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Capital One cheating customers out of interest?

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TXTransplant
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/tylerroush/2025/01/14/us-accuses-capital-one-of-cheating-savings-account-holders-out-of-2-billion-in-interests/

Interesting to me because I was a customer who originally had one of the 360 savings accounts, going back well over 10 years. Mine was actually called a 360 Money Market account.

One day I noticed the option for the 360 Performance Savings (I think it popped up as an "ad" when I logged into my account) and that it had a higher interest rate. So I opened a new account and moved my money. But I was annoyed they didn't just increase the interest rate on the account I already had.

I made the change back in early 2020, when interest rates first started going back up. I don't think I lost out on much interest, but I thought the change was pretty shady.
gabehcoud
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Yeah I read this this yesterday & they got me as a former ING user. Fortunately it was the account that's only funded to pay off the monthly mortgage, so I didn't miss out on a ton. The larger savings account is a Performance 360. Still shady as hell & pisses me off.
sellthefarm
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They got me on this a couple of years ago....I think it cost me about 6 months of increased interest earnings. I happened to check the account information on the app and noticed the interest rate had stopped climbing. I was able to set up the other account and roll it over pretty easily but it was pretty frustrating. Cost me a few thousand I bet.
Ag13
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I got caught up in this for a few months before realizing what had happened when I started to notice there was hardly any interest coming into my savings account. Very deceptive by Capital One and there's no excuse for why they couldn't have just moved customer money over to the new accounts automatically. I even called to ask why not just make it an easy transfer and they said you had to open a new account and transfer over manually. Functionally, there's no difference between the old accounts and the new accounts - just how much interest they are giving out.
jja79
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Are there any Capital One locations open any more?
Shelton98
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I know there's one in Nederland because I just drove by it.
jja79
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I saw one of their cafe places here in Scottsdale recently and it looked like if you want account information you have to talk to the guy making coffee. I guess they're still doing lots of business because they're spending a lot on advertising.
Hanrahan
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Yeah I remember noticing this one day and was pissed that I had to open the new account and transfer money over. Can't wait to get my check for $12.32 for the missing thousands in interest five years from now!
double aught
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Same story for me. Had the savings account since it was ING. And it took me longer than it should have to realize that Capital One had a different savings account with a way higher rate.

Pretty annoying when you think about it. They didn't have any issue dropping the rate as the fed did (It initially was getting 5%+ years and years ago). But then they just left it low even as rates went back up.
topher06
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They should be like Bank of America and just screw over everyone equally.
Maroon Elephant
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One of the slimiest, low life companies out there. Don't be surprised when they screw you, be shocked when they don't. Cap One is pure scum, just like BofA.
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Proposition Joe
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Capital One accounts have had an outage going on 36 hours now (mainly business accounts, but apparently some personal as well). Can't see accounts, payments not being processed, payroll misses, etc...

They are labeling it as a "tech issue with one of our vendors".

CSR's basically admitting they have no idea when it will be fixed, based on the comments some people have heard it might not be fixed until next week.

https://downdetector.com/status/capital-one/

Concerning that a major bank can't give customers a timetable when they will have access to their funds.
TXTransplant
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I got an email about that. Thought it was curious because a month or two ago, I got an email that bill pay was going to have a scheduled outage during this same time. I actually scheduled my property tax payments a few days early to make sure they went out before the outage started.

I wonder if the "scheduled outage" caused some sort of problem/unplanned situation.
Proposition Joe
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Apparently related to outages at FIS data centers.

Outages happen, but for a major bank to be down for 2 days is extremely concerning.
Ag13
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Also caught up in this. Maybe I should switch banks
Ol Jock 99
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I was with ING since the early 00s (maybe even late 90s...I forget) and forced into CapOne. I got a notice in March 2023 about the new "performance" savings and opened one. The appropriate interest rates, which are significantly higher than the old savings (I still have a small amount there too), have paid like clockwork.

Where is the issue?
Ag13
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Ol Jock 99 said:

I was with ING since the early 00s (maybe even late 90s...I forget) and forced into CapOne. I got a notice in March 2023 about the new "performance" savings and opened one. The appropriate interest rates, which are significantly higher than the old savings (I still have a small amount there too), have paid like clockwork.

Where is the issue?
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/capital-one-cfpb-lawsuit-savings-account-rates/

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But at the same time, some banks haven't boosted rates on their savings accounts, creating a gap between low-and top-paying accounts, similar to that of Capital One's two offerings. According to the CFPB, Capital One marketed the products similarly to obscure their distinction and forbade employees "from proactively telling" those with 360 Savings accounts about the higher-paying 360 Performance Savings, the agency said.

"Capital One did not specifically notify 360 Savings account holders about the new product, and instead worked to keep them in the dark about these better-paying accounts," the CFPB said in a statement. The lawsuit comes at a time when savers have benefitted from the Federal Reserve's decision to ratchet interest rates to fight soaring inflation, which allowed banks to roll out high-interest savings accounts after years of meager rates.

If an email or letter got sent, I missed it. When I opened a Capital One savings account it was intended to be a HYSA. They changed the structure with little notice (and little reason) to make the type of account I had be frozen in interest rates right as interest rates began rising. The burden was fully on the customers to know about the switch, open a new account, and transfer assets.

Capital One pretty clearly put up roadblocks to this with their marketing scheme and lack of proper notice. I'm glad you saw this email/letter, but clearly a lot of people did not - to the tune of $2 billion in lost interest payments per the CFPB lawsuit.

There was no reason they could not have automatically converted everyone's account over to the new structure. I also do not see the reason why the change in structure was done at all.
El Chupacabra
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Pulled my cash from them a long time ago...dumped into Vanguard...whatever MMF Vanguard had it in was paying way more than Cap1 anyway.
TXTransplant
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This. My original account was a money market and it was offered as the high interest savings option. Until one day it wasn't.

I never got a letter or email. I did get an "ad" about the 360 performance account when I logged into my account one day. When I did a little digging and saw that interest rate was higher (and the one on my account had dropped really low), I opened the new account and moved my money. I remember asking the person on the phone when I opened the new account why my existing one wasn't just converted over. Got a non-answer, of course.

It was a shady change. Even if they wanted to create a new product, they should have grandfathered the existing HYSAs over.
The Collective
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I was caught up in the technical issue with them this past week. My payroll date is technically Friday - it usually posts on Thursday morning. The deposit didn't show up in my account until Saturday afternoon. There was no issue processing an ACH to pay my insurance (this is pulled from the insurance side, not sent by Cap One). Cap One also processed my car payment on Friday. I found that slightly annoying, but at the same time, I get it.

The technical issue is concerning, but it's the first time I've experienced an issue with them. I imagine that created quite a few problems for folks though, and they will probably lose customers.
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