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Realtors: Why the hell isn't this house selling?

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swimmerbabe11
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lives out of town
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Red Pear Realty said:

If you have a realtor, you do not need to be making initial contact with listing agents. That's your realtor's job and you doing that is making you and them look bad. Let your realtor do their job and you'll be better off.


my realtor doesn't live in Houston. I'm looking up homes on HAR. it's extra work for me to call her and say hey I want to go to this house, see if they'll show it and call me back so we can phone tag about when to see it.

I want to purchase a house. A listing agent should want to sell a house. It shouldn't be more complicated than that for the listing agent.
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If my realtor called me and said "hey, someone called me direct and wants to see the house. They said they have a realtor but they aren't local. So I'll be showing it." I'd likely say tell them no.

The whole situation sounds dumb, unnecessarily complicated, kind of sketchy, and like you aren't serious about buying a house.
swimmerbabe11
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So if a buyer uses the HAR function to schedule a showing or uses HAR to reach out to the listing agent to schedule a showing, that's sketchy? If that's the case, they should really just make the whole website realtor only. When realtors market homes they are listing, they plaster their information all over it with "call me to see this home!" not "call your realtor about this home!"

I'm honestly dumbfounded, because when I was shopping in 2018, this wasn't a problem. Any time I leased a house, I never used an agent this was never a problem. In my experience, it's not super uncommon for a realtor to be remote, but I'm in new construction, so maybe my experience is different.

We are on a thread about how an unoccupied house won't move...it doesn't seem like the market is just so hot that you can afford to blow off interested buyers.
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Just wondering what value this agent is bringing you.
Buck Compton
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jja79 said:

Just wondering what value this agent is bringing you.
Probably nothing besides the whole racket about paying them and if you buy without an agent, then you're leaving money on the table because most are still doing the 6% thing. I agree, let the realtor handle it if it adds value, but I should be able to browse as well.

But she didn't even tell the listing agent they were out of towndidn't say she had an agent at all. Seems like the listing agent said "if you don't have one, then get one"… which this listing agent is going to have to get the **** over at some point with the recent law change. "Use a realtor or you can't buy my house" sure seems awfully like some of the same price-fixing and anti-competitive behavior that got them in this mess.
swimmerbabe11
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Quote:

. "Use a realtor or you can't buy my house" sure seems awfully like some of the same price-fixing and anti-competitive behavior that got them in this mess.


this is 10000% the way it has come off. twice now.
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Nobody is telling you that you have to use a realtor. What they are telling you (once you tell them that you already have an agent) is that your agent needs to do the showing, not them (for free). I don't understand how anyone could be dense enough to think that someone else should work for them for free. Would you like to come sell homes for me for free? I've got a few that are nearing the marketing stage of development. I do property management also. Care to do that for free?

PS, the button on HAR is so you'll sign up to work with them as their client, not an offer to work for free.
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swimmerbabe11
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so the schedule a showing button, isn't for..scheduling a showing?

listing agents are working for free if I buy the house?
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Red Pear Realty said:

Nobody is telling you that you have to use a realtor. What they are telling you (once you tell them that you already have an agent) is that your agent needs to do the showing, not them (for free). I don't understand how anyone could be dense enough to think that someone else should work for them for free. Would you like to come sell homes for me for free? I've got a few that are nearing the marketing stage of development. I do property management also. Care to do that for free?

PS, the button on HAR is so you'll sign up to work with them as their client, not an offer to work for free.


But they aren't showing it for free. They agreed to sell the home for their client, for 3%. Want to sell the house? Show it to interested buyers.
swimmerbabe11
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My deal is.. I sell houses. That's all I do.
People make appointments to come see houses or walk in the door all the time that aren't "serious" buyers. I sell them a house anyway. I don't care where their realtor is, because where their realtor is doesn't change the fact that if they close on a home, I get paid. My job is to sell the house. If you won't show me the house, you must not want to sell it that bad.


It is unfathomable to me that the mindset is different for a listing agent.
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Yes, sellers typically agree to compensation for the sale side and the buy side agents. If you "have an agent but they can't show it", you are asking the sellers agent to do the buyers agents job for free.

The people who call and ask for free showings "but they have a realtor but she can't show it because she lives out of town" are not real buyers. I've done this a long time. This is why I charge $150 for showings. It weeds out the looky-loos real fast, and is a fair compensation for my time.

