quote:You are right. It takes time; none of this stuff happens overnight, just like Texas' home football attendance, which has been declining since 2009 (someone posted that on this thread or another - very good observation). OU's dip into the Texas market for recruits is declining, and in five or ten years, that will (and has already shown) have a huge impact on their success. I'm a Sooner fan, but I see through all the BS. The Aggies outclassed everyone else in the BIG XII, ESPECIALLY OU and Texas, when your team moved to the SEC. It's paying big dividends for them now, but will pay even bigger dividends in the next several years and beyond. I see OU being impacted worse than anyone. Without those DFW recruits, they will have to look outside to the West coast and to be honest, why on earth would anyone want to move to Norman from California?quote:OU is not still thriving. They are having problems with their capital campaigns and they are being exposed on the field against top competition. It's a matter of evolution, and they have missed a mutation here.
Big xii is dead men walking, but the sips and Sooners will survive and eventually thrive (hell OU is still thriving)
So enjoy it for now.
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quote:Did he give Strong a Movado, too?
Talked to a former UT All American (in several sports) tonight. He is famous. Very tied into the program still. He played 6 years in the NFL.
Knows Red McCombs and all the big insiders. They are going after Tom Herman. They don't really want UH in the Big Xii because it will be harder to pull him out of there if they join the same conference.
He loves Strong personally (sincere guys when lives his players) but doesn't think he is the right fit. This guy has a daughter at A&M. Likes Sumlin. Won't say his name for obvious reasons.
Anyhow...it's on...
quote:I have heard similar things about Herman being quietly "courted" by Perrin's cronies in Houston. But they fear another "Saban-gate" where it becomes public mid-season.
Talked to a former UT All American (in several sports) tonight. He is famous. Very tied into the program still. He played 6 years in the NFL.
Knows Red McCombs and all the big insiders. They are going after Tom Herman. They don't really want UH in the Big Xii because it will be harder to pull him out of there if they join the same conference.
He loves Strong personally (sincere guys when lives his players) but doesn't think he is the right fit. This guy has a daughter at A&M. Likes Sumlin. Won't say his name for obvious reasons.
Anyhow...it's on...
This is especially true with a race-baiter as HC. Strong has played the race card before. One of the main reasons Perrin and Fenves have gone to extraordinary lengths to make a show of public support for him. Perrin's a trial attorney, remember, he's papering the file for when Strong is shown the door.
quote:Tell Bryant Westbrook hi from me next time you see him.
Talked to a former UT All American (in several sports) tonight. He is famous. Very tied into the program still. He played 6 years in the NFL.
Knows Red McCombs and all the big insiders. They are going after Tom Herman. They don't really want UH in the Big Xii because it will be harder to pull him out of there if they join the same conference.
He loves Strong personally (sincere guys when lives his players) but doesn't think he is the right fit. This guy has a daughter at A&M. Likes Sumlin. Won't say his name for obvious reasons.
Anyhow...it's on...
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USC may get in on the Herman sweepstakes. The Big Lead already calling for USC to call up Herman
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The first call Swann makes should be to Southern California native Tom Herman, who has taken over football in the state of Texas at the University of Houston. Herman was born in Cincinnati, but grew up in Simi Valley and went to college at Cal Lutheran. He's got a substantial contract with Houston, but if USC really wants to commit to winning, it should call up its legions of donors and have them pony up the cash to buy out Helton and his staff, and outbid anyone else for Herman. Given the slew of wealthy alumni USC has at its disposal, that kind of money could be raised in one brisk afternoon.
quote:Herman would wreck shop at USC. Best possible outcome if we don't get him. Don't want him anywhere near the SEC, certainly not at LSU nor Auburn. And don't want him at horn or Sooners, because of recruiting.
