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Power line easements - legal advice?

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chris1515
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My family has some land that is slated to be the recipient of a glorious new gigantic power line (757kv) to deliver electricity to the Permian basin.

We've received several letters from various law firms offering their services.

What are some of the things we should be looking at to protect the land and interests and maximize whatever compensation we might get?

Should we get a lawyer? If so, any suggestions? What should you look for in an attorney for something like this?

My view is to ignore it and make Oncor go to court and use eminent domain to get the access. I don't even know if that's how this process would even work…

A neighbor has a 200 acre property that will be almost perfectly bisected by the line, and the land is a good candidate for subdivision, which I assume would be completely ruined for future development. What type of compensation should they be pursuing? Is the compensation only based on the land covered in the easement, or the entire parcel?
Brush Country Ag
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Hire an eminent domain attorney. This is not something you want to tackle on your own. And he should be able to get you more money.
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I don't know that I would ignore it. I would at least start discussing some of the terms of the easement

I recently wrapped up an electrical distribution easement that ran the full highway frontage of one of my businesses. Was not a big line like you are dealing with. The easements will always be overburdensome and skewed in favor of the the grantee and the intitial offer is usually peanuts. People on the left and right of me took the intial offer.

I first started on the terms of the easement and avoided any talk of compensation. I suggested 19 additions/deletions/modifications to the original agreement. They (eventually) fully agreed to 17 of them, one was partially agreed on, and one they didn't accept at all. I wound up getting almost 8 times the original offer. I think I could have gotten more had we gone to trial but then I would have had the legal costs that go along with that. My strongest argument for more money sort of fell apart the more I looked into it and I felt sure the grantee's attorney would pick up on it at trial.

If you do not accept the original offer, they will send you a final offer and you have something like 14 days to accept or reject and if you do nothing or reject it, then you will have to meet with some special commissioners who will determine a value. You cannot deal with easement terms at that hearing. If you do not like what the commissioners come up with as to value, you can go to trial and there both terms and value can come into play. Since I would assume you would have an attorney for the trial, there is no point in paying him or her to clean up the easement agreement at trial. That is why I would hammer on that aspect of it at the beginning, get the easy stuff dealt with.

But I think you should talk to an attorney who deals with easements and get his or her input. Sounds like the buzzards were already on the poles if they contacted you first! Like the other landowner you mentioned, the largest amount of the payment would likely be for damages to the remainder of the property, moreso than the dirt within the easement. Also worth looking into would be any setback requirements under the National Electric Safety Code which can impact what you can do on your property adjacent to the easement. You can wind up with restrictions within the easement as well as so many feet outside the easement. It would be helpful for that landowner's case if he or she had done anything with regard to considering development of a subdivision. Emails or correspondence with county officials about the permitting process, communication with engineers or surveyors, anything to help prove up he was headed in that direction.

I don't know how many feet of easement will be crossing your property but unless it is just a tiny corner, you need an attorney involved.
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Ha. We just counter offered the minimum 20' easement and required it to run along a fence and to a remote barn. They asked for the maximum easement, but surprisingly went with our counter. Nothing big was in the plans near that property.
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chris1515 said:

My family has some land that is slated to be the recipient of a glorious new gigantic power line (757kv) to deliver electricity to the Permian basin.

We've received several letters from various law firms offering their services.

What are some of the things we should be looking at to protect the land and interests and maximize whatever compensation we might get?

Should we get a lawyer? If so, any suggestions? What should you look for in an attorney for something like this?

My view is to ignore it and make Oncor go to court and use eminent domain to get the access. I don't even know if that's how this process would even work…

A neighbor has a 200 acre property that will be almost perfectly bisected by the line, and the land is a good candidate for subdivision, which I assume would be completely ruined for future development. What type of compensation should they be pursuing? Is the compensation only based on the land covered in the easement, or the entire parcel?

I am an attorney and just lost about 4 acres due to the water sewer authority (represented by my firm and law partner) using eminent domain to take the land. The are adding 35 feet to the reservoir behind my house.

I did not hire an attorney because it is a relatively straightforward process (and I'm an attorney). I also could not realistically "fight" the WSA since they are a good client of my firm. I'm also in Rotary and friends with the president of the WSA.

