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aggiebq02
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Bajan
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Took it, good luck!
DAM
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This sounds interesting. I assume it's mainly focusing on US companies which are non compliant, right?

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aggiebq02
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htxag09
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Took the survey.

I'm interested but genuine question... If your main selling point is taking action and getting paid half, $1,500, for every violation, why would I pay for the app?

Seems like a red flag of "hey look we can get you paid" but just a bait and switch to paying a monthly fee like every spam calling app out there.....
Proposition Joe
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Took the survey.

As a "free" app, I'd be willing to hand over access to my phone and data and allow you to take a 50% cut of any potential settlements. However if I didn't see any settlements within a year I'd likely just remove the app.

To pay for such an app? Unlikely. I could probably make more of a case that, if the likelihood of actually receiving money from any of these fines is even remotely likely that you should be paying people to host the app.
aggiebq02
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htxag09
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aggiebq02 said:

  • No upfront costs - we only get paid if you do

  • I'd suggest taking this out of your OP....

    You may be referring specifically to the legal side and no upfront lawyer costs. But definitely seems like a bait and switch when I read no upfront costs then see a monthly payment to use the app.
    Diggity
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    jtraggie99
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    There was a guy in McKinney who was doing something similar, but basically teaching people how to go after these companies. Essentially trying to track down who the actual owners are of the companies making the calls, and then threatening to sue if they don't agree to settle out of court for a smaller amount than the fines. I had heard about him and one of the local DFW news stations did a story on him. This was a few years ago.

    If your app actually does the legwork and gets results, not a bad idea.
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    aggiebq02
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    Diggity
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    seems like you could leave the heavy lifting of spam blocking to other apps and carve out a niche of perusing the violators directly.

    it sounds like a lot of the expense on the front end is for features that already exist (many included by the carrier).

    why not focus on the unique aspect of the service and drop the monthly charges?
    aggiebq02
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    Diggity
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    I don't think I pay extra for Scam Shield. There might be a premium version, but the one I get for free seems to work fine.

    it seems like a simple enough action for the user to "report" an incoming spam message to your app, without all the AI nonsense.

    If you're married to the idea of the extra services, could you not make them part of the "premium service" and make the spam reporting part of a "free" version?
    Proposition Joe
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    Full disclosure I am overly critical and often times don't see the future use of technology/apps - I think I told Diggity 20 years ago that I didn't see Youtube and low res videos taking off.

    That being said..., a few scattershot points:

    1) Consumers don't care who you have to pay. The why isn't important to them, only the $$$ is.

    2) Is this a call screening service, an anti-spoofing app, or both? If it's a screening service, can you charge less than a person in the Phillipines I can pay $5 to screen?

    3) You seem to be promoting it as a "make $1000 going after these guys -- we'll do the legwork", but then seem to imply that 99% of the value of the app will be in anti-spam. If it's the latter, you are going to be very hard-pressed to find anyone willing to pay a subscription fee and just hope your product works better than the free products.

    4) What do you think the monthly $$$ value of your app is to a non-business user? As mentioned before, business users can get a virtual screener/secretary for cheap (that also handles a lot of other tasks), so if your target is the regular Joe... at this point how many regular Joe's are picking up the phone if it's a number they don't know?

    5) If you do prove that consumers are willing to pay, what will keep the service providers from offering their own service for free?

    6) Would customers be constantly updated on the legal status of their cases for each and every number? Would they just have to trust that if there's eventually a winner in there that you'll let them know? If you actually are able to get funds? A year+ later? It's a nice carrot on a stick to get people onboard, but the carrot is a lottery ticket at best it sounds like.

    7) I think what it boils down to is that it's a major problem, but it's also simply an annoyance -- and people aren't going to pay $60 a year to maybe have that annoyance lessened but likely not eradicated... They'll wait until some kind of legislation forces the carriers to do so - which I have to assume is coming - as with anything it's just gonna take a Congressman to get his number spoofed and embarrassed somehow. So to go along with #6 above, the consumer has to hope the company pays out AND is not rendered obsolete over the course of a year.


    With the increase in data breaches and identify fraud, giving a new company complete access to your phone and every single incoming call with just the hope that it will lessen an annoyance... and having to pay for it to boot? Just doesn't seem like it would have enough signups for any consumer to have confidence that they'll actually have a chance at a lottery ticket, much less get the money from one.

    I'd say unless you are free, or free with ads, you won't get enough signups.
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    medag13
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