Actual free tax return?

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babyshark
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8:53p, 4/3/19
Turbotax charging me $60 bc free version doesn't support HSA deduction...I refuse to pay out of principle
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Ragoo
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8:56p, 4/3/19
The only free you will get is a standard 1040-EZ.

I am sure you can print all of the forms, complete and snail mail file them yourself.

Out of principle.
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The Anchor
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8:56p, 4/3/19
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
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9:01p, 4/3/19
Free File Fillable Forms
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9:45p, 4/3/19
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In reply to The Anchor • 10:15p, 4/3/19
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
well, I'm sure he thinks a professional shouldn't charge him to do it for him either.
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commando2004
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10:33p, 4/3/19
Move to Canada. Their equivalent of irs.gov allows e-filing tax returns without paying a third party.
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babyshark
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In reply to The Anchor • 8:05a, 4/4/19
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
I agree with our President that I should not have to pay money to pay taxes. Now where's that post card return that he promised me?
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In reply to babyshark • 8:13a, 4/4/19
babyshark said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
I agree with our President that I should not have to pay money to pay taxes. Now where's that post card return that he promised me?

As someone said above, then print out the forms and do it yourself. That still is, and always has been free. No one is forcing you to use someone else's software to file your taxes. Why should that be free?
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In reply to babyshark • 8:43a, 4/4/19
babyshark said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
I agree with our President that I should not have to pay money to pay taxes. Now where's that post card return that he promised me?
wow
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10:26a, 4/4/19
You can do your taxes with paper and a calculator, for free.
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In reply to babyshark • 10:27a, 4/4/19
babyshark said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
I agree with our President that I should not have to pay money to pay taxes. Now where's that post card return that he promised me?

I'm not sure you know how this works.




Wait.....I've changed my mind. I'm sure you don't know how this works.
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gvine07
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10:45a, 4/4/19
Here's a link to do it for the price of postage:

https://www.irs.gov/forms-instructions

Don't screw it up. Seriously.
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babyshark
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In reply to [removed post] • 11:21a, 4/4/19
jayelbee said:
Credit Karma is free. They pay for it by having access to your data, but you can opt out and still use it.

Thanks! Went this route since I already have a credit karma account.

And to you mocking the question, it saved me $60
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Stive
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In reply to babyshark • 11:44a, 4/4/19
You were whining about not getting a service for free.

There's a big difference in saving $60 by doing it on your own vs crying about using software that was created by someone else and being asked to pay for it.
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In reply to Stive • 11:48a, 4/4/19
And in the end I used software created by someone else and didn't pay for it.
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Out in Left Field
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9:42p, 4/4/19
Can't you directly fill out tax forms in the "Forms" part of Turbotax?
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10:18p, 4/4/19
The real problem is how complicated our stupid tax system is.
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In reply to BenTheGoodAg • 11:54a, 4/5/19
BenTheGoodAg said:
The real problem is how complicated our stupid tax system is.

Disagree. Simplification puts us CPAs out of work, right?
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In reply to The Anchor • 12:37p, 4/5/19
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
Hold on, Intuit needs his $60 to pay lobbyists to prevent our state and federal governments from simplifying tax returns like every other country.
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In reply to gigemhilo • 4:49p, 4/5/19
gigemhilo said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
well, I'm sure he thinks a professional shouldn't charge him to do it for him either.
Don't blame him. You never know when you're going to get the sniffing accountant.
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In reply to AgBank • 7:02p, 4/5/19
AgBank said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
Hold on, Intuit needs his $60 to pay lobbyists to prevent our state and federal governments from simplifying tax returns like every other country.


Because before Intuit came along we were so much better off...
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9:11p, 4/5/19
Timely
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/planet-money/id290783428?mt=2&i=1000434101601
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In reply to gvine07 • 3:41p, 4/6/19
gvine07 said:



Because before Intuit came along we were so much better off...
It is still pure evil for Intuit, H&R Bock and others to rent seek through their lobbying efforts.
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In reply to babyshark • 5:43p, 4/6/19
babyshark said:
jayelbee said:
Credit Karma is free. They pay for it by having access to your data, but you can opt out and still use it.

Thanks! Went this route since I already have a credit karma account.

And to you mocking the question, it saved me $60
Actually it depends on how you value your data, because that's why it was "free". It's going to be shared to tons more places by them than a bigger firm.

Also, did you actually pay taxes when you filed or did you just not want to lose some of your refund?From you post i'm betting the latter.

Also technically if it comes out of your paycheck you already paid your taxes for free.
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In reply to OldArmyBrent • 6:31a, 4/7/19
OldArmyBrent said:
BenTheGoodAg said:
The real problem is how complicated our stupid tax system is.

Disagree. Simplification puts us CPAs out of work, right?


Ummm.... no
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gigemhilo
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In reply to AgBank • 6:32a, 4/7/19
AgBank said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
Hold on, Intuit needs his $60 to pay lobbyists to prevent our state and federal governments from simplifying tax returns like every other country.


Or maybe it actually costs money to develop the software and electronically file the return for you.
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In reply to khkman22 • 6:41a, 4/7/19
khkman22 said:
gigemhilo said:
The Anchor said:
Your principle is that a business should give you something they developed for free?
well, I'm sure he thinks a professional shouldn't charge him to do it for him either.
Don't blame him. You never know when you're going to get the sniffing accountant.


You would be amazed at how many people expect professionals to do things for free - advice, consultation, tax prep - or at the least very cheaply. What they don't realize is it costs me to file something for them.
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7:37a, 4/7/19
I was told the return would be free. Free free free.
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8:43a, 4/7/19
I think it's worth it to have an accountant do it just because with mine it's very easy. I just email him the documents. He gives me a call when it's done, and an invoice and copy in the mail a week later.

I cut him a check, cut the IRS a check, and drop them in the mail using the pre-addressed envelopes he includes with the invoice.

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10:38a, 4/7/19
Yeah their "free ... free, free, free, free" ad campaign only pertains to very simple returns.

Also, if you use them its cheaper to pay their fee up front rather than let them deduct it from your return. They will charge you an extra $40+ for that "convenience".
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In reply to gigemhilo • 1:00p, 4/7/19
gigemhilo said:
Or maybe it actually costs money to develop the software and electronically file the return for you.


An up-front cost, yes, but divided among millions of filers, it couldn't be very much.
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In reply to commando2004 • 1:25p, 4/7/19
commando2004 said:
gigemhilo said:
Or maybe it actually costs money to develop the software and electronically file the return for you.

An up-front cost, yes, but divided among millions of filers, it couldn't be very much.

Products and services are universally priced on their value to the customer, not their COGS. I'm sad that needs to be said on the Business & Investing forum of Texags dot com.
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In reply to gigemhilo • 4:34p, 4/7/19
Think of how much more money they could spend on their product if they would stop paying lobbyists to make our lives more complicated.


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