Shortening the Driver Shaft

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Anyone did this? Lots of info out there about this and the fact that many modern day drivers are way longer than they used to be to get that much desired extra yardage, makes me wonder if it's not a good move for some people.
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Buy a bottle of foot spray.

Take your current driver to the range and spray the face with foot spray.

Take 10 swings at normal playing length...and check the face to see where the shot pattern is.

Then spray the face again and choke down 1/2" - 1" and take 10 more swings.

If you're making center contact...either leave the shaft alone or butt cut it. But, remember that for every 1/2" inch you cut from the butt...you'll need to add 6 grams back to the head for the club to 'feel' the same.
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jj9000 said:

Buy a bottle of foot spray.

Take your current driver to the range and spray the face with foot spray.

Take 10 swings at normal playing length...and check the face to see where the shot pattern is.

Then spray the face again and choke down 1/2" - 1" and take 10 more swings.

If you're making center contact...either leave the shaft alone or butt cut it. But, remember that for every 1/2" inch you cut from the butt...you'll need to add 6 grams back to the head for the club to 'feel' the same.

Yeah I read about having to compensate for the weight. Thanks for the idea about the foot spray.
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I had 2" taken off my driver about a month ago. Lost maybe 5 yards, but have become much much MUCH straighter.
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tandy miller said:

I had 2" taken off my driver about a month ago. Lost maybe 5 yards, but have become much much MUCH straighter.


Did you adjust the weight at your clubhead at all?
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My driver is a 1/2" shorter also. I ordered on callawaypreowned and they give you the custom options which i took advantage of.

I also lost some driving distance but i feel more accurate with this driver. Although i have developed a pull swing lately.
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Yes.
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I took an inch off. No adjustment on weight, I barely notice a difference. Fell more accurate and haven't noticed any significant yardage loss.
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Sweet. I have an R1 driver so I think I'm going to buy another shaft and do this to pop in there. It will be easy to add weight to the club head with the Taylormade screw in weights.

Thanks for the input.
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ORAggieFan said:

I took an inch off. No adjustment on weight, I barely notice a difference. Fell more accurate and haven't noticed any significant yardage loss.
I feel like I rarely hit one on the screws, so if I can increase the likelihood of that happening, I could see my driving average not dipping or actually going up.
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Exactly what I used. I took the stock weight out, weighed it, and ordered a weight off the bay that was ~20 grams heavier. So im still a few grams light, but much better than not adding at all
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My buddy put his 3-wood shaft in his driver and is now hitting it much better. He may have lost a few yards distance wise, but he is much more accurate and has fewer balls balloon off into the woods one way or the other.
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tandy miller said:

I had 2" taken off my driver about a month ago. Lost maybe 5 yards, but have become much much MUCH straighter.
I did the same. I did not adjust the weight.
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I cut my TM M1 down an inch and put a lighter grip on it. It came out to a D1 swing weight. I then started adding lead tape to the bottom until I found the weight and flight that I liked. I may have lost a bit of distance but 265-270 down the middle is better than the trees or OB.
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That white foot spray is great for this
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I did this and lost about 12 yards but i do hit it straighter.

I average 255-260 carry now. I hit the m1 vs my old big bertha and carried the m1 10-12 yards longer and a couple times i carried it 20-22 yards longer but my miss was just terrible with the m1...not worth it for now
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Could I slap this on my driver? It weighs 5 grams more than my old shaft, which would help a tad with the weight issue.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/TaylorMade-R15-M1-M2-SLDR-Fujikura-Pro-70-Stiff-Graphite-LH-3-Wood-Shaft-New/362017851923?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D41375%26meid%3D7e0bdfa37083464da88c897712d5199c%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D263056224794
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You'll still need to add weight to the head...5 gm shaft difference is negligible.