Basically, the process was this: They had an appraiser and sent a ridiculously low offer. I hired an appraiser who had a much higher appraisal, skewed with everything in my favor. In the end we split the baby and settled for exactly the average between the two appraisals. (This is also mostly what happens in court in my experience - "split the baby")

The problem I had is the eminent domain is actually going to improve the value of my property. They have already cleared the land. I sit on a very steep hill and my views now are phenomenal. Plus I will have deep water and am only one of about 4 homes with access to the reservoir. The downside for me was there were stream and other buffers that now came up to, and included, my house and yard. A literal reading of the rules, regulations and buffers would be that I could not drink alcohol in my house or have any pets. I created a bubble where that was excluded and grandfathered into the agreement we came up with.

I had two neighbors affected. One just said that he was going to follow me and do whatever I ended up doing. He of course knew about my obvious conflicts of interest. The other neighbor fought it tooth and nail and hired an attorney to take it to court. He got tired of paying the legal fees and eventually settled. In the end, he got more per acre, but I'm not sure he came out ahead financially. He had to pay the attorney and got several appraisals. Also, I received my money a year or so before he did. If you consider the time value of money - I put mine in the stock market - I most certainly came out way ahead of him.

I am in Georgia, so this is not legal advice for your situation. In Georgia, you not only get the value of the land taken, but also compensation for the impact on the remainder of your land. As I said earlier, the negative impacts on my remainder were vastly outweighed by the benefits. I think in your situation, the situation is reversed. You need to get your appraiser to focus on this.

I think my first hire would be on a bad ass, experienced appraiser who testifies in court, etc... I know these guys since I am an attorney, so you may not be able to do that without hiring an attorney first. The thing I would be wary of is these attorneys will bill you by the hour and have no incentive to settle. So be careful in your selection there.

You want an attorney to review any settlement before you sign anything. As above, you need to think about things you may need to add to the settlement agreement that you may not think about.

The power company or whomever has no incentive to go to court. You will likely come out ahead financially by settling rather than going to court, but that's your call and it depends on your situation.

An attorney I used to know (RIP) had this sign in his waiting room: Pigs get fat, hogs get slaughtered.

Fight, but don't be boneheaded about it.

Again, not intended to be legal advice, I'm in Georgia, different laws, don't know all your facts, blah, blah, blah.

I also ran all my stuff through AI and it had great suggestions - but again, I'm a lawyer. It helped me pick out flaws in their appraisal. I would not rely solely on AI.
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You can get paid for ROW in several ways. You can get paid for granting the easement and paid for damages. You want to maximize damage payment because it isn't taxed.

Texas GLO has a payment schedule for every imaginable easement. You won't get the same money, but it will give you some ballpark figures.

You want the easement to be ONLY for their stated purpose. If they are putting in a power line, that's all they get. If you are careless, they get total control of that 50' strip. Then they could add other pipelines, a fiber optic line, etc - all for free.

Get a decent attorney. It's a small job for the document and basic negotiating.
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Don't ignore it. This is a financial negotiation now that you find yourself in. They will ultimate get access to the land via eminent domain and the calculation from that process is quite a bit lower than what you can negotiate. Their project likely costs tens of millions of dollars and the longer this process takes will cost them a significant amount of money in terms of supply chain, project completion, etc. Lawyers could help, but their fee will ultimately reduce how much money you get.

Not financial advice, but what ever they offer you, I'd counter back with double that amount and don't be surprised when they agree to take something very close to your counter offer.
QuatroLong
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how is is not a conflict of interest that your law firm represented an entity that is taking land away from you?
GeorgiAg
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QuatroLong said:

how is is not a conflict of interest that your law firm represented an entity that is taking land away from you?

It is a HUGE conflict of interest. But I waived it and they waived it. If I had fought and not settled, it my law partner would have had to give it to another firm. But I never would have done that - piss off our client, my law partners, friends, etc.. And they were reasonable and so was I, so no problem. We just split the two appraisals, which as I said, is what must judges, arbitrators, etc. do anyway.
QuatroLong
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Makes sense. Lawyers taking a practical and reasonable approach…that's a breath of a fresh air.
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I have a friend who used to work on the utility side of these things purchasing easements. His advice was wait until they provide their "last and final offer". Add $30k to that, and they will usually settle. The $30k is usually what it costs for the utility has to go to condemnation.

Otherwise, hire a lawyer. Don't ever take the first offer

Also, make sure to keep a separate tally for damages. Someone I know went through this recently. He complained that he thought the offer on the land was low because it would screw up the drainage off his cultivated field (this was for a road widening). Once they heard that, they countered and said they had a budget to maintain for "land" but something like changes in drainage fell under "damages" and they could compensate him more for that. Once they added that in, he got what he wanted.
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