Is the Big 12 Expanding? Imploding? Who's Looking to Leave?

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http://www.dallasobserver.com/news/is-the-big-12-expanding-imploding-whos-looking-to-leave-7543841
Nonregdrummer09
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This is accurate:



This is not:
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"It started with Jim Delany and the Big Ten looking at expansion, trying to go after Notre Dame," recalls Chip Brown of HornsDigest.com. Brown was the point reporter for every bit of breaking news in the Big 12's 2010 realignment. "Notre Dame didn't go, but at that point, Jay Nixon, the governor of Missouri, said, 'Hey Big Ten, take Mizzou!' At that point, Texas and [then-UT athletics director] DeLoss Dodds started to think, 'We need to protect ourselves, and if the Big 12 unravels, we need a place to land.'"

Johnny Z
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I'm trying to figure out why the Observer gives a **** about conference alignment.
marble rye
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Why is the Sooner mascot a horse?
Madman
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You didn't hear? OU is now in the SEC and SMU is now in the BDF.
marble rye
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A settler wagon with a wheel popped off would have been funnier.
King O Frod
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quote:
Why is the Sooner mascot a horse?
aggiehawg
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I'm trying to figure out why the Observer gives a **** about conference alignment.


Politics are coming into play. Boren has been a dips*** in the past, but he finally sees the writing on the wall. The big XII is a dead man walking.
marble rye
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Huh. Guess I never cared enough about them to remember.
Mookie
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The only things chimp brown is the point reporter for are best places in Austin for cranberry Martinis and breaking news on rogaine.
quidam65
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There was an announcement of conference expansion today.

The Sun Belt announced that Coastal Carolina will join in all sports except football.
DifferenceMaker Ag
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Maroon Dawn
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Why is the Sooner mascot a horse?


The horses that pull the Sooner Schooner on its epic quest to GTFO the Little 10 ASAP.
Johnny Z
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"Anytime David Boren talks about realignment, you have to take him seriously," Chip Brown says. "He's very smart politically. When he said the conference was 'psychologically disadvantaged' at 10 teams, he was saying that the Big 12 needs to be 12 schools or else. I think he's quietly looking around to see what's possible for OU in the next two years."

Are you ****ing kidding me? He's very smart politically??? Boren failed miserably TWICE at conference realignment and now OU is a deadman walking because of his idiocy. He may be looking around but no one is looking back.
Mookie
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Still one of my favorites.
2wealfth Man
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That story lost me when Chimp was noted as being a key contributor to the reporting during realignment
The Notorious A.G.G.I.E.
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What a pos "conference"
Agsuffering@bulaw
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Much fail in that article!

Even assuming, oSu and ksu got kicked to the curb, I dont see the B1G taking ou and ku. The combined population of the 2 states is 7 million currently. Neither is projected to grow at a high rate. The population of Virginia alone is 10 million and projected to grow much faster. VA has better recruits than kansas and oklahoma combined. The B1G would be better served offering UVA and VT than ou and ku.

But the B1G could conceivably get GT or a NC school to further expand the footprint. Kansas and Oklahoma are scraps.


The other fail is the PAC taking tech, tcu, and baylor in a package to get tu. All 3 of those programs are dead weight. Yes the PAC would probably take tech and oSu to get sips and thieves.




https://www.census.gov/prod/2/pop/p25/p25-1131.pdf
Agsuffering@bulaw
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And while I agree that the BDF is dysfunctional, I do not see it breaking up in the near future.

At this point, the sips are the only ones in a position to initiate a change. But they have no motivation. They have political control and are getting paid fat by the LHN.

They realized they had scheduling problems. So they picked up the phone and got games with Notre Dame, bYu, UCLA, Cal, tO$U, Michigan, Maryland, U$C, L$U, etc.

It's their own personal plantation. They would have to get offered something big to give up their plantation model.
Silent For Too Long
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It does make sense that the one's *****ing about this the most is OU, though. No one got the **** end of the stick in realignment more then they did. A&M, TCU, and Baylor all got elevated in relevance at their, and their recruiting's, expense. The sips at least got the LHN. Their (probably) one chance to join the SEC has now expired. They can't go the the Pac without the sips. OU is royally ****ed right now.
wbt5845
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Brown was the point reporter for every bit of breaking news in the Big 12's 2010 realignment.


musicman55
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There's no way on God's green earth that the Pac would take TCU and/or Baylor. None. They don't want a religious-based institution in that league..... and if they were absolutely forced into it, they'd make a run at BYU first. The Pac will invite gaylor and/or frogettes about the time A&M decides to move back to the BDF.

Which means..... never.
2wealfth Man
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If OU and sip ditch the BDF; here are the leftovers that I can think of that would make some level of geographical sense:

UH, tech, Okie St, K St, La Tech, Memphis, Boise St, Colo St, BYU, SMU, TCU, Rice, New Mexico (??), Tulane, Tulsa
Brazos Born
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This would have been more appropriate for the Phallus Observer
ccatag
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This would have been more appropriate for the Phallus Observer

Photo-shopping the Boz's mug on that would have been perfect
malenurse
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Three major "fails" in that article:

"Chip Brown was the point reporter on every bit of breaking news in the Big 12's re-alignment"

"He's (David Boren) very smart politically" albeit a quote from idiot Brown.

"Texas, Oklahoma and Kansas can go lots of places" Clay Travis quote

edit: Just went back and re-read the article and noticed it was written be well known "journalist" Sean Pendergast


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