Napa Area Spring Break

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Peyton
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The wife and I have no kids this spring break and are looking for a getaway to the Napa area. Does anyone have recs on where to stay or specific resorts? Also winery and restaurant recommendations? TIA.
oldarmy76
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Just been there once. Stayed at Indian lodge (I think that's what it was called) in Calistoga. Loved it. Real low key I think compared to Napa proper. Hot springs fed pool. Good restaurant on site.

https://www.indianspringscalistoga.com/

I'm sure others more experienced will have other recommendations

gratitudeandacceptance
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Another vote for Calistoga. Great town.

We're more Sonoma people so no strong Napa recommendations. If you're open to Sonoma, our two faves are:
Bodega Bay Lodge on the coast and staying on the square in downtown Healdsburg. This place is great: H2 Hotel.

We also usually hire a driver for one day so we can imbibe safely.

htxag09
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Petit logis is where I prefer to stay. Great location but not a huge resort so not paying for the spa, pool, etc we wouldn't use anyway.

As far as winery recommendations, really depends on what you're looking for. They have tours, personally not for me. But if you don't really have any places you want to go to they're a good non effort option. All planning is done for you.

When we go, we typically only do 2 or 3 wineries a day and typically just Uber.
East Dallas Ag
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That Petit Logis location is pretty awesome, I'm going to keep that in mind for our next visit. Anything in downtown Yountville would be a great spot from an atmosphere and walkability standpoint.

We last stayed at Rancho Caymus Inn https://www.ranchocaymusinn.com/ . It was a good convenient location and the rooms were nice, there were tastings every afternoon, breakfast was included and they had good partnerships with a lot of wineries for free or reduced tastings or special tasting experiences. The only downside was the view from the rooms wasn't great, ours was of the warehouse next door. This was all pre-Covid so some of that has probably changed. Have had friends stay at The Harvest Inn and thought it was great, but $$.

We've VRBO'd condos at the Silverado Resort/Country Club several times and that was a good option, especially for multiple couples or if you're into golf. Convenient to the wineries on Silverado Trail and downtown Napa, not so much for anywhere north or west.

You should check with any winery you want to visit and make sure they are doing tastings/tours and you'll likely need an appointment as well. 2-3 per day is a good number, 4 can get a little rushed but doable depending on if it's just tasting vs. touring.

Bistro Jeanty is probably the most recommended restaurant due to it's value for the quality of meal.
Peyton
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Thank you guys for the recs
Pirate04
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I'm also taking note of these suggestions since I'll be in the area for a few weeks.
752bro4
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Some suggestions... I need to update this, but most of it still stands. I send a variation of this email out to anyone going for their first time. I also want to note that Napa Valley is not a place you can do on a real tight budget. This isn't Vegas where you can find $1 beers or hotdogs on the street corner. California is expensive, Napa is even more so.

Transportation:
Fly into Sacramento, not any of the Bay Area airports... easier in and out, about 10 miles further, about the same time. Think of it as a Hobby/Love Field type whereas SFO is on par with DFW.

If you have to fly into a Bay Area one, I'd say Oakland, San Jose, San Fran in that order. Oakland is a s-hole, but a lot of options with Southwest. San Fran has tons of flight options, but a pain to get to, and bigger pain to get a rental car from. San Jose is a little further away, but less cluster-effy than SFO.

Rent a car from whatever airport you're coming from to/from. If you're doing more than 2 tastings in a day, I'd suggest a driver. There are dozens of these services, and it's about $200-300/day. There are also winery tour packages you can do... basically $40-60/person and they'll take you and 15 others to different places that they've pre-selected. It's a good way to see places you wouldn't otherwise. Uber/Lyft are more prevalent there on the weekends/holidays.

We've used Master Wine Tours for a 12-person Mercedes Sprinter - can't recommend him enough. 707-266-3750, info@masterwinetours.com

Other Transportation Note:
It takes a lot longer to get where you're going than you think. On a weekend, it could take 30-45 minutes to get from downtown Napa to St. Helena. Plan your trip accordingly. Stick to one of the cities/areas and don't try to criss-cross back and forth. Tastings are usually 60-90 minutes, and it will take 15+ to get anywhere, even if the map says it's 5.2 miles away. Also don't try to do Napa and Sonoma in the same day. It just doesn't work. My recs below are all Napa, but I have a similar list, but smaller, for Sonoma.

Food:
Most places start taking reservations 60 days in advance, and can be done either through OpenTable, Tock, Rezy or Yelp.

