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During the first half of 2012, the Texas Tech University (TTU) community should learn if the Texas Higher Education Coordinating Board (THECB) has certified TTU as a National Research University (NRU). The enabling data was submitted in October 2011. The prospects of a successful audit of the data are excellent. In short, TTU's remarkable progress reflects the outstanding efforts of the faculty and staff. So, we begin this year with heartfelt thanks to the entire TTU community for their impressive accomplishments.

Assuming all goes well from here: What's next? Should the University pause or coast along? Or, should the achievement of NRU status be thought of as just one of a few steps to Tier 1 status. Herein we describe the NRU quest and its relevance to TTU efforts during 2009-2011. We also provide some thoughts on the pride that TTU should feel in earning NRU status. Finally, we propose a future course that TTU should consider if it is to join the ranks of America's Tier 1 institutions—those that belong to the Association of American Universities (AAU).

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First, the steps to AAU-status may take ten-to-fifteen years and nothing is automatic. An institution is invited into the AAU and while quantitative criteria play a role in formulating the invitation, decisions are not made on the meeting of exact benchmarks and ranking criteria.

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http://www.depts.ttu.edu/provost/attt/2012/03/tier1steps.php

This will ruffle some feathers between Norman to Waco and down to Houston.

Similarly, I have plans for a menage-a-trois with Salma Hayek and Halle Berry.

Likewise it should take 10-15 years.

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texas tech is one of if not the sh*ttiest university in this state

Tortilla high is a shoe in if AAU stands for Amateur ******* Union.

Moe, that will literally come to fruition before tard gets AAU acceptance.

They'll get in eventually. Even if they don't, it's a great school with great people. Yes I'm serious.

I think we can all agree that tech sucks.

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I think we can all agree that tech sucks.

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No, we can't.

Sorry Avery, you went to a crap law school. No worries, I made the same mistake.

I'll beat the **** out of you and your sh*tty tceh degree

It's worked out pretty well for me, cap'n. Sorry you feel differently.

Hanging in there.

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They'll get in eventually.

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These are singularly the dumbest, most moronic 4 words ever written and you cannot possibly have written them while sober. This is not a soccer participation ribbon we are talking about.

Ok. I still think they will at some point. And if not, it doesn't really mean dick anyway IMO.

Goals are good, whether they are realistic or not.

Avery has to be trolling

The NRUF was put together by a legislator from Lubbock and Tech graduate. It was done in an effort to call Tech "Tier One" because Tech performed so poorly in USNWR compared to Texas A&M and Texas. It has nothing at all to do with Tier One or AAU. Nothing! Tech had to meet only 4 of 6 criteria to qualify. If you look at the criteria some are quantative and while arbitrary easy to count. Other criteria can be nothing more than opinion. They are as follows:

-$400 million endowment annually

-200 Ph.D.'s awarded annually;

-freshmen class with high academic achievement;

-membership in Association of Research Libraries, Phi Beta Kappa or equivalent national recognition;

-high quality faculty;

-commitment to high quality graduate education

Can you grasp Tech being recognized for anything and not being requird to meet all of these criteria and more. Which 2 did Tech not meet?

Now, after NRU, Tech goes stone quiet on Tier One recognizing how important AAU is and how far far away they really are. I beleive Tech received so much criticism for attempting to tie NRU to Tier One and confused the Tier One matter with reality so badly they got called down and reeled in. You can read the NRU press "before and after" articles and regarding Tier One....now you see it now you don't.

I am for Tech doing good but they have to earn it. There is no free pass just because Tech wants Texas higher education to look like California.

I am not sure Tech will ever be in a position to be invited to the AAU.

You should just go over to Tard Power Avery. The goal keeping is getting old.

Yes, we all know you're a lawyer.

Yes, we all know you got the "real" education that gives you a huge advantage over every other law school in the free world that is ranked higher than Tech's.

Yes, we get that you make sooooo much money the rest of us should be washing your windows at the intersection.

And yes, we get that you have to come over here to an Aggie website to validate your law school, your salary and your life choices.

Jeez...get a beta fish or some arts and crafts stuff to keep you busy.

What the **** are you babbling about?

Kyle-

My guess is #3 and #5.

and Moe...LMFAO!

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What the **** are you babbling about?

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He just dismantled you.

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The NRUF was put together by a legislator from Lubbock and Tech graduate. It was done in an effort to call Tech "Tier One" because Tech performed so poorly in USNWR compared to Texas A&M and Texas. It has nothing at all to do with Tier One or AAU. Nothing! Tech had to meet only 4 of 6 criteria to qualify. If you look at the criteria some are quantative and while arbitrary easy to count. Other criteria can be nothing more than opinion. They are as follows:

-$400 million endowment annually

-200 Ph.D.'s awarded annually;

-freshmen class with high academic achievement;

-membership in Association of Research Libraries, Phi Beta Kappa or equivalent national recognition;

-high quality faculty;

-commitment to high quality graduate education

Can you grasp Tech being recognized for anything and not being requird to meet all of these criteria and more. Which 2 did Tech not meet?

Now, after NRU, Tech goes stone quiet on Tier One recognizing how important AAU is and how far far away they really are. I beleive Tech received so much criticism for attempting to tie NRU to Tier One and confused the Tier One matter with reality so badly they got called down and reeled in. You can read the NRU press "before and after" articles and regarding Tier One....now you see it now you don't.

