What country if you don't mind me asking?
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The Dutch I worked with considered debate a sport. Meetings would extend as we went round and round on some minor issue. It was fun for them and not taken personally. Just spirited debate.
fightingfarmer09 said:YouBet said:Kindly share your opinion so that I can proceed with my next opinion.fightingfarmer09 said:evestor1 said:
I work for a European company. I often laugh at the different attitude and demeanor of our people overseas. Few examples:
1. Email Americans at 3am CST and say "I need this by 9am today" for items that take three days to produce. When you say "i need a few days" they respond with "Please complete asap, but i do not need it for 5 days." We do this at least twice per month.
2. Tell Americans that they do not get holidays off and should take PTO. Neglecting that their benefits package is 40 PTO days and USA is 15 PTO + 7 Holiday.
3. All video calls have presentations ... our USA video calls have zero presentations within internal meetings.
4. Ask about getting individual raises and bonuses on company-wide state of union calls. I am talking a few hundred people and "Oliver wants to know when he will be getting an increase in salary." or "When do i get my Christmas Bonus" - only 10% of the company is eligible for incentive pay...and they allow public questioning over it. Happens on all company wide calls...never upsets the managment.
What do your foreign companies and co-workers do that make you confused.
My favorite is in the EU (particularly Germans) will hound you to death about a critical project which they will insist that you work insanely fast to meet a crazy deadline. Then once it's complete and needs to ship (requiring their approval) they have disappeared on some 2-3 week vacation without notifying you. So the rush project now sits for a month.
South Americans will filibuster themselves stretching a 30 min call into 3 hours.
Indians…not worth the perma ban.
Commas instead of decimals.
F the metric system.
We are owned by an Indian based company.
Common company arguments involve pay because they believe we should be able to hire anyone we want for about $5-6/hr and anything more than that is robbery. Leads to major moral problems.
Our legal teams will spend months arguing with venders about contracts trying to get pointless concessions to the point where the vender will just walk away.
Constant WhatsApp messages about how unsafe, dirty and terrible America is despite wanting to go to the mall to shop on every business trip here.
Going to stop there.
I believe anyone who has worked retail where negotiations take place (cars, real estate) will agree that the "average" Indian consumer is not happy unless he/she has screwed over the other party.Ol_Ag_02 said:fightingfarmer09 said:YouBet said:Kindly share your opinion so that I can proceed with my next opinion.fightingfarmer09 said:evestor1 said:
I work for a European company. I often laugh at the different attitude and demeanor of our people overseas. Few examples:
1. Email Americans at 3am CST and say "I need this by 9am today" for items that take three days to produce. When you say "i need a few days" they respond with "Please complete asap, but i do not need it for 5 days." We do this at least twice per month.
2. Tell Americans that they do not get holidays off and should take PTO. Neglecting that their benefits package is 40 PTO days and USA is 15 PTO + 7 Holiday.
3. All video calls have presentations ... our USA video calls have zero presentations within internal meetings.
4. Ask about getting individual raises and bonuses on company-wide state of union calls. I am talking a few hundred people and "Oliver wants to know when he will be getting an increase in salary." or "When do i get my Christmas Bonus" - only 10% of the company is eligible for incentive pay...and they allow public questioning over it. Happens on all company wide calls...never upsets the managment.
What do your foreign companies and co-workers do that make you confused.
My favorite is in the EU (particularly Germans) will hound you to death about a critical project which they will insist that you work insanely fast to meet a crazy deadline. Then once it's complete and needs to ship (requiring their approval) they have disappeared on some 2-3 week vacation without notifying you. So the rush project now sits for a month.
South Americans will filibuster themselves stretching a 30 min call into 3 hours.
Indians…not worth the perma ban.
Commas instead of decimals.
F the metric system.
We are owned by an Indian based company.
Common company arguments involve pay because they believe we should be able to hire anyone we want for about $5-6/hr and anything more than that is robbery. Leads to major moral problems.
Our legal teams will spend months arguing with venders about contracts trying to get pointless concessions to the point where the vender will just walk away.
Constant WhatsApp messages about how unsafe, dirty and terrible America is despite wanting to go to the mall to shop on every business trip here.
Going to stop there.
I manage a mostly Indian (Tamil Nadu) department. My biggest beef with executive Indian site leadership and HR is their insistence that we do our very best to underpay at every single available option.
For example. Hiring some mid-level person asking for 20 lakh, company salary range is 23 lakh minimum. HR says give them 20 because they'll be happy, I say give them 23 because it's the minimum and your own local HR group has determined that's the going market minimum for that job. They argue that we can save 3 lakh but yet they can't seem to get it through their heads that trying to save 3 lakh is stupid when they can quit in six months because they'll turn around and get 23 at every other company. Or at best get really pissed off when they find out what all their counterparts are making more (since they all like to talk money).
Drives me nuts.
That's not true of my German counterparts at my company. I swear they are on Holiday like every other week.evestor1 said:
2. Tell Americans that they do not get holidays off and should take PTO. Neglecting that their benefits package is 40 PTO days and USA is 15 PTO + 7 Holiday.
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I believe anyone who has worked retail where negotiations take place (cars, real estate) will agree that the "average" Indian consumer is not happy unless he/she has screwed over the other party.