kyle Berkshire, Long Drive Champ - PGA?

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oldschool87
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AggieDruggist89 said:

Average index on the PGA tour is about +5.5 playing tour events.

+2 is great for weekend guys and will win some matches. But that's about it.


+2 and from what tees. Nobody plays from where the pros play... most home courses do not have a tour box...
jja79
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I hope the guy makes it and wins the grand slam but I can't imagine him making it. I've been watching Golf Sub Par with Colt Knost and Drew Stoltz where they interview tour players. Listening to how good they were as kids, the experience they've got and the grind it is to get and keep a tour card it would seem he's a long, long way from that.
mavsfan4ever
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Love this podcast. Colt is hilarious. He won my regional tournament in high school by shooting 66, 66. We were very surprised and confused when a short little pudgy guy walked up to take the trophy.
jja79
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I never really cared for Ricky Barnes until I watched him on their podcast. Very interesting story. When you see a guy who is that good as a kid and barely competitive on the PGA Tour it really points out how hard it is for even that level of player.

We've got 3 Tour players at our club, each is JAG on the Tour, but they're on Tour. When I watch them practice and their attention to detail it's amazing. One of them chats it up with my son on the range and putting green and last saturday walked up to him on the range and told him he was holding his tee wrong when he went to tee his ball up. Who would have thought something like that?
Marauder Blue 6
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How are you supposed to hold your tee?
EMY92
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The pro may have been joking with his buddies for weeks about how he had a poor kid so screwed up by telling him that he couldn't even hold a tee correctly that the kid would question his entire game.
Thisguy1
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And why does it even matter?
jja79
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Roger joined our club during the time my son was being recruited so they always talk on the range about how that's going. When the kid signed his LOI he was very nice to congratulate him.

I should have been clear he showed him how to hold the tee so that he tees it up the same height every time.

Probably something that doesn't really matter to the game of most of us on this thread.
Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno
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Irons I tee all the same but I change my driver and 3 wood tee higher or lower depending if I want to hit it high or center low on the face changing the trajectory up or down.
But that's just me.
Marauder Blue 6
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jja79 said:



I should have been clear he showed him how to hold the tee so that he tees it up the same height every time.




that makes sense
Sooper Jeenyus
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Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

Irons I tee all the same but I change my driver and 3 wood tee higher or lower depending if I want to hit it high or center low on the face changing the trajectory up or down.
But that's just me.
You tee a 4-iron same as a wedge?
Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno
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Sooper Jeenyus said:

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

Irons I tee all the same but I change my driver and 3 wood tee higher or lower depending if I want to hit it high or center low on the face changing the trajectory up or down.
But that's just me.
You tee a 4-iron same as a wedge?


You hit a wedge off the ground the same as a 4 iron don't you?
Sooper Jeenyus
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From the ground, sure. From a tee?
Thisguy1
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Par 3s I mostly just fluff the ground up and make a ground tee. Usually the only time I use a tee with an iron is when I'm hitting a long iron off the tee on a par 4 or something.
aggiegolfer03
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I enjoy his YouTube channel, but he has a lot to work on with iron accuracy snd short game.

Fun to watch though.
baseballaficionado
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FTAco07 said:

This is really interesting, thanks for posting. I would have guessed all the top tier guys (top 20?) would have averaged closer to +8 than +6, but I bet if they played those courses in "normal" conditions that would be closer to true.

I have always been fascinated by the question of what these guys would shoot at your local muni course. On one hand they would be playing a 6,800 - 7,000 yard par 72 and their length would destroy it, but on the other hand they would have to deal with slow and bumpy greens, bad bunkers, and hard pan lies.

Also interesting to see our own Bronson Burgoon with the 19th best handicap on tour over a 4 year period.

Here is a glimpse into what you're seeking:


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Steve Marino, a PGA Tour rookie, stepped onto the first tee box at East Potomac Golf Course in Southwest Washington last month and scoured the ground for a place to push in his tee. A flat expanse of crusted dirt made up one corner; patchy grass covered the rest. Marino tried to force his tee into the dirt, but it snapped in half. He pulled another from his pocket and shoved it into a tuft of overgrown grass. When Marino stepped back into his stance, his right foot rested three inches higher than his left.

"Damn," he said. "What's it take to get a few yards of even ground?"

Standing there, with his hands on his hips and his scorecard still blank, Marino almost passed for the average public-course hacker. He was just a tad pudgy and, on this Wednesday morning, just a tad hung over. His brown curly hair spilled from under a Callaway hat, and tan cargo shorts hung to his knees. But already, Marino had distinguished himself from the typical golfer who played this very public course on Hains Point. His shirt was tucked in. He had arrived more than two minutes before his tee time. His golf bag contained a complete set of clubs, made post-1980.


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I had asked Marino, who will be competing in this week's AT&T National at Congressional Country Club, to play with me at East Potomac because I wanted an answer, finally, to the question that so many of us duffers ask as we walk off municipal courses and total up scores we hope will end up in two digits: What would a PGA Tour player shoot here, anyway? On a short course devoid of significant obstacles, could Marino possibly score in the 50s? Or would the annoyances of public golf -- bumpy greens, eroded fairways, chunky sand traps -- throw him wildly off kilter?


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The par-4 first hole was emblematic of Marino's round. He crushed a drive 320 yards down the right side of the fairway, almost all the way to the green, only to find the ball settled in a pile of twigs. Marino wasted his next shot chopping the ball out into the grass, and then he pitched his third shot to within 12 feet of the pin. He struck what felt like a pure putt, but the ball ran over sand and stopped a few inches short of the hole. Marino stood on the green and shook his head. "Ridiculous. Just ridiculous," he said. Then he tapped in for bogey.


I don't want to quote too much, so just read the rest via the article.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/07/01/AR2007070101221.html
FTAco07
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Thanks for sharing. That sounds exactly like what I would expect, pros would never struggle but also unlikely to go as low as you might think due to conditions.
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