Whats taking so long sips?

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AGSPORTSFAN07
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UTex09
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Apparently Mack thinks he can take his time announcing the hires. I wouldn't be too surprised if he has already made some deals, but is waiting for after some bowls to announce as he has stated he might do.

I'll wait to see the hires to pass judgment. If we pick up Harsin/Chryst, Bostad (Wisc OL) and a badass DC Mack can wait until January to announce for all I care.
BarnacleScraper
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Mack trying to get coaches to early commit now?
UTex09
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Hey-oooooo
BohunkAg
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you may lose Corey Nelson though.
BohunkAg
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Temple hires Addazio

http://www.gatorsports.com/article/20101222/ARTICLES/101229875/1136?Title=Addazio-hired-to-be-head-coach-at-Temple
CoachLB
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I think he is having trouble getting people to take the jobs.Coaches that know the story are talking about how Brown treated the coaches through this season and how bad he treated a man he has known for 28 years (Davis).It has been said Brown hasn't spoken to Davis since he has turned in his resignation.Just some things being heard in the coaching community.
5one2
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I think he is having trouble getting people to take the jobs.Coaches that know the story are talking about how Brown treated the coaches through this season and how bad he treated a man he has known for 28 years (Davis).It has been said Brown hasn't spoken to Davis since he has turned in his resignation.Just some things being heard in the coaching community.
This is the opposite of true.
UTex09
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I think he is having trouble getting people to take the jobs.Coaches that know the story are talking about how Brown treated the coaches through this season and how bad he treated a man he has known for 28 years (Davis).It has been said Brown hasn't spoken to Davis since he has turned in his resignation.Just some things being heard in the coaching community.


If it were up to Mack he wouldn't have fired GD. GD was in Mack's wedding for God's sake. If anything Mack babies the coaches too much. If it weren't for big money guys threatening to pull 7 figure donations, GD would still be here.

Also, if you think nearly any coach in America wouldn't seriously listen if Texas came calling you are fooling yourself. We had a bad year this year, but one year doesn't erase the most wins in the past 10 years. Not to mention the amount of money even coordinators make here.

Trust me, Mack and co. won't have to beg anyone to coach for Texas.
BohunkAg
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This is the opposite of true.


Why didn't you just say "false" you ignorant b-stard?
CoachLB
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Not what I am hearing. And what I am hearing is coming from people really close to the program and college coaches.. But not going to argue with you, you may be hearing just the opposite.
BoyNamedSue
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Treated him bad - what? Mack has stuck by Davis for the last decade, inslulating him from criticism year after year and paying him a small fortune. Texas fans have wanted Davis gone going back to the days of Applewhite and Simms, so his finally being shown the door shouldn't come as a surprise to anyone. If Mack was wrong in letting him go, we'll see how many other programs show interest in him now that he's been released?
UTex09
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Mack has stuck by Davis for the last decade, inslulating him from criticism year after year and paying him a small fortune.


This CANNOT be overstated.
BoyNamedSue
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And as for not speaking with him - I'd say Mack's just a little busy these days trying to salvage his program....I'd bet holding hands with a former coach is the last thing on his mind until he gets his coordinator situation ironed out.
Dallasag02
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This is the opposite of true.


Yeah, I'm sure you have the inside scoop. Please tell us what you're hearing, since you sound so confident in your sources.
CoachLB
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UT guys- Didn't say Mack would have to beg, he just may not get his first choices.And the part about the way Mack has treated Davis is from about as close to first hand as you can get. UT has problems and Brown may only coach a couple more years,coaches may have to think twice if they are interested in long term.But I won't try to convince ya'll just telling what I have heared from other coaches.

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UTex09
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Yeah, I'm sure you have the inside scoop. Please tell us what you're hearing, since you sound so confident in your sources.


How can anyone argue that Mack hasn't treated GD well when Greg has done nothing besides have his job saved by Black Jesus and the roomies? This year showed the nation what horn fans knew..GD is and always has been incompetent unless he had all universe talent at QB. Mack protected him for years when people cried for GD's head every year (save 2005 and 2008).
TheHulkster
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Kind of sheety how Coach Boom makes Mack get rid of his best friend, and then Boom bolts for greener pastures.

And by sheety, I mean funny as hell.
UTex09
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Boom did us a favor.
Gigem314
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Also, if you think nearly any coach in America wouldn't seriously listen if Texas came calling you are fooling yourself.

