according to sources Dave Campbell's mag has him picked as the sophomore of the year in the big 12 next year.I thought according to ketch,texaus,and numerous bigmouths of the orange persuasion-he was just a throw-in to get Jorrie Adams and would basically suck.Wonder what you think now?

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Kind of like Michael Bennett was just a throw in. By the way, Michael is tearing it up and all signs appear to point toward him being a steal.

Damn, those sips sure know their football:

THE SPORTING NEWS 2004 FRESHMAN ALL-AMERICAN FIRST TEAM

DEFENSE

L (E) Quentin Groves, Auburn
L (E) Jason Jack, Texas A&M
L (T) Franklin Okam, Texas*
L (T) Red Bryant, Texas A&M
LB Brandon Siler, Florida*
LB Dan Connor, Penn State*
LB Brian Toal, Boston College*
DB (CB) Roshaun Fellows, Tennessee
DB (FS) Ko Simpson, South Carolina*
DB (CB) Antoine Cason, Arizona*
DB (CB) Darrelle Revis, Pittsburgh*



The Sporting News Big 12 Defensive Freshman of the Year: L (T) Red Bryant, Texas A&M

http://www.aggiesports.com/football/news/120904notes.htm


sips are imbeciles. Those clowns have never even seen a football.

That's funny stuff. He'd have a decent shot at being our 4th tackle.

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“Now that we’ve lost to OU four times in a row, it has gotten huge. But it’s really not about me.” Mack Brown at the 2004 Big XII Media Day

"I'm responsible for this team, so if we lose it's my responsibility" Mack Brown after 5th straight loss to OU

Bryant had a whopping 3 tackles behind the line of scrimmage last year (1 sack and 2 TFL's). Not really anything to write home about for a starter.

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For my tastes, I'm almost happier to have him then Martellus; a stud DL is made even more solid with a guy like him vying for starting time, and I gotta believe all the attention his little bro has gotten is putting a bit of a spark in him to shine as well.

No disrespect for Martellus or what he can do for our presitge, but in four years, I believe that the M.Bennett who makes Aggieland the proudest will be Michael.

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Bryant had a whopping 3 tackles behind the line of scrimmage last year (1 sack and 2 TFL's). Not really anything to write home about for a starter.

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Then HOW did he get to be a Freshman ALL-AMERICAN and Big XII Freshman of the Year?

Bryant plays Nose Tackle you stupid jackass. His job is to make sure that it takes at least two players to block him, not to make a large number of tackles. Sips are morons.

Are we at the point of chest beating over preseason honors ? Lets wait until the post season.

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Chest-beating over preseason honors is 100% of t.u.'s game.

Randy's stupidity nearly rivals his feghotry

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http://texas.rivals.com/content.asp?CID=421688

Bryant has been a super pick-up for the ags and was under-rated by Ketch. Ketch said last year that Bennett was not a throw in and admitted he was a good prospect. Jack was rated #12 in TX by Ketch.

No way Jack is the best Soph in the Big 12. Who wouldn't pick Peterson? Okam is also better in my opinion but is splitting time w/ 2 all-conf DTs.

Peterson is the at the top of the list, but he plays the position with the highest amount of injury in football, and he runs too high; he's going to get hurt too badly to get drafted if he doesn't keep his pad level down... he needs to go straight into the pros at the first possible moment and lock in the money now.

Okam better than Jason Jack? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?

http://www.draftdaddy.com/prospects/bestFresh.cfm

Okam will be drafted higher than Jason Jack.

Red is a good player on your line. He'd be battling to be in the 3-deep on ours. He might be able to beat out Janzen and Marshall. Lokey is probably a toss up.

atxaggie, are you too dumb to know the difference in that situation from this one? That wasn't written by a horn fan. That wasn't gloated over on orangebloods or texags. We don't pound our chests over meaningless pre-season awards like the aggies are on this thread. Feel free to do so, though, if it makes you feel better about knowing you are going to lose 6 in a row to us.

By the way, Bryant's preseason award is nice, but he still would be fighting for a spot on the two-deep at Texas. If you put Bryant at Texas and either Okam or Lokey at A&M, then Okam or Lokey would be the one was freshman all-American and preseason sophomore of the year. When there are only a couple of freshmen that start, it's pretty hard to not make freshman AA. I would think that aggies, who claim to know so much about football, would understand this. If there were two All-Big 12 tackles at A&M, Bryant would have played sparingly, much like Okam and Lokey did.


