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FedNow, the CBDC

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The Federal Reserve said Wednesday it will launch its long-awaited instant payment service FedNow in July.

The instant payment network will settle payments in seconds, with the capability to support consumer-to-consumer, consumer-to-merchant, merchant-to-merchant, and bank-to-bank transactions.

"With the FedNow Service, the Federal Reserve is creating a leading-edge payments system that is resilient, adaptive, and accessible," said Tom Barkin, president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Richmond and the FedNow Program's executive sponsor.

"The launch reflects an important milestone in the journey to help financial institutions serve customer needs for instant payments to better support nearly every aspect of our economy."

According to the Fed, a mix of banks of all sizes, including the largest processors and the U.S. Treasury, are on board. The central bank is continuing to speak with financial institutions and service providers to test the program ahead of its implementation.

"With the launch drawing near, we urge financial institutions and their industry partners to move full steam ahead with preparations to join the FedNow Service," said Ken Montgomery, first vice president of the Federal Reserve Bank of Boston and FedNow program executive.

Montgomery noted availability of the service is just the beginning, and growing the network of participating financial institutions will be key to increasing the availability of instant payments for consumers and businesses across the country.

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The Fed maintains making funds immediately available will help Americans living paycheck to paycheck or small businesses with cash flow constraints by avoiding late payment fees and freeing up working capital to finance growth.

Analysts say FedNow could also cut demand for payday loans as consumers won't have to wait for a check to clear. For businesses, there could also be upside for better paying suppliers on time, and businesses could embrace it as a less costly, and more certain, way to accept consumer payments.

Fed Governor Michelle Bowman said last year that FedNow, which will enable consumers and businesses to send payments instantly, could offer some of the same benefits as a central bank digital currency.

The Fed's years-long project to stand up an instant payments system, FedNow, will finally be launched later this year.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/federal-reserve-to-launch-instant-payment-service-fednow-in-july-210022218.html

Banking crisis, CBDC launch. Like ****ign clockwork.
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Time to press our legislators to make laws proctecting voters from ideological or politically motivated use restrictions by FEDNOW
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jagvocate said:

Time to press our legislators to make laws proctecting voters from ideological or politically motivated use restrictions by FEDNOW
Our State reps are a bunch of ****s and will fall in line. Worth trying though. We should encourage them to fill the Texas Depository with ****loads of gold so we could create our own currency should we opt to split from the Fed.
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I thought all the CBDC talk was about a digital US dollar similar to how crypto works, in that it's fully traceable and not just a point to point transaction of funds. Is this that, or is this just a new point to point payment system? If it's just a payment system, how is it different than what we have now from a consumer protection standpoint?
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Its the beginning. Small steps to "help the poor". Notice how it's being pitched.
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Imo, we are talking about a new and independent currency that will be peeled off and eventually detached from USD. The old USD will be dumped and we will forced to shift to an entirely new and similarly named currency. For example, look at what happened in Venezuela with the Bolivar and the new Bolivar fuerte. Same deal,

It will start out 1:1 and then the USD will get dumped in favor of the new currency starting with CBDC and trickling down to the new digital dollar. Right now we've got nothing to do with CBDC but the idea is that it will trickle down to the end user.

Think of it like the swap from original CocaCola to New Coke. People b****ed but they didn't have a choice. Original Coke was simply phased out. People didn't have a choice.

That's what will likely happen here.

So when people say 'the USD as paper notes or otherwise is used all over the world ... it will always have value and it ain't going anywhere.'

Well ... maybe not.

jagvocate
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If the current dollar tanks won't people be able to use them to pay off mortgages?
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Have considered this issue.

Best guess is that large corps will start paying employees in CBDC / digital dollar and mortgage services will start accepting payment in digital dollar. Perhaps offering some sort of financial incentive to pay in their preferred currency similar to a cash price to avoid CC fees.

In any event some scheme will be organized that makes it advantageous to pay major transactions in CBDC / digital dollar.

Next they'll be some sort of incident. Some sort of crisis. Maybe some sort of cybersecurity issue, maybe on the basis of preventing money laundering or terrorism ... you know... standard patriot act stuff. Or maybe it will be touted as the only way to combat 'BRICS from destroying to global economy.'

"Currency stability in our time!," will be the slogan of the day.

Finally they'll roll out an omnibus bill to mandate payment in CBDC / digital dollar starting at a date certain. Then they'll be a mad rush with holdouts shifting to the new payment terms before the deadline. There will be no alternative option.

Those who resist will be subject to a truncated default and foreclosure process. If you are good, .gov might lease back your house to you on semi-favorable terms, but maybe not.

Sounds like dystopian sci-fi ... but maybe not. So good luck and godspeed to all.
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...and to get paid with digital currency you must:
1. Identify correctly on social matters
2. Get the vaccine

I thought I would see the day, but never imagined this!
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Holy *****

Fed now has nothing to do with a digital dollar.

It is the FEDs response to RTP by the clearing house. Which is controlled by a consortium of the largest banks. Which could shutout community banks.

Stop fear mongering.
jamey
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So the Fed is officially an ATM
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So FedNow, along with "systemically risky" bank bailouts will result in far greater demand for money in "too big to fail" banks.