On that note, you would not believe the number of people who try to tour homes and ranches as a hobby or just because they are bored, and have no intention of buying. I don't know why they do it but they definitely do it.
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swimmerbabe11
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I'll show any house you want me to for $150 a pop and be over the moon if you send a client my way to see a home and never worry if you dont show up even once through the process. (that happens ALL the time, ESP with cultural buyers)
swimmerbabe11
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People come to models all the time for "decor inspiration" ...like Pinterest doesn't exist?

I feel like I've derailed this thread and I'm sorry for that..and if I've come off as combative.
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Back to jja'squestion…why in the world would you hire a real estate agent that lives out of town in the first place?!?
swimmerbabe11
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Because I'd like to either use that person, who is remote, will contribute commission back, and willdeal with the paperwork side for me...or not use a buyer's agent at all.
jja79
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I think it could be said you aren't using a buyer's agent.
swimmerbabe11
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to find the house, no.
to execute the purchase, yes.
MAS444
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Just seems you're making this way harder than it should be.
swimmerbabe11
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It should be pretty simple.
I am qualified to purchase a house.
I know what my area/price point/needs are.
I click the button to contact seller. I look at house.
I contact my agent who writes the offer and takes it from there.
I close on the house and seller makes over 10k for unlocking a door for me.


(I am not at all saying that's all agents do, im saying thats all im asking a listing agent to do for me)
jja79
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I'm not a Realtor but am a retired long time mortgage guy and I don't think that's how a buyer's agent works based on my experience. Maybe you should at least consider that your approach is a hindrance to reaching your desired outcome.
Dan Scott
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The last house I bought I called the listing agent and she showed me the house. My agent wasn't available and I wanted to see the house right then not wait another weekend. Listing agent showed me and I bought it. She got a nice commission check and so did my agent.

If I'm the seller, I pay the agent to help sell the house. I'd expect the agent to go show the house no matter who is interested. You're making over 10K so get your ass out there and sell.
Trucker 96
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If I'm a seller and found my agent wouldn't lift a finger for an interested party to see the house, I would consider finding a new agent
Medaggie
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I have bought and sold lots of house. I require very little hand holding. I have my own broker, inspector, handy man, contactors from HVAC to garage doors.

But man, "customers" now a days can be a pain and I would hate to be a buyer's agent. Weekends/nights are valuable esp if you have kids. How many ruined nights/weekends does it take before you start to think, this is not worth working with this buyer.

I know relatives who just like to spend weekends looking at homes and think they can get some amazing low ball offer to be accepted. If this is just a sport/hobby, they should just go to open houses.

I see both sides and I think it is completely fair for the buyer or seller agent to charge $100-150 per showing which cuts down on the weekend warriors.

I don't know of any other field that will give you more than 1 free consultation.
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Trucker 96 said:

If I'm a seller and found my agent wouldn't lift a finger for an interested party to see the house, I would consider finding a new agent


Why would you pay both your agent and the other agent that couldn't show your house?
Trucker 96
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Why would I pay someone to half-ass their attempt to sell my house?
Heineken-Ashi
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If only there was a company in Texas who offered full service representation and split half the commission with the buyer.
Trucker 96
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If they want to outline in the terms of the listing agreement what conditions are convenient for them to show my house, what conditions they will refuse to show my house, or if they want to charge a potential buyer (or me) to visit my house and then I can decide to agree to said terms or take my business elsewhere, then ok. At least it's transparent and I can decide to list with them or not. But if I'm giving someone an exclusive right to sell my house, then I want to know upfront what conditions they are going to be unwilling to show it.
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This thread has need officially HiJacked by Texags.
Heineken-Ashi
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SteveBott said:

This thread has need officially HiJacked by Texags.
And poor grammar/spelling
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Need=been. It's a Texags tradition
RikkiTikkaTagem
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So my FIL has his Texas real estate agent license but lives out of state. I'll give you the advice that I use (unfortunately have bought 5 houses over the past 14 years). We use him as a buying agent because he kicks back the 3% to us. We do enough research to feel good about what house to at least make an offer on. At some point during the option period, my fil will come in and inspect the house as well.

We find a house we like. We send him the link. He calls their agent and schedules the showing. Either the selling agent shows us the house or they come by and unlock it for us and they do something else while we're looking at it. I have never had an issue with the 50+ times we have looked at a home since 2014. The swelling agent understands he lives out of town and understands why we are using him and it works fine.

A simple call from your agent to the selling agent makes all of this way easier for you. They're also your buying agent so this is what they signed up for even if you have some deal worked out. A selling agent doesn't have to placate every rando who calls him/her to show a house. They'll definitely setup a showing though if another real estate agent calls them. It lets them know you are legit and serious.
 
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