Add 1.75" to the shaft + adapter measurement to get playing length...to account for BBTG.
irish pete ag06
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Does this seem like a pretty good rule of thumb?

http://www.golfwrx.com/forums/topic/44071-swing-weight-factors-in-relation-to-parts/

Quote:

1/2" = 3 swing weight points

2 gr club head weight = 1 swing weight point

5 gr grip = 1 swing weight point

9 gr shaft weight differences = 1 swing weight point

4* flatter lie or more up right lie = increase or decrease 1 swing weight point
jj9000
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Yes...and the high-density lead tape from GolfWorks or DSG weighs 1 gram per inch.

https://www.golfworks.com/high-density-lead-foil-tape/p/HDLT/
irish pete ag06
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Yeah, I was just planning on buying some screw in Taylormade weights to put on my driver head.

I've never messed with lead tape? Where's the best place to stick it?
jj9000
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The marketing folks will tell you that couple of grams added to the sole of the toe side will encourage a fade...or a couple of grams added to the sole side of the heel will encourage a draw.

To really affect ballflight you'd have to add over 25 grams to the extreme toe or extreme heel.

Short answer = Put it on the sole...and in a place that it will stay on.
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jj9000 said:

The marketing folks will tell you that couple of grams added to the sole of the toe side will encourage a fade...or a couple of grams added to the sole side of the heel will encourage a draw.

To really affect ballflight you'd have to add over 25 grams to the extreme toe or extreme heel.

Short answer = Put it on the sole...and in a place that it will stay on.
Awesome. Thank you very much for all this info!
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I just choke down 1 inch
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Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

I just choke down 1 inch

Just doesn't feel comfortable to me. I like having my bottom hand right at the end.
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irish pete ag06 said:

Rustys-Beef-o-Reeno said:

I just choke down 1 inch

Just doesn't feel comfortable to me. I like having my bottom hand right at the end.


I agree with that, I installed the mcc +4 grips. So as I choke up an inch or more the grip feels similar to being on the end of the grip. Leaves me options to extend out to the end of the grip for more power or somewhere in between depending on course tightness.
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Two of the straightest and longest drivers I've ever had were 43 1/2 and 44 inches, and I'm 6'4". Tom Wishon wrote a book about clubfitting years ago where he addressed this in detain. Pretty much said that shortening the shaft of your driver under today's "standard" is almost always a good thing. Manufacturers went longer because the average golfer bases how well they hit their driver on the one in ten shot that they flush with a longer shaft that goes 3 yards further.
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1208HawkTree said:

Two of the straightest and longest drivers I've ever had were 43 1/2 and 44 inches, and I'm 6'4". Tom Wishon wrote a book about clubfitting years ago where he addressed this in detain. Pretty much said that shortening the shaft of your driver under today's "standard" is almost always a good thing. Manufacturers went longer because the average golfer bases how well they hit their driver on the one in ten shot that they flush with a longer shaft that goes 3 yards further.


Exactly!
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Cut down every club in my bag 1" from standard a few years ago after wondering why almost every pro appeared so "tall" compared to their clubs at address.

I'm 5'10 so it just seemed a normal thing to do, and the guys at the shop thought I'd lost my mind. Have played the best golf of my life since.
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AggieIce said:

Cut down every club in my bag 1" from standard a few years ago after wondering why almost every pro appeared so "tall" compared to their clubs at address.

I'm 5'10 so it just seemed a normal thing to do, and the guys at the shop thought I'd lost my mind. Have played the best golf of my life since.


Seriously. That's awesome.


I've never had an issue with yardage. I played 10 strokes better this weekend when I hit iron off the tee every hole.

I'm looking for more fairways.
Matsui
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Do the clubs feel different? Did you have to add weight or anything back on?
t - cam
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i can't imagine an inch of shaft would be noticeable in your swing. Especially since it's coming from within your grip. But I have no clue, that just seems like the least of the concerns with this.
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6 swingweight points is noticible
Aggie369
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An inch of a steel shaft is quite noticeable...especially in relation to how heavy the club head feels
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Ordered that shaft from ebay.

Went and played 9 holes this morning and choked up/down on the driver every time I swung it. All drives but 1 were in the fairway. Tracked a few to see what kind of distance loss I was seeing. It was minimal, if any.

Got home and the shaft was on my front porch. It wasn't supposed to come in until tomorrow. Now, I'm going to have to head to the range for a little bit to try it out.

This is looking like a winner for me.
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