One of my friends who is a tech alum and I were debating this yesterday. We concluded that Colorado would probably be the clear cut win the north for least popular and that it would probably be a close call in the south between tu, a&m, tech and ou. We guessed the voting would go about like this:

tu- most of OU and A&M and about one fourth of tech and baylor would vote tu

A&M- most of Tech and Baylor and half to a quarter of tu would vote A&M

Tech- pick up lots of votes from several schools: tu, A&M, OSU and even Baylor

OSU- half to a quarter of OUs votes and a couple of tech votes but not much else

OU- would get most of tu and OSUs votes but few elsewhere

Baylor- 1 or 2 votes from each of the other 3 texas schools but thats it

All that disgust and loathing is brewing up some fine college football. Maybe not quite as good the SEC divisions but not far off either.

My vote is for Tech.

Iowa State

I'm biased because I loathe Tech. But Iowa State is not a bad call either.

I think hands down UT in the South. Part due to success, part due to arrogance. Probably CU in the North, due to ****ty fans and football scandals, though not nearly as strong as the anti-UT sentiment.

UT grego?........I guess it is natural for the most people to hate the best one in the bunch.

I would say Baylor, they are nothing but a drain on the Big 12 as a whole.

Actually, in all seriousness, I would say Texas hands down. Assuming 'least popular' = 'most peniis-envied'

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UT would get alot of votes from Nebraska fans as well for killing their NC hopes a couple times and also being one of the big reasons they no longer have their precious PQ's.

IMO, tu. Could care less what anyone else thinks.

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I would say Baylor, they are nothing but a drain on the Big 12 as a whole.

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i'm usually not one to stand up for baylor, but they had more national champs than a&m and tceh combined this year. plus, the baseball team split the crown with nebraska. they may not be good at football and their men's hoops is a complete joke and should receive the death penalty, but they excel at other sports.

I would say A&M because the entire uneducated state of Texas is a t-shirt sip fan and all uneducated west Texas is a t-shirt tek fan.

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i'm usually not one to stand up for baylor, but they had more national champs than a&m and tceh combined this year. plus, the baseball team split the crown with nebraska. they may not be good at football and their men's hoops is a complete joke and should receive the death penalty, but they excel at other sports.

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they're great at sports that lose money and terrible and sports that make money. they are the only school in the big 12 to never go to a bowl (hence never contribute any bowl money). yes, they have had some success this year in minor sports, but financially they add nothing to the conference.

DagS, ever been to the trailer parks in East Texas?

Patch, have you?

Patch why are telling everyone where you live?

I grew up in Shreveport, an extension of East Texas.

Don't plan on it Patch!

define "least popular"

if you are talking about most hated or even envied, at this point it would have to be Texas.

a few years ago even the president of K State said that Texas has the most arrogant fans. Texas doesn't need to be liked. we are past that. the thing i don't get is what is wrong with being arrogant? as a 4th generation Texan, hell yeah i'm arrogant. and the success Texas has had academically and on the field overall is awesome.

i know ou has owned our azzes recently, but i graduated in '73 so i'm not a newcomer in the red river rivalry and hope to god this current streak ends soon.

you don't see Texas fans talking smack about ou's football team like aggies do about Texas' team. but we still know they suck, and nothing changes that in our minds.

i go back to the bumper stickers that said "OU football, best Texas football players money can buy" this was decades before you started playing ou and it seems you are now catching up with the attitude that it sucks that ou can come here and raid our high school football players.

Coach Brown used to say in his talks that he would rather Texas high school players stay in Texas and go to A & M rather than go to ou. but you know what, he hasn't said that since the '99 game in College Station. He showed tremendous respect and sympathy for your tragedy and so did our team and university, donating blood and such.

well, i haven't heard him voice that sentiment about players going to A & M rather than ou since that '99 game. something must have happened the night/morning of the game for him to stop saying that....

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I grew up in Shreveport, an extension of East Texas.

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I grew up in Bossier, and you would be shot for saying this...

You just stay on your side of the Red and out of our fair city!

[Play Nice...Staff]

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You just stay on your side of the Red and out of our fair city!

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While tempting, I'll stand down from the easy gay smack patch. Too easy and a bit middle school on this one.

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I grew up in Shreveport, an extension of East Texas.

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I grew up in Bossier, and you would be shot for saying this...

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I grew up in East Texas, and you'd be shot for saying this there, too.

Everybody hates the sips because they're a bunch of pipe-smoking f*gs.

C-, Georgetown

I know an '05 graduate of St Michael's here in Austin who is going to A & M in the fall. He talks about A & M all the time. Well, he went to a function at A & M in late May, I'm not sure if it was an orientation or what, but he was shocked at the number of east Texas rural types in attendance. I could tell his feelings were a little changed by the trip.
I was surprised because I know the growth of A & M during the 80's and 90's was from urban areas of the state.
East Texas is a stronghold for A & M among the rural population. Certainly there are plenty of Texas graduates in the area, but for the most part A & M rules out in the rural areas among the farmers and ranchers. Course yall probably wouldn't claim them or even want their support since 99% of them did not attend A & M.
addendum: I'm from the Tyler area and all 4 valedictorians when I was in high school went to Texas.

Does least popular mean "most disliked" or just "has the fewest fans?"

Fewest fans would be the school with least alums and less rivals= Baylor probably.

Most disliked would be the one with the most heated rivalry with a big school= A&M or Texas. A&M might have an edge because some people from Tech seem to have a tad of animosity towards the Ags right now. But Texas has some not fans in Lubbock and Norman.

Texas_Fan,
Why would we not accept ranchers and farmers support??? Their support is what makes A&M one of the most conservative universities in the country and what makes A&M unique from t.u. Personally I love the fact they support A&M!! Usually rural people are very ethical, honest and hardworking.

North - CU
South - UT

Big 12 - CU

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Incorrect. East Texas has as many t-shirt sips as it does t-shirt Ags.

I don't hate Tceh, I pity their sad, miserable, meaningless existence. However, they do deliver my pizza in under 30 minutes.

Rollingwood,

Did you read my post? Yall only like people who are real aggies, the ones who graduated from A & M. I've read the discussions on this website. Those farmers and ranchers did not graduate from any college much less A & M. Talk to your brethern about why they don't want t-shirt fans, I can't explain it. On a side note, you loved that you had more t-shirt fans in the 80's and early 90's.

If you were the overwhelming choice of the majority of the state of Texas like The University is currently you would be crowing from the rooftops. Coach Brown has done a great job in making Texas the talk of the state in regards to college football. Disparage him all you want, that is a fact and high school players love to go to Texas and play for him.

sounds a lot like john cooper

1: It is an undeniable FACT that Texas has and always will have more T-shirt fans than A&M.

2: No on ever said A&M has NO T-Shirt fans

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Incorrect. East Texas has as many t-shirt sips as it does t-shirt Ags.

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Allright by if that is the case. I disagree though.