So the NCAA is talking about penalizing schools with substandard grad rates. One of the things they're considering is that when a player fails out of school, the school may not use that schollie on another player until the failed player's 4 years are up.

Sounds good, even admirable.

But what's REALLY going to happen with that? I'll tell you: the crappy schools whose recruits magically double their SAT scores are now going to have to magically double their GPAs, too. Do you think your average non-Vanderbilt SEC school is going to allow anyone to fail once this goes into effect?

The schools that are going to get hurt by this are the schools which have real degree programs, not the schools at which this would seem to be aimed.

The people who are going to get hurt by this are the grade-risk football players who are told by their coaching staff that they must major in basket weaving (rather than a useful degree) so the team won't get hurt, and tough chit if that doesn't help you later in life.

The ONLY way for this to be meaningful is if there were across-the-board standards for degree program quality among the NCAA member institutions. Rather than imposing discipline on a school, it's another way for the ethics-challenged programs to get a leg up.

This would really hurt Texas & OU.

invictus - The Prez of Vandy has climbed out on a limb by himself. Nothing will come of any of it. More dangerous to college football is the Clarett lawsuit. That can seriously dilute the product and college football's ability to compete with the NFL. I fear the the NFL may realize that they are both fighting a losing battle and missing a chance to weaken a competitor for the sports dollar.

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This would really hurt Texas & OU.

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I don't see how it would hurt OU. Anyone capable of rudimentary cognition is automatically summa cum laude there. That's kinda the whole point of my rant.

Texas will have 2 or 3 guys fail out per year, and won't be able to replace them on the team for a few years. OU will have 4.0 students who can't read but can bench 550.

So it will affect recruiting. Casey Hampton was a huge grade risk out of high school. Under this possible new rule, Texas probably wouldn't take a chance on him. Casey graduated from UT, somewhat against the odds. Seems a shame to condemn someone like him to a degree from Mississippi State High School.

Also, it will be interesting to see if players leaving school because of other reasons, such as trouble with the law, will be included in the forfeited scholarship category. Won't that be nice? If you get a below C average you hurt the team for the next 2-3 years, but if you hold up a gas station they can replace you with a recruit immediately.

Dub,

The riskiest thing of all, IMO, is that at some point the NCAA is either going to have to give up the charade of enforcing the rules, or actually hammer a bigtime program.

When that happens, it's very possible that the NCAA will cease to exist.

It also hurts the player who may have passed through HS because of football, but would be a risk because of low SAT scores. Under this change, many difficult colleges (sorry ttech and OU, you're not included here, you'll still take him) would pass on this kid, and he'd never get the opportunity to attend the university of his choice where he may have been able to turn his academic situation around.

The one reason this will not be an issue is $$$.

Every year some academic comes up with a grand plan to "clean-up" college athletics and return college sports to the "student-athletes". It sounds great but its not grounded in reality. College football is a free minor league system to the NFL.

"Forgive your enemies, but remember their names" - JFK

The NCAA simply cannot afford to place any real sanctions on the top 30 big time football programs. The NCAA has shown itself to be completely incompetent, especially after the assistant coaching pay fiasco, of which the top 30 or so schools picked up the tab (they are, after all, the ones that make the money that supports the entire shabang); an idea was floated, and well received, that these schools plus a few should form their own competitive union, a kind of mini NFL for universities. They would keep their own revenue, they would govern themselves, and they would compete for the national title, and they would without question even further concentrate talent and power at the top.

Fla, Fla State, Miami, Virginia Tech, Notre Dame, Penn State, Texas A&M, OU, tu, Michigan, Ohio State, Michigan State, USC, LSU, Auburn, Alabama, Georgia, et al don't need the NCAA. They can and probably should break away and quit subsidizing the incompetent NCAA and other hangers on.

The NCAA knows this and doesn't want to rock the boat. So watch out if you're SMU, Rice, technological or Tulane. Don't worry too much if you're a big boy.

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I don't see how it would hurt OU. Anyone capable of rudimentary cognition is automatically summa cum laude there. That's kinda the whole point of my rant.

Texas will have 2 or 3 guys fail out per year, and won't be able to replace them on the team for a few years. OU will have 4.0 students who can't read but can bench 550.

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Oh, brother. You delusional moron. UT had a guy GRADUATE last year and then go on to make a freakin THIRTEEN on the NFL's Wonderlic test. Do you realize how freakin' DUMB you have to be make a THIRTEEN on the Wonderlic test?

I'll tell you: DUMB AS A BOX OF ROCKS.

Shirley - Go back to your noodlin'. Those catfish ain't gonna jump on the plate tonight on their own.

Guys we're seeing the effect of what's been done already. Northern Illinois, Marshall, et al are beating traditional powers. It's not a level playing field.



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