Brandi: Honest question since I have always known more about offense than defense. I thought that a true nose tackle only existed in a 3-4. If you're in a 4-3 or 4-2-R, what distinguishes one of the tackles as a nose and the other not? Because the name signifies that they line up across from the nose of the ball, as in directly across from center. If A&M still uses a nose tackle, wouldn't that make it a very unbalanced line?

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Brandi- Like most of the sources that you reference they do not know the difference between DE and DT. Okam was honorable mention on their list and as I stated he was/is splitting time w/ two all-conference caliber DTs. He can be better than Wright who if he returns to form (healthy) will be a top 10 NFL pick.

another gem from the website that Brandi linked

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way to link that as support for who will be drafted higher.

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The 3-4 employs a Nose Guard... a NG plays directly over the center. The position is similar in that the job is to take up a maximum number of blocks. The technique is almost 100% bull rush.

A Nose Tackle in a 4-3 or 4-2-R usually plays in the Center Guard gap opposite the Defensive Tackle.

A NT might bull rush or might play a shade technique or whatever. Sometimes his job is like a NG in that he is designated to do what coaches call "eating blocks" in a straight rush. Other times he might simply occupy both the C and the G by putting a hand on both at the snap and pushing them up, keeping them off of the LBs and allowing lateral movement behind the line of scrimmage.

P.S. The NG is what makes the entire 3-4 work.

Watch the best NFL defenses these days; at the snap, the NG will try to run over the Center. The OL set will bump him from either the right or the left side, and sometimes engage him with two players.

The best NGs either run over the bump side (because that's where the ball is probably going to pass by) and break free, or get so far into the backfield that the opposite Guard or Fullback has to engage them (him), too.

Good examples: The Patriots ran a 3-4 with a NG last year when they won the Super Bowl. Tampa Bay ran the most famous 4-3 scheme with a Nose Tackle in the NFL the year they won the Super Bowl (2002), taking up blocks with the NT in order to rush from the DT side with Warren Sapp.



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By the way, Oakum and Bryant both play the same position (Nose Tackle), but BRYANT was the Sporting News Big XII Freshman of the Year as well as being a Freshman All-American.

BI - We don't use a ng fulltime in our 4-3. Sometimes it's balanced. When our second shift of tackles was in, we usually had Lokey over center.

BTW, I like Bryant a lot. Good player. It just points up the difficulty of recruiting. The coaches don't know who's gonna be the best when they get them in practice against each other. Wright, Crowder, and the DE we had a few years ago from the private school up in Ft.Worth or Dallas are cases in point. They all excelled as freshmen, but nobody predicted it.

Uva Uvum Vivendo Varia Fit





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Bryant would eat Okam for lunch.

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You don't use a NG at all in your 4-3. You use a Nose Tackle:

Nose Tackle 97 Frank Okam | 95 Derek Lokey OR 92 Larry Dibbles

http://www.mackbrown-texasfootball.com/pages/depthchart.html

This is a fundamental defensive shift. You didn't use one last year. I was yanking Salty's chain.

We were using Lokey last night over the center in the Michigan game. Beat their ass too.

Uva Uvum Vivendo Varia Fit

They must've found a weakness in the line. Michigan is a pretty sh^tty team.

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He looks like he has.

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The guy he beat 1:1 was an All-American.

And that sh^tty team would spank the Ags. Of course, that doesn't prove they're not sh^tty.

cue they lost to ND remark.

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Beautiful, did you come up with that all by yourself?

MICHIGAN??

BWAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

MICHIGAN didn't spank anybody all year.

As far as their offensive line, here is an indication of its quality, dumbass:


RUSHING OFFENSE

Rank Name Games Carries Net Avg. TDs Ydspg Wins Losses Ties

1 Rice 11 688 3372 4.90 30 306.55 3 8 0
2 Texas 12 615 3590 5.84 41 299.17 11 1 0
3 Navy 12 689 3474 5.04 36 289.50 10 2 0
4 Air Force 11 648 3051 4.71 32 277.36 5 6 0
5 Minnesota 12 572 3082 5.39 29 256.83 7 5 0
6 California 12 509 3081 6.05 30 256.75 10 2 0
7 West Virginia 12 590 3034 5.14 23 252.83 8 4 0
8 Louisville 12 534 3005 5.63 47 250.42 11 1 0
9 Virginia 12 550 2914 5.30 34 242.83 8 4 0
10 Michigan St. 12 500 2862 5.72 22 238.50 5 7 0
11 Northern Ill. 12 550 2858 5.20 28 238.17 9 3 0
12 Oklahoma St. 12 594 2844 4.79 32 237.00 7 5 0
13 Utah 12 525 2833 5.40 36 236.08 12 0 0
14 Boise St. 12 596 2758 4.63 49 229.83 11 1 0
15 Fresno St. 12 506 2730 5.40 36 227.50 9 3 0
16 Oklahoma 13 565 2709 4.79 22 208.38 12 1 0
17 Wake Forest 11 527 2267 4.30 18 206.09 4 7 0
18 Memphis 12 482 2438 5.06 26 203.17 8 4 0
19 Louisiana Tech 12 490 2403 4.90 25 200.25 6 6 0
20 LSU 12 506 2326 4.60 20 193.83 9 3 0
21 South Fla. 11 447 2066 4.62 23 187.82 4 7 0
22 Arkansas 11 467 2061 4.41 22 187.36 5 6 0
23 North Texas 12 491 2237 4.56 21 186.42 7 5 0
24 Tennessee 13 520 2418 4.65 21 186.00 10 3 0
25 Kansas St. 11 480 2044 4.26 25 185.82 4 7 0
26 Alabama 12 502 2221 4.42 21 185.08 6 6 0
27 UCLA 12 466 2219 4.76 18 184.92 6 6 0
28 Cincinnati 12 525 2201 4.19 17 183.42 7 5 0
29 Auburn 13 553 2383 4.31 27 183.31 13 0 0
30 New Mexico 12 526 2147 4.08 20 178.92 7 5 0
31 Syracuse 12 477 2145 4.50 23 178.75 6 6 0
32 Virginia Tech 13 552 2317 4.20 18 178.23 10 3 0
33 Southern California 13 493 2306 4.68 27 177.38 13 0 0
34 Nebraska 11 412 1939 4.71 18 176.27 5 6 0
35 North Carolina 12 436 2115 4.85 19 176.25 6 6 0
36 Army 11 383 1935 5.05 21 175.91 2 9 0
37 UNLV 11 442 1903 4.31 17 173.00 2 9 0
37 Temple 11 457 1903 4.16 19 173.00 2 9 0
39 Northwestern 12 445 2066 4.64 23 172.17 6 6 0
40 Central Mich. 11 448 1869 4.17 17 169.91 4 7 0
41 South Carolina 11 464 1856 4.00 14 168.73 6 5 0
42 Tulsa 12 513 2021 3.94 24 168.42 4 8 0
43 Bowling Green 12 432 2019 4.67 23 168.25 9 3 0
44 Texas A&M 12 434 2007 4.62 24 167.25 7 5 0
44 Troy 12 510 2007 3.94 17 167.25 7 5 0
46 TCU 11 476 1828 3.84 26 166.18 5 6 0
47 Eastern Mich. 11 423 1824 4.31 14 165.82 4 7 0
48 Missouri 11 457 1815 3.97 13 165.00 5 6 0
49 Georgia Tech 12 486 1947 4.01 11 162.25 7 5 0
50 Florida St. 12 460 1944 4.23 19 162.00 9 3 0
50 San Jose St. 11 441 1782 4.04 22 162.00 2 9 0
52 Wisconsin 12 532 1931 3.63 18 160.92 9 3 0
53 Toledo 13 527 2091 3.97 26 160.85 9 4 0
54 Mississippi 11 439 1748 3.98 13 158.91 4 7 0
55 Oregon 11 429 1746 4.07 12 158.73 5 6 0
56 Mississippi St. 11 401 1744 4.35 11 158.55 3 8 0
57 Georgia 12 463 1882 4.06 16 156.83 10 2 0
58 Florida 12 415 1870 4.51 20 155.83 7 5 0
59 Kent St. 11 415 1695 4.08 24 154.09 5 6 0
60 Nevada 12 463 1849 3.99 26 154.08 5 7 0
61 Michigan 12 481 1843 3.83 15 153.58 9 3 0


Michigan wasn't even the best rushing team in Michigan... hell, Michigan wasn't even the THIRD best rushing team in Michigan.

Michigan SUCKS

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POTY!!!

f' those inbreds.

Invictus - Hightower is the one who's swallowed a lot of aggression, along with a lot of cheeseburgers. At 355, he should be the fattest starting offensive lineman in the state. He looks like Maddog's been training him.

BI - Michigan start running right up the gut in the third quarter. Fortunately, they quit before we figured out how to stop it.

Uva Uvum Vivendo Varia Fit