This will push consumer to move majority of banking into the largest banks and minimize risk at smaller banks.

Success!
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jamey said:

So the Fed is officially an ATM
You just now figuring this out?
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Swift 2.0?
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Adverse Event said:



So FedNow, along with "systemically risky" bank bailouts will result in far greater demand for money in "too big to fail" banks.

This will push consumer to move majority of banking into the largest banks and minimize risk at smaller banks.

Success!

Are there many consumers with more cash in banks than is covered by FDIC insurance? Why is cash in smaller banks suddenly at risk for most depositors?
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Quote:

Are there many consumers with more cash in banks than is covered by FDIC insurance?


yes. many businesses fall in this category.

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Why is cash in smaller banks suddenly at risk for most depositors?


because the banks are insolvent due to duration mismatch of bonds and/or mortgage backed securities. and the government is picking who to backstop.



in other words, if you are at a bank that is deemed too big to fail, your deposits are fully insured. if you are at a smaller bank, you are an unsecured creditor.
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SF2004 said:

Holy *****

Fed now has nothing to do with a digital dollar.

It is the FEDs response to RTP by the clearing house. Which is controlled by a consortium of the largest banks. Which could shutout community banks.

Stop fear mongering.
Wonder who controls the FED.
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TTUArmy
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What is Cypherium?
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ac04 said:

many businesses fall in this category.




in other words, if you are at a bank that is deemed too big to fail, your deposits are fully insured. if you are at a smaller bank, you are an unsecured creditor.


To your first response, I understand businesses can have over $250k in cash. They should have to pay if they want insurance over $250k. For regular consumers do you think there are many people with over that amount of cash in a bank?

For your second point, we'd all be better off without the hyperbole. Smaller banks aren't without backstop, unless they aren't FDIC insured banks.
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there are enough north of $250k to cause bank runs for sure.

it's not hyperbole, i'm talking about a backstop past the FDIC insurance. right now the big banks are much better protected. did you watch the video?
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aggiebq03+
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ac04 said:

there are enough north of $250k to cause bank runs for sure.

it's not hyperbole, i'm talking about a backstop past the FDIC insurance. right now the big banks are much better protected. did you watch the video?

Words have meaning. Your revised statement isn't hyperbole, your first one still is. If that's what you meant, it's what you should have said.

I agree with your revised statement. Though think in the long run it's a terrible thing any time the incentive to properly evaluate risk is removed from the market.
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ac04 said:


Unintended consequences (or were they?) of Fed picking winners and losers. Now we are going to get money centralized into a few banks.

Great job guys.
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SF2004 said:

Holy *****

Fed now has nothing to do with a digital dollar.

It is the FEDs response to RTP by the clearing house. Which is controlled by a consortium of the largest banks. Which could shutout community banks.

Stop fear mongering.
Incrementalism.

Besides, they've already announced they are going to roll out CBDC. You damn sure better be afraid of this.
ac04
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you asked about deposits greater than FDIC so that's what i was addressing. will connect the dots more clearly next time so there's no confusion. either way the punchline is that small and medium banks are in big trouble.
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Reminds me of the Star Wars "Bad Batch" show.

"Trade your Republic credits for Imperial credits with a simple citizen registration!"
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What bitcoin’s detractors don’t understand is monetary economics, computer science, software engineering, network protocols, and electrical systems.

It ain't much, but it's honest Proof of Work.
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What bitcoin’s detractors don’t understand is monetary economics, computer science, software engineering, network protocols, and electrical systems.

It ain't much, but it's honest Proof of Work.
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Simultaneoutsly, the government could get CoinBase shut down so anyone with crypto in that platform needs to get it out. GET YOUR OWN WALLET.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/crypto-faces-legal-reckoning-as-sec-prepares-action-against-coinbase-e4c95bf3?st=wl05pjb4rimp2u2&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink

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The SEC notified Coinbase that it plans to sue the firm for allegedly violating a range of investor-protection laws, the firm said this week. An eventual SEC lawsuit against the largest U.S. crypto exchange could help determine the future shape of the business of exchanging dollars for digital tokens such as bitcoin, ether or polkadot.
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Now, the SEC is preparing to test Mr. Gensler's view in court. While a lawsuit could still be many months awayor averted entirelythe formal process that began this week could potentially end in a court's ordering Coinbase to shutter or restructure significant parts of its business in the U.S.
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On Tuesday, President Biden's annual economic report to Congress included a 35-page section focused heavily on crypto's risks to investors and the industry's noncompliance with regulations. "Crypto assets currently do not offer widespread economic benefits," the report said. "They are largely speculative investment vehicles."
Laying the groundwork for CBDC. My BTC is going to be black market.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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Should rebrand to FedNow!

Exclamation point to give it a little kick.
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Argentina about to collapse ... again.
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It looks like China is starting to call in loans on countries whose economies are already vulnerable.

In a short amount of time, the countries of the world will be forced to choose between BRICS or CBDC.

We may very well have a situation where the EU and USD merge at 1:1 in preparation for further consolidation of global currencies.

**** is about to get crazy, imo.
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