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Evicting a family member

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This is a long one so buckle up.

My sister in law is a dead beat. She lives with my inlaws currently. Doesn't work and hasn't had a job since December 2015. She doesn't leave the house, doesn't drive anymore after letting her DL expire, and basically doesn't do anything except cook some meals for my inlaws from time to time and watches TV all day. She really hates my father in law (her step dad since she was 10) and doesn't really like my wife or I.

Early in 2023 my FIL went in for a Watchman procedure on his heart to reduce his stroke risk. The dr accidently nicked his femoral artery in the process. He nearly bled out on the operating table but survived (they gave him 24 units of blood) and was in the hospital for 2 months recovering. During that time he lost his job as the finance manager at the dealership he was working at so we ended up having to cover their bills for most of last year and this year.

Fast forward to this spring, we were tired of paying for a rental house for them, so we bought a new house for us and moved them into our old house. My MIL was retired and started working a part time job at the local YMCA to help make ends meet and my FIL finally found a new job as a finance manager at another dealership. That income combined with both of their Social Security was enough to cover their expenses and things have been going well for the last few months.

We found out this past sunday that my FIL was fired again. Honestly this is around the time the car business slows down, it was a smaller used dealer, and he was one of their biggest labor expenses. So we are back to covering most of their bills. My sister in law keeps coming up with excuses as to why she can't get a job. She's sick with some mythical illness, has leaky gut syndrome, is disabled, etc. She won't go see a doctor because she doesn't really buy into western medicine. So she doesn't really contribute anything to society IMO. We have been patient for a long time because we love my mother in law and don't want to put her out. But my MIL has also enabled this to occur for years.

Did I mention said sister in law is 48?

Anyways, I am wondering what my options are to evict my SIL from my house (this is all in Texas). The house, utilities, etc, are all in my name. The catch is we don't have a written lease and they don't pay rent or utilities (outside of the past 3 months).

I can still evict her right?
Is this something I should pay a lawyer to do?
I still have access to the house at all times as I keep one room there for an office when I need it.
p_bubel
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Have your MIL and FIL asked you to evict her?

If not, I'd do my best to ignore the situation and be prepared to evict her when the MIL and FIL pass.
burrito post
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They have not asked us to evict her and probably won't. I don't want to sell the house, but if we continue paying two sets of mortgages, bills, etc. I feel like that will be the final outcome.

My In laws really struggle to handle their own finances at times. My FIL didn't pay any taxes for well over 10 years and I have no idea how much he owes in personal loans. My MIL worked for churches for 20+ years and when she retired she was still only making $15 an hour so her SS doesn't cover much.
leighann
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Sounds like a tough situation, and everyone has been enabling your SIL for a while.
My advice would be to sell your old house, and your MIL and FIL make their own arrangements, with no help from you. Maybe more of them work to pay for an apartment or pickup odd jobs, but this doesn't have to be your problem or responsibility. If they choose to continue to support SIL, it's not your problem.
Bad luck happens sometimes, but your financial help has meant they didn't have to plan ahead, build an emergency fund, etc.
I would list the house for sale tomorrow, tell them all they need to be out in 30 days.
schwack schwack
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How does your wife feel about things?
1Aggie99
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Yikes... this sounds awful. Hopefully your wife found some kind of financial direction outside of the house! Sounds like some, at least SIL/FIL, are taking advantage of the situation. MIL may not be far behind.

I think I would sit down with my wife, deep dive finances, and develop a plan that allows you guys to continue living the lifestyle you like. After that, develop plan #2 which requires SIL/FIL/MIL to fund whatever gap exists or whatever you two deem appropriate. Then sit them all down and communicate your expectations and what happens to the house in the event they do not hold up their end. In writing, signed by all parties.

Ugly either way but if you are not careful, their issues become your issues quickly. Could just tell SIL she is no longer welcome in your house but FIL doesn't sound like a standup guy either. Tough conversations for sure but it's obviously bothering you to the point of seeking advice. It's festered long enough.
Captain Winky
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Sounds like you keep enabling all three of them and have never given them a reason to care. You keep bailing them out so they have no reason to not expect it. Kick them all to the curb and be done with the headache.
burrito post
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My wife is conflicted.

Ideally my MIL would get a divorce (she wants to), move out, let my FIL fend for himself, and have my SIL sort her own **** out away from me. But my MIL will not leave my SIL to fail or struggle. We even are open to my MIL living with us in our new place for awhile. We have the space for her set up and ready to go right now. But she won't leave my SIL.

My wife feels like she is a bad daughter sometimes because she hasn't done more for her mom. I have to explain that we have done more for them than many people could or even would.

My wife and I have made it very clear the them that when my inlaws pass, my SIL will not be our problem. She will be on her own and if that means she is homeless, that's on her.


