What's a good long term hold near bottom

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jamey
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Nobody knows the bottom, I get it.

But what would be a good long term, 10 year type hold when we're close?


I was thinking QQQ and XBI?
Brian Earl Spilner
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QQQ
GOOGL
AAPL
JohnLA762
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VTSAX
techno-ag
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JohnLA762 said:

VTSAX
If you don't have a Vanguard account, it can be expensive to buy into VTSAX from what I understand. Some brokers charge a $75 transaction fee. Better to buy VTI instead, imo, if you want to go that route.
AgOutsideAustin
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VTI
jagvocate
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$PLAT
JSKolache
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All of it. Buy everything, seriously. It's a fire sale.
Ag92NGranbury
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JSKolache said:

All of it. Buy everything, seriously. It's a fire sale.
i hope that's tongue in cheek
Tormentos
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I am doing a 75/25% split VTI/VUG.
cryption
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I like QYLD as well, the dividends are solid
LMCane
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techno-ag said:

JohnLA762 said:

VTSAX
If you don't have a Vanguard account, it can be expensive to buy into VTSAX from what I understand. Some brokers charge a $75 transaction fee. Better to buy VTI instead, imo, if you want to go that route.
exactly this

I do have some VTSAX

but will not pay additional $75 to add to the position so I use VTI
pfo
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GOOG

Their financials may be the best of any company in the world and advertising will come back strong one day. Could it go lower. Yes. But it won't matter over 10 years if you paid 98 or 88.

Its PE is 17, it's growing at 14%/yr and when advertising comes back it should resume its past 5 years 20%/yr growth rate.
northeastag
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pfo said:

GOOG

Their financials may be the best of any company in the world and advertising will come back strong one day. Could it go lower. Yes. But it won't matter over 10 years if you paid 98 or 88.

Its PE is 17, it's growing at 14%/yr and when advertising comes back it should resume its past 5 years 20%/yr growth rate.
Good call pfo!

Who knows if they can actually get 20% growth, but I'll take half of that!
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Baby Billy
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MDT, MSFT, NKE, BLK, VFC, CRM, AMZN
2wealfth Man
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JEPI and/or DIVO
LMCane
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Bizarro Jerry said:

MDT, MSFT, NKE, BLK, VFC, CRM, AMZN
I have MSFT NIKE and Amazon
exp
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ac04 said:

gold
black gold
digital gold


Things that have scarcity. Good call.
Legend
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GHC
WTM
AXS
FRFHF
OldArmyCT
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The problem with buying VTSAX without a Vanguard is no selling agreement. If Vanguard won't license a company to hold a security of theirs in an outside account then to facilitate trades fees are involved. VTI and the like trade on the exchange, ergo all you need to look for are trading fees. But...once this market turns around missing out BC of a $75 fee will look pretty dumb. There's not much difference between VG funds and VG ETF's though.
MS08
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CVNA ? Has not had lows like this since 2017-2018. Significantly (15x) off it's high, sure the high was overvalued but, $20?
zagman
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Look for industries that have been established and ones that are likely to be the future. That means avoid discretionary stocks, high risk growth stocks, etc.

Start with consumer staples and technology infrastructure. Look for stocks that have steady or rising revenue and earnings with reasonable future forecasts. Then, within those, look for the lowest price to book value. That's the ones you want as they are undervalued relative to their own strength potential.
TTUArmy
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Ag92NGranbury said:

JSKolache said:

All of it. Buy everything, seriously. It's a fire sale.
i hope that's tongue in cheek


I don't think it is. Going to be quite a few millionaires made from this recession once we get the politics straightened out again. Make it rain, gentleman.
techno-ag
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TTUArmy said:

Ag92NGranbury said:

JSKolache said:

All of it. Buy everything, seriously. It's a fire sale.
i hope that's tongue in cheek


I don't think it is. Going to be quite a few millionaires made from this recession once we get the politics straightened out again. Make it rain, gentleman.
Certainly it wouldn't hurt to DCA some index funds approaching 52 week lows.
Bobcat-Ag
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It's not a profitable company.
Ag92NGranbury
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TTUArmy said:

Ag92NGranbury said:

JSKolache said:

All of it. Buy everything, seriously. It's a fire sale.
i hope that's tongue in cheek


I don't think it is. Going to be quite a few millionaires made from this recession once we get the politics straightened out again. Make it rain, gentleman.
there's going to be a lot of millionaires that won't be millionaires anymore when they attempt to catch a falling knife...

i don't think we are anywhere close to the bottom once contagion from lack of free money starts...

but don't listen to me... i really don't know much :-0
jamey
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techno-ag said:

TTUArmy said:

Ag92NGranbury said:

JSKolache said:

All of it. Buy everything, seriously. It's a fire sale.
i hope that's tongue in cheek


I don't think it is. Going to be quite a few millionaires made from this recession once we get the politics straightened out again. Make it rain, gentleman.
Certainly it wouldn't hurt to DCA some index funds approaching 52 week lows.


Yeah...I'm looking for index funds. Not going to mess with individual stocks much.

QQQ and XBI is what I'm thinking so far.
techno-ag
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pfo
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MS08 said:

CVNA ? Has not had lows like this since 2017-2018. Significantly (15x) off it's high, sure the high was overvalued but, $20?


CVNA is $8.63 billion in debt with a market cap of $3.5 billion. That's scary enough. On top of that Carvana sells cars with interest rates going up rapidly and a recession dead ahead. If all that isn't scary enough, the CEO's dad went to jail for financial malfeasance. But I'll say this, if Carvana doesn't go bankrupt, it could be a 20 bagger one day. I'm actually going to buy a little this month because I like to have a few potential grand slams in my portfolio of mainly blue chip stocks.
MS08
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pfo said:

MS08 said:

CVNA ? Has not had lows like this since 2017-2018. Significantly (15x) off it's high, sure the high was overvalued but, $20?


CVNA is $8.63 billion in debt with a market cap of $3.5 billion. That's scary enough. On top of that Carvana sells cars with interest rates going up rapidly and a recession dead ahead. If all that isn't scary enough, the CEO's dad went to jail for financial malfeasance. But I'll say this, if Carvana doesn't go bankrupt, it could be a 20 bagger one day. I'm actually going to buy a little this month because I like to have a few potential grand slams in my portfolio of mainly blue chip stocks.


Appreciate the additional insight. I know it's highly speculative. But, it has a chance. Worth acquiring a round, maybe? Time is on my side whether it hits or not.
Stat Monitor Repairman
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We not anywhere near the bottom.
yemtig
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Jamey, go QQQ then... its down over 35% year to date. That is a deal right now and I think it heads lower. Lets see what the numbers tell us tomorrow. If we go down, you get it for cheaper... No brainer imo
jamey
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yemtig said:

Jamey, go QQQ then... its down over 35% year to date. That is a deal right now and I think it heads lower. Lets see what the numbers tell us tomorrow. If we go down, you get it for cheaper... No brainer imo


The more Iook at the more I think I'm going to put like 80% in QQQ, average in every time it hits another low
jamey
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pfo said:

GOOG

Their financials may be the best of any company in the world and advertising will come back strong one day. Could it go lower. Yes. But it won't matter over 10 years if you paid 98 or 88.

Its PE is 17, it's growing at 14%/yr and when advertising comes back it should resume its past 5 years 20%/yr growth rate.


I'm gonna put some on GOOG too
Scaramanga1999
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VOO or VTI if you don't mind volatility.

BLNDX if you want steady gains under any market conditions.
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