I am for Tech doing good but they have to earn it. There is no free pass just because Tech wants Texas higher education to look like California.

I am not sure Tech will ever be in a position to be invited to the AAU.

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WTF is your point in all this rambling? So what if the NRUF was proposed by a Tech grad and/or Lubbock State Rep. It had to be approved by the Texas Legislature, not one singular person you ****ing dumbass.

And Tech didn't "go quiet" on Tier 1. Tech is not Houston and you don't see the Tech campus littered with Tier 1 banners and signs and purposely misleading the general public (see: http://www.usnews.com/education/blogs/college-rankings-blog/2012/03/23/update-to-the-2013-best-graduate-schools-rankings .)

Tier 1 has different meanings depending on which discussion you're currently in. To see Tech's perspective, click on this link you dip****... http://www.depts.ttu.edu/vpr/discoveries/Spring-2011/briefs.php

"The terms, "Tier One" and "national research university" do not have hard and fast definitions and are often used interchangeably. But they are often members of the AAU or have similar characteristics."

Tech has aspirations to be an AAU school...whether it will get there or not, I don't know. There are certainly some criteria that we're a ways off from meeting. And Tech recognizes that.

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Tceh's aspiration to national prominence is a lot like a coyote fart. There's not much substance to it and the only folks who noticed were nearby when it came out.

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He just dismantled you.

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This reminds me of a post on this board about a decade ago, complaining about how people would simply slap an insult and then proclaim they'd just "owned" someone.

Two things:

1. Texas could use another Tier 1 school and if it is tceh., well that would be OK.
2. For the moment, few things beat making fun of tceh.

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An institution is invited into the AAU and while quantitative criteria play a role in formulating the invitation, decisions are not made on the meeting of exact benchmarks and ranking criteria.

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To get invited into the AAU, tt must get an AAU member to sponsor them and I don't think their is a current or future member that is prepared to become an AAU laughing stock.

I don't really understand this. Tech is trying to improve itself, just like everyone else is. The effort should be celebrated because it provides better opportunities for our state's citizens to better themselves. The more Tier 1, AAU, etc. universities we have, the better off we are. This isn't sports where it's a zero sum game and another's failure helps your success. This is actually really important.

If we're counting on Tech to become a State of Texas educational treasure and resource, we're f'ed.

Hey Avery are you an Aggie undergrad ?

I would bet yes. Don't let these blinndergarders and Aggie flunkies get to you. And to the Aggies that mention that Tech working toward tier one is in the best interest of this state. Hats off to you. We have 26 million folks and only 2 tier 1 public universities; Cali has 35.5 million with 7. U of H, Tech, and hopefully UTD can give us 5.

We need to upgrade the education levels in this state. The energy industry, in its current form, will not last forever. We better have new and leading edge industries and the skilled work force to operate those industries if Texas is to keep its economic edge in a very unsettled world.

How do tceh grads feel knowing that as tceh moves to Tier 1 status, the entrance requirements will become too hard for any of the old guard to make it in?

Then maybe you shouldn't admit 100% of applicants.

Texas State shouldn't be left out of the discussion. They are growing and could eventually pass tech and UH.

I know two people (not a big sample) that went to tech their freshman year, had a 3.0+, but hated Lubbock, went to Texas State and graduated, and both said the the classes in San Marcos were more challenging than Lubbock.

I am all for more AAU schools in Texas. I don't care if Tech ends up as one either, but let's be honest, Tech is a long way away.

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Do not forget UNT, UTA, UTSA, TSU, and I see Tech dude mentioned UH and UTD. With limited resources, these seven schools will be in a dog fight for those resources to become a Tier 1 school.

From a different site talking about what constitutes a Tier 1 school, "According to a January 31, 2010 article in "The Texas Tribune," schools that receive over $100 million annually in research grants, have low student to faculty classroom rates, very selective admission guidelines and are members of the American Association of Universities can be considered tier one schools. The competition to be included as a tier one university is stiff, as they get the cream of the crop in science students, the biggest research grants and the best endowments.

Tell me how Tech will "grow" their endowments, garner more research dollars, become selective with incoming students, and such.


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Hey Avery are you an Aggie undergrad ?

I would bet yes. Don't let these blinndergarders and Aggie flunkies get to you. And to the Aggies that mention that Tech working toward tier one is in the best interest of this state. Hats off to you. We have 26 million folks and only 2 tier 1 public universities; Cali has 35.5 million with 7. U of H, Tech, and hopefully UTD can give us 5.

We need to upgrade the education levels in this state. The energy industry, in its current form, will not last forever. We better have new and leading edge industries and the skilled work force to operate those industries if Texas is to keep its economic edge in a very unsettled world.

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Yes, I did. And yes, it is in the State's best interest.

Your posts, however, are embarassing on multiple levels. Not on this thread, but in the others where you run over here trying to talk athletic smack to Texas A&M. You have absolutely no room to do that, as Tech's Athletic Department can't currently hold a candle to what A&M's is doing. Realize that every time you try to discount A&M's athletic accomplishments, you're degrading Tech as well because A&M is a lot better in that department right now, across the board. Stop.