Not shooting the messenger, but would you mind saying something about the source of your information?saray said:
Anriel is straight and feels she has been overly-harrased by others on the team. This is the issue. And please don't shoot the messenger.
Captn_Ag05 said:
Shouldn't the coaching staff step in and prevent such situations?
Absolutely none and I am not taking out the pitchforks against Gary or staff. But, if the situation the poster described did arise, I hope, expect, and believe that the staff would step in. I'd be very surprised if they didn't once they were aware of the situation, which is why I am highly skeptical.Aggie1205 said:Captn_Ag05 said:
Shouldn't the coaching staff step in and prevent such situations?
Other than anonymously posted on here, what evidence is there that it's legit?
Good grief, whatever happened to boundaries?saray said:
Anriel is straight and feels she has been overly-harrased by others on the team. This is the issue.
I was told by members of the AD's office and by 12th Man executives. Whether you like this or not---agree or disagree---it should not be a surprise.Captn_Ag05 said:Absolutely none and I am not taking out the pitchforks against Gary or staff. But, if the situation the poster described did arise, I hope, expect, and believe that the staff would step in. I'd be very surprised if they didn't once they were aware of the situation.Aggie1205 said:Captn_Ag05 said:
Shouldn't the coaching staff step in and prevent such situations?
Other than anonymously posted on here, what evidence is there that it's legit?
The problem, of course, is that there is no way to know whether you're telling the truth. If true, I wouldn't be happy about other people in the ADs office or the TMF gossiping about it. Seems like it would be a violation of Anriel's privacy unless she wanted others to know.saray said:I was told by members of the AD's office and by 12th Man executives. Whether you like this or not---agree or disagree---it should not be a surprise.Captn_Ag05 said:Absolutely none and I am not taking out the pitchforks against Gary or staff. But, if the situation the poster described did arise, I hope, expect, and believe that the staff would step in. I'd be very surprised if they didn't once they were aware of the situation.Aggie1205 said:Captn_Ag05 said:
Shouldn't the coaching staff step in and prevent such situations?
Other than anonymously posted on here, what evidence is there that it's legit?
Aside from not knowing if ANY of it is true, the nature of the conduct being alleged is far from clear. So we don't even know what the "this" is which may or may not be true at all.rgleml said:
If this is true, then the offender(s) should be kicked off the team. At the very least they should be suspended for harassment of another player.
Or it could be that saray was really told something by the people cited, and someone in their gossip chain made it up out of whole cloth because they have some sort of grudge against Blair. Or they're projecting their own homophobia onto the team.Quote:
"You know, Texas A&M used to be a conservative university. It's lost all of its conservatism and it's renounced its traditions. It's really sad. My daughter went there, you know; she had horrible experiences with co-ed dorms and guys who spent the weekends in the rooms with girls, and all this kind of stuff went on there. It's just unbelievable."
I'm not sure what is true or not, but that doesn't mean the locker room culture of harassment was there or not. Once a culture is established, it is hard to shake off.Inca said:
Again, there are NO players currently on the roster that were here when Peyton Little was here.
I've been wondering what the appropriate flag would be. I usually don't flag anything, although I admit that I used to flag some of the posts about a player who played for a former rival.Inca said:
I wish TexAgs staff would clean up this thread!
I avoided a lot of the Murray/Allen threads on the Zoo, but it seems to me that there is a difference between speculating about reasons for transfers and dropping allegations of sexual harassment toward other members of the team that are disconnected to verifiable news items (e.g. the Kirk Merritt situation).Moderator said:
Removing this thread would need to be based on something more than what we've seen so far. IF, for the sake of discussion (and remember this forum exists for the purpose of discussion), our Football QB1 was entertaining a transfer option out of our program -- do you suppose we would shut down threads speculating on why that was happening? We allow posters to discuss this sort of thing -- the Murray/Allen years proved as much.
Staff: Did the Murray/Allen controversy include unsubstantiated allegations of homosexual harassment of a straight player by gay teammates?Moderator said:
Removing this thread would need to be based on something more than what we've seen so far. IF, for the sake of discussion (and remember this forum exists for the purpose of discussion), our Football QB1 was entertaining a transfer option out of our program -- do you suppose we would shut down threads speculating on why that was happening? We allow posters to discuss this sort of thing -- the Murray/Allen years proved as much.
I don't recall this specific kind of rumor during the Standish and Little transfers, which have been mentioned in the thread. I do remember hearing rumors about cliques on the team based on race, and speculations based on "why are the white girls transferring?" I found it plausible that the cliques existed and affected chemistry. My sense is that if that was a problem, the team grew out of it for the most part. But in those cases it still seemed to me that the obvious reasons were basketball reasons: disagreements about the player's role on the team.Belton Ag said:
I'd like to clarify my initial response a bit. I don't necessarily believe the rumor, it's somewhat plausible I guess but not really worth serious speculation.
I thought it was interesting that this same exact rumor continues to pop up when we see transfers out of the program, which is why I mentioned the two previous transfers. I don't know what that says about us or the program, but it was noteworthy to me.
I will say that, knowing what I know about our administration and being somewhat close to one of our women's programs on campus and getting a glimpse behind the scenes, I'd be shocked that anyone officially connected to the athletic department or 12th Man Foundation would talk about this.
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I'd venture that it says we have at least one major recruiting rival with an interest in promoting this kind of rumor to parents of recruits. And we have a subset of our community that is culturally susceptible to the idea of some sort of gay conspiracy in women's sports.