Pier and Beam vs. slab

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Geo78
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Question for the appraisal folks out there.

If you have two nearly identical houses next to each other, one pier & beam and the other slab in good shape....is there a discount to the value for pier & beam?
JBLHAG03
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Pier and beam would be a + not a -.
Geo78
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Why a plus for p&b, when I assume the slab had a significantly higher initial cost?
Waltonloads08
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repairs and adjustments are cheaper on pier and beam.
akaggie05
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You got it backwards... Slab is cheaper. There's a reason why almost all new construction and especially tract homes are on slabs... it's cheap.
Jay@AgsReward.com
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As a buyer, Pier and beam for sure. Not sure if the appraiser will make any adjustment or not for it however.

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Max06
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You got it backwards... Slab is cheaper. There's a reason why almost all new construction and especially tract homes are on slabs... it's cheap.


Slabs are cheaper to build. Not cheaper to fix.

If I was ever to build a house, it would probably have an slab that is at last 2x stronger/more reinforcement than industry standard. It's way better to pony up the extra money up front than have to deal with the headaches of foundation repairs later.
Geo78
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Thanks for the help guys!

Trying to buy a house for my mother-in-law in a very mixed development area.
akaggie05
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Slabs are cheaper to build. Not cheaper to fix.

If I was ever to build a house, it would probably have an slab that is at last 2x stronger/more reinforcement than industry standard. It's way better to pony up the extra money up front than have to deal with the headaches of foundation repairs later.

That's what I meant. I doubt that builders are thinking long-term about foundation repairs 15-20 years down the road. They want to go in and pour 200 slabs in a new subdivision and be done with it. If I ever build a house it will be P&B. Even with a reinforced slab, your plumbing is still down there just waiting to develop leaks that you can't get to without a jackhammer. Been through that nightmare once... hopefully never again.
JBLHAG03
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Slabs-on-grade move up and down with the soil expansion/contraction. Piers are either embedded in the bedrock or held in place by skim friction in deeper soils, so they are less prone to movement. It cost a lot more to drill the piers and form the grade beams than just pouring concrete on the ground.

I am the second owner of my P&B house, which was built in 1965, and is solid as a rock. Plus all my plumbing is now easily accessible in the crawlspace. My prior house was built in 2002 with a slab and had a ton of foundation problems. The builder told me that going in they plan for repairs on a certain percentage of houses, as it is less expensive to repair 10-20% of the houses than to do 100% correctly in the first place.

[This message has been edited by slschultz02 (edited 9/10/2013 1:49p).]
Yesterday
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P&B when done correctly is always better in my opinion, but i've known some houses where the builder did not hit bedrock and the house settled pretty badly.
rilloaggie
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I work for a engineering company that designs post tension, conventional rebar reinforced, and pier and beam slabs. We do engineering across the state and have over 350,000 homes on the ground, not including commercial structures. There is really no definite slab design that will work 100 % of the time given the huge variability of Texas soils.

Pier and beam has the benefit of having easy access to plumbing under the slab but also increases the probability of pest problems and radon exposure. The underside of the slab needs to be well vented and the piers must be drilled deep enough into bedrock or into undisturbed soil to prevent excess movement of the slab.

Traditional "floating" slabs are more popular due to the construction costs associated with drilling piers and the additional concrete to fill them. When properly reinforced, a slab on the ground is just as sturdy as a pier and beam home. The only negative is the cost of repairs to plumbing issues under slab. It is really an issue of whether or not it is worth the additional up front cost of a pier and beam foundation to avoid the possible costs of future plumbing repairs underslab. If plumbing is properly installed you should get several decades with no problems to contend with. IMHO a slab on the ground is going to work well for MOST homes, large, custom floor plans notwithstanding. Soil boring and good engineering should help make the best decision for you.
Diggity
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The builder told me that going in they plan for repairs on a certain percentage of houses, as it is less expensive to repair 10-20% of the houses than to do 100% correctly in the first place.


and you didn't fire the guy?
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