I know I won't be evicting her anytime soon, but I just want to be prepared for when the time comes.
burrito post
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As a side note, my current neighborhood does not really do much for Halloween where my previous one went all out. Like have the city close down the street, full size candy bars all out and we were no exception. Our neighbors were really sad to hear we were moving away in part because of our Halloween block party.


My SIL is a very religious person which has been the source of a lot of friction. For example, she wouldn't be the maid of honor for my wife because we were "living in sin" prior to getting married (we shared an apartment). She also doesn't align with us politically on many things as a result. Anyways she absolutely hates Halloween as it is born of the devil according to her.

Since my neighbors are still going to have the Halloween block party I am going over this weekend to put up all of Halloween decorations (my MIL and FIL love the decorations). I've got inflatables, 12 ft skeleton, animatronics, blow molds, cut outs, lighting for the house and fog machines for the night of.





I know it doesn't improve the relationship with my SIL but I don't care.
TxAG#2011
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Tough situation, at least you are understanding. MIL/FIL trying to generate income after a serious medical event is one thing, but your SIL sitting on her ass while you are paying the bills is unacceptable and needs to be communicated immediately. You need to ask her to start forking over rent or else.
harrierdoc
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1. You and your wife have no moral responsibility to care for her able bodied family that have chosen to make poor financial decisions throughout their lives.
2. I understand your desire to help her parents, and would probably do the same.
3. I would tell her parents that you are selling the house they are living in, and tell them they can move in with you. Only them, not the SIL.
4. They will probably be forever thankful for you taking that burden off their hands and being the "bad guy".
TxAg20
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A lot of this type stuff happened in my mom's family. I swear there's an "enabler" gene that I, fortunately, did not get. The enablers have died off and the previously enabled are directionless and destitute, last I heard.

I don't know your wife, but it sounds like she is enabling her parents just like her parents are enabling your SIL. A few hours of counseling may go a long way in helping your wife see the situation a little more objectively.
Agilaw
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It's a tough situation, but man, I don't know about this suggestion. Once they start living with you, you are going to likely be faced with additional issues that will pop up and have an impact on the relationship between you and your wife. I think I would protect my relationship with my wife first. Maybe tell the in laws that you and your wife are selling the house and will assist with getting them into a one bedroom apartment when it sells, but you will only assist for a couple of months. That might force the sister in law to go get a job to get her own place. If the in laws let her in the one bedroom apartment, that will be on them. Some tough love needed here to help people do what they should already be doing. For the sister in law who likes to point out spiritual things - point her to 2 Thessalonians 3:6-15 - idleness/laziness, don't work don't eat, etc. I'm sure she will like that.
harrierdoc
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I agree that wouldn't be the ideal situation, but without that control, they will allow her to continue to live with them. If that's what they want to do, so be it, but don't financially help them. I'd bet the op's wife won't allow that to happen, though, so this is really the only answer to fix the situation. It won't be forever. The freeloader will have to find somewhere else to live, whether it is in a cheap apt, shacking up with some guy/gal that she trades favors for a place to live, in a shelter, or on the streets.
Matsui
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Tough spot. Keep us posted. Sounds like selling the house is the cleanest way. Not sure how you can make someone move out without getting attorney and cops involved
jopatura
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Is this a make or break you money wise or are you in a position where you can afford it but prefer not?

Honestly you are probably going to have to wait for the MIL to pass away. If you sell the house and MIL comes with you, there is a high high HIGH chance she's not going to be able to stand to see SIL on the streets and she comes too at some point. Or MIL refuses to move in without SIL and your wife still feels like she has to support them via rent somewhere else.

You can evict SIL now, but life gets a lot trickier if MIL and FIL continue to invite her back as a guest. There's not an easy way to ban her from entering the property - eviction doesn't really navigate that either.

The best thing to do would be to convince your wife that all three need to go and none of them need anymore support past what you've already provided.
Matsui
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And you have nothing in writing so I'd try to start over and get things in writing with an offiical renters agreement.
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Tell your MIL that you are selling the house but that she (and only she) can move in with y'all. Tell her you are not going to support the SIL in any way.

If she decides not to do it, then it's not your problem after you sell the house. You've done more than enough and are giving the MIL one last option before you (and your wife) should just wipe your hands clean of it all.
MAS444
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A lot of these recs are way easier said than actually done. Very tough situation. Personally, I'd much rather them not all be in my house.
SlickHairandlotsofmoney
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This story sounds almost exactly like what my wife's brother went through.

Eventually his in-laws divorced and left. The father in law landed a $200k/yr job and bought three new cars and a new house when he moved out. His wife's POS brother (who had a job and a $40k car) finally got his own place. His wife decided she wanted new boobs, so my BIL bought them for her. Then his wife decided she wanted a divorce so she could marry her boss, who she was already sleeping with.

My wife's brother is a smart, successful guy with a very big heart and loved unconditionally. That family exploited him for almost everything he had and now he's 42 and has to play catch up.
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