Not for a demotion. This guy was an OC under Urban Meyer at arguably the top program in the country. Mack is only fooling himself if he thinks any coach would just jump at the chance to downgrade and go to texas because it's texas.
Dallasag02
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No doubt Mack protected GD and that part of the story seems far fetched, but there have been numerous stories about internal bickering on the t.u. coaching staff this season. Mack has been painted (even by some sips) as being out of touch and at the very least uncertain of himself these days. All you have to do is read the story of his hiring of the consulting firm to try to figure out what's wrong to know he doesn't have a clue how to fix this mess at this point. Excluding GD, all objective indicators point to there being a rift, not the other way around.
AGSPORTSFAN07
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Greg Davis coached you guys to two MNC games. And won one of those. Why do you people cry about him so much? Just curious.
CoachLB
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I said Mack has treated Davis bad in the way he handled Davis' resignation and after.And this is coming from people involved. But we will just have to disagree. Mack has won 10 games or more for 10 years and a MNC.Coaches have noticed how he has thrown people under the bus after one poor season.There is alot going on you a program just doesn't self destruct like UT did this year after one poor season if not.

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UTex09
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No doubt Mack protected GD and that part of the story seems far fetched, but there have been numerous stories about internal bickering on the t.u. coaching staff this season. Mack has been painted (even by some sips) as being out of touch and at the very least uncertain of himself these days. All you have to do is read the story of his hiring of the consulting firm to try to figure out what's wrong to know he doesn't have a clue how to fix this mess at this point. Excluding GD, all objective indicators point to there being a rift, not the other way around.


I agree on this and it's pretty well documented. Mack is too thin skinned for this anymore, and I'd bet he's almost done here. That's another topic all together though.

AGSPORTSFAN, GD didn't take us to those MNCs. Black Jesus and the roomates did. This year showed what GD is. We had the talent ON PAPER, but the offensive scheme and development was so mind ****ingly terrible because we didn't have an all worlder to pull it out when plays broke down.
UTex09
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I said Mack has treated Davis bad in the way he handled Davis' resignation and after.And this is coming from people involved. But we will just have to disagree.


Ah, I misunderstood you then. That could very well be true. I have no knowledge of what happened after the resignation.
BoyNamedSue
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We've all heard rumors. I have a friend that goes back decades with a number of coaches on the staff....so we are all getting information second-hand. FWIW, Mack lamented on letting Davis go, but pressure finally won out.

Something I've heard multipple times is the apparent necessary chemistry of the incoming coaches. This was something that plagued this last group and played a part in the fracture of the staff/coach. I aldo agree with '09....that Mack has someone in place and is waiting for the right time to announce.
5one2
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So after claiming otherwise for over a decade, Rivalries posters are now arguing that Greg Davis was a good coach.

Did not see that coming.
Harry Stone
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klanhorn
5one2
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You forgot t-shirt.
AGSPORTSFAN07
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So after claiming otherwise for over a decade, Rivalries posters are now arguing that Greg Davis was a good coach.

Did not see that coming.





Um no. What I was saying is I didn't hear the general t-sip population complaining in 2005. Nor last year in January. Nor in any of the other 10+ win years. We all knew he sucked. The flip-flopping is just amusing.
TAZ99
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If it were up to Mack he wouldn't have fired GD


Isn't this why coach boom wanted out? Almost everyone else associated with the program wanted Davis gone, everyone except Mack. Would make sense that potential coaches would be hesitant to go there.
Drip99
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AGSPORTSFAN, GD didn't take us to those MNCs. Black Jesus and the roomates did.


So you are telling me that wunderlick and the roomates drew up all their own game plans and called their own plays? Was GD the QB coach as well? If so, are you saying he had no role in developing colt or booger into the players they became?

Did any of the Greg Davis offenses break records at UT? As it stands now, is Greg Davis the best OC that texas has ever had based on numbers? Did Greg Davis play a roll in any of the following:



"Under his guidance, the Longhorns have has produced 10 of the top 11 passing seasons, 11 of the top 13 total yardage campaigns and the top nine scoring years in school history. Texas averaged 39.0 points per game in the last decade (2000-09), which ranked second nationally and first among BCS conference schools. The Horns averaged at least 35 ppg in nine of the 10 seasons, including three seasons of at least 40 ppg. In 2005, UT set a then-NCAA record with 652 total points and a school record by averaging 50.2 ppg."



BohunkAg
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Don't talk stats, Jesus. It confuses and angers sips.
UTex09
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Mack is famous for saying that Vince took off when they STOPPED coaching him. Again, when you have a guy like Vince, who regardless of his NFL emo freakouts, was one of the best and most electrifying CFB players in decades, and two roommates who throw passes to each other on speeding boats its really probably harder to not score over 40 ppg.

Just my opinion, and it is shared by most horn fans.

as for calling their own plays, it's well known that VY didn't listen to a damn thing GD called if he didn't want to, and Colt often audibled out of a play as well.

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TAZ99
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Well, screw looking for an OC, just go to communal living for the entire offense. They'd probably put up 50ppg if they started going on camping trips in lieu of a hotel stay.
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