USC may get in on the Herman sweepstakes. The Big Lead already calling for USC to call up Hermanquote:
The first call Swann makes should be to Southern California native Tom Herman, who has taken over football in the state of Texas at the University of Houston. Herman was born in Cincinnati, but grew up in Simi Valley and went to college at Cal Lutheran. He's got a substantial contract with Houston, but if USC really wants to commit to winning, it should call up its legions of donors and have them pony up the cash to buy out Helton and his staff, and outbid anyone else for Herman. Given the slew of wealthy alumni USC has at its disposal, that kind of money could be raised in one brisk afternoon.
GO WEST, YOUNG TOM!!!
Tom hates texas university. I'm surprised not more people know that. It would be a miracle if they get him.
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Tom hates texas university. I'm surprised not more people know that. It would be a miracle if they get him.
Is this a bad joke?
USC is in real trouble, they need a guy like Herman.
sips, not so much, they got who they wanted already
quote:Yeah, but their paychecks cleared when he coached at tu before. If he doesn't want the tu job, it would be because of the massive politics involved at that place. Too many masters.
Tom hates texas university. I'm surprised not more people know that. It would be a miracle if they get him.
quote:Based on what? He certainly loves Mack Brown
Tom hates texas university. I'm surprised not more people know that. It would be a miracle if they get him.
quote:Taken over football in the state of Texas??? LOLWUT?
USC may get in on the Herman sweepstakes. The Big Lead already calling for USC to call up Hermanquote:
The first call Swann makes should be to Southern California native Tom Herman, who has taken over football in the state of Texas at the University of Houston. Herman was born in Cincinnati, but grew up in Simi Valley and went to college at Cal Lutheran. He's got a substantial contract with Houston, but if USC really wants to commit to winning, it should call up its legions of donors and have them pony up the cash to buy out Helton and his staff, and outbid anyone else for Herman. Given the slew of wealthy alumni USC has at its disposal, that kind of money could be raised in one brisk afternoon.
quote:If we don't get him? You're not buying into the "hot seat" crap are you?quote:Herman would wreck shop at USC. Best possible outcome if we don't get him. Don't want him anywhere near the SEC, certainly not at LSU nor Auburn. And don't want him at horn or Sooners, because of recruiting.
USC may get in on the Herman sweepstakes. The Big Lead already calling for USC to call up Hermanquote:
The first call Swann makes should be to Southern California native Tom Herman, who has taken over football in the state of Texas at the University of Houston. Herman was born in Cincinnati, but grew up in Simi Valley and went to college at Cal Lutheran. He's got a substantial contract with Houston, but if USC really wants to commit to winning, it should call up its legions of donors and have them pony up the cash to buy out Helton and his staff, and outbid anyone else for Herman. Given the slew of wealthy alumni USC has at its disposal, that kind of money could be raised in one brisk afternoon.
GO WEST, YOUNG TOM!!!
quote:Season is young. Another mid-season meltdown and I don't know what will happen. OTOH, if we do well, the NFL may come calling again for Sumlin.
If we don't get him? You're not buying into the "hot seat" crap are you?
Nut mainly I just want Herman out of the state of Texas and not in the SEC. He's a great recruiter and game day coach.
quote:Oh I agree about not wanting Herman around anyone we compete with, but not the rest.quote:Season is young. Another mid-season meltdown and I don't know what will happen. OTOH, if we do well, the NFL may come calling again for Sumlin.
If we don't get him? You're not buying into the "hot seat" crap are you?
Nut mainly I just want Herman out of the state of Texas and not in the SEC. He's a great recruiter and game day coach.
A mid-season meltdown MIGHT actually heat the seat up (not buying that it was this year) and Sumlin's not going to the NFL no matter how badly the sips want to push that narrative.
quote:quote:Tell Bryant Westbrook hi from me next time you see him.
Talked to a former UT All American (in several sports) tonight. He is famous. Very tied into the program still. He played 6 years in the NFL.
Knows Red McCombs and all the big insiders. They are going after Tom Herman. They don't really want UH in the Big Xii because it will be harder to pull him out of there if they join the same conference.
He loves Strong personally (sincere guys when lives his players) but doesn't think he is the right fit. This guy has a daughter at A&M. Likes Sumlin. Won't say his name for obvious reasons.
Anyhow...it's on...
And...wrong. But he did admit to getting paid as a player. He is the second player I've gotten to know that admitted to getting paid.
Don't ever let sips talk about integrity in their program. It's a myth they write themselves.
Why didn't the San Antonio Express News writer credit me with this trailblazing article?
Yours was far better written. More evidence of my signature created in 2011.
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By the way, as I quote myself, I am a mother effing witch...
Last night as ESPN began to breakdown the legit playoff contenders, the consensus was as I posted. Alabama, Clemson, Michigan and Ohio State. That's it. All the focus is on conferences that reside East of the Mississippi.Quote:
It is readily apparent that the immediate future of College Football lies to the East of the Mississippi, and everyone West of it is simply producing scout team defense and offense for the true College Football Playoff contenders.
The argument in 2016 will be, "Does the B1G and SEC each deserve two spots in the CFP? Can Clemson sneak in above one of the SEC teams? Michigan and OSU will be a defacto playoff game, but is that fair if they are better than the other teams in the CFP?"
Boy, if we upset Bama in two weeks, talking heads everywhere are going to explode!!Bonfire 1996 said:
By the way, as I quote myself, I am a mother effing witch...Last night as ESPN began to breakdown the legit playoff contenders, the consensus was as I posted. Alabama, Clemson, Michigan and Ohio State. That's it. All the focus is on conferences that reside East of the Mississippi.Quote:
It is readily apparent that the immediate future of College Football lies to the East of the Mississippi, and everyone West of it is simply producing scout team defense and offense for the true College Football Playoff contenders.
The argument in 2016 will be, "Does the B1G and SEC each deserve two spots in the CFP? Can Clemson sneak in above one of the SEC teams? Michigan and OSU will be a defacto playoff game, but is that fair if they are better than the other teams in the CFP?"
No kidding. It's pretty much assumed that Bama will be #1 forever and an automatic for the championship game.APHIS AG said:Boy, if we upset Bama in two weeks, talking heads everywhere are going to explode!!Bonfire 1996 said:
By the way, as I quote myself, I am a mother effing witch...Last night as ESPN began to breakdown the legit playoff contenders, the consensus was as I posted. Alabama, Clemson, Michigan and Ohio State. That's it. All the focus is on conferences that reside East of the Mississippi.Quote:
It is readily apparent that the immediate future of College Football lies to the East of the Mississippi, and everyone West of it is simply producing scout team defense and offense for the true College Football Playoff contenders.
The argument in 2016 will be, "Does the B1G and SEC each deserve two spots in the CFP? Can Clemson sneak in above one of the SEC teams? Michigan and OSU will be a defacto playoff game, but is that fair if they are better than the other teams in the CFP?"
Final Bump as everything I wrote in the original post is true, Biff Tannen style. $40 Million distribution. Big 12 afterthought. Sooners were talked about not belonging. Big 12 dying a slow death.
Now, when does the coaching talent drain begin? Lincoln Riley gets hired away and Stoops retires? Gundy leaves Okie Lie? Holgy goes to the ACC? (Snyder is just going to die on the sidelines at this rate.)
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Now, when does the coaching talent drain begin? Lincoln Riley gets hired away and Stoops retires? Gundy leaves Okie Lie? Holgy goes to the ACC? (Snyder is just going to die on the sidelines at this rate.)
Next offseason is when it will be very noticeable. Michigan just became the first school with 3 non-head coaches making in excess of a million per year. Let that begin to bleed through the B1G. The SEC West will have two new head coaches in 2018. Not enough wins for sumlin, freeze, Bert, and Mullen to survive.
Lincoln Riley is gonzo after 2017.
Conference realignment is one reason the Big 12 has fallen behind in recruiting
SWC 2.0 collapse is right on schedule...
SWC 2.0 collapse is right on schedule...
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