Yountville/St. Helena/Rutherford/Oakville:
Thomas Keller restaurants:
Ad Hoc - fantastic fixed menu brunch, great dinners as well, fixed menu that changes daily, with the possibility to add stuff on.
Addendum - little shack open for lunch behind Ad Hoc. Order the fried chicken, it's life changing. You can order online beforehand and skip the lines
French Laundry - duh. Haven't been, but it is what it is, and expect to pay $1k+ for dinner plus wine pairing
Bouchon Bakery - Keller's bakery. People will be standing in line for this place at all times. It opens at 6:30am everyday, and you're likely going to be awake with the 2 hour time change. Go early, grab some coffee, a pastry, and a ham croissant, and bring back some macaroons.
Bouchon - TK's French restaurant. Phenomenal, highly recommend
La Calenda - TK's Mexican/taco joint. It was pretty good, but not the greasy Tex-Mex stuff we're getting here. No reservations, and the bar area is relatively small. We showed up at 5:00pm on a Sunday and didn't get seated until about 6:00. Margaritas were good, tacos were great, so was the guac and dips and deserts. We weren't as impressed with the tamales.

Bottega - Fantastic Italian place, Mario Chiarello is the chef, one of the best meals I've ever had. Very reasonably priced wine selection as well.
Mustard's Grill - upscale road-side dinner/cafe if that makes sense. Great lunch spot. Last time we were there (July 2021) it was all outside in a tent, not sure if that's changed
Gott's Roadside - think of this as their version of a 50's Whataburger/In-n-out. Order ahead online and don't stand in line like everyone else. Eat outside on a picnic table with a Pliny the Elder.
Goose and Gander - another excellent restaurant, upscale bar food would be how I would describe it
R&D Kitchen - same as the R&D or Houston's we have in Texas, but they have a great courtyard/bar area to grab some wine and hang while waiting on your tables at one of the above restaurants
Oakville Grocery - never been, but everyone says it's an awesome gourmet deli
Brasswood Bar & Kitchen - Fantastic little place. Order the buffalo mozzarella.
Bistro Jeanty - French restaurant in Yountville, not a TK restaurant. Decent substitute if you can't get into Bouchon.

Wine:
Bigger wineries you've probably heard of - I'm not saying these are good/great/bad, but many are the similar types of tours and tastings. Typically a group of 6-12 of you walk through some production facility with a guide, get a story on the ownership/property, maybe some caves if they have them, sit down in a nice room, go through 4-7 pours, eat stale breadsticks, end up purchasing something you like, and leave. I've had some great tours, medium tours, and meh tours, but they all serve good vino.

I do think if this is your first time, or haven't been in a while, it's a good re-fresher on the process. Each should be anywhere from $50-$100 pp, but can usually be waved with a minimum purchase. You can go online to book, many are on Tock, or their own reservation system.

Mondavi, Nickel & Nickel, Far Niente, Rombauer, Hall, Del Dotto, Silverado, Cakebread, Round Pond, Duckhorn, Domaine Carneros, Schramsberg/Davies, Krupp - these off the top of my head are ones we've done. Of these, Round Pond and Krupp are my favorite, my wife loves Schramsberg for the bubbles.

More quaint tours/tastings:
O'Brien (a favorite), Caldwell (NSFW but highly entertaining), Modus Operandi (members and a favorite), Seven Stones (expect to spend $700 +/- to get in and must get 3 bottles, but great view and juice), Larkmead, Miner, Cliff Lede

Tasting rooms in Yountville:
Beau Vinge, JCB, Silver Trident - all good places to hop in and get a glass while exploring Yountville

Hotels:
This can get real expensive real quick. Unless you're looking for a spa or specific amenity, just stay in the Marriott in Oakville or something similar. Most of the ones in Yountville are +/- $1,000 per night. If you stay in Napa proper, just know you've added 30 minutes to your drives to and from the wineries.
ColoradoMooseHerd
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Learn the Difference between Stag's Leap Wine Cellars and Stags' Leap Winery.

The more famous of the two is Stag's Leap Wine Cellars. They won the "Judgement of Paris" in 1976, this is supposedly what put Napa on the world map for wine and changed Napa forever.

Stags' Leap Winery does a lot of advertising and has a similar name and label but the wines are quite different. Many people visit the wrong one and never knew there were two with similar names. Stags' Leap has a very nice petite syrah, but the other is world famous for the Cabs.

Just make sure you know which you are visiting.
jh0400
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Since you said Napa area, I'd recommend northern Sonoma instead. You can stay around Healdsburg or Windsor for a bit less than the cost to stay on the Napa side, and you'll have access to more types of wine. Most of the Napa wineries are very proud of their Cabernet Sauvignon, and once you've tasted three or four $100+ Cabs they all start to taste the same. Northern Sonoma gives you quick access to Russian River Pinot Noir (We like Davis Family on the square in Healdsburg), Dry Creek Zin and Syrah (Ridge), along with a good selection of other varietals. If you want to day trip over to Napa, the drive across the mountain from Santa Rosa to Calistoga is nice, but the drive from Healdsburg through Alexander Valley and then down to Calistoga is our preferred route for the scenery.

If you end up going this route, Barndiva in Healdsburg is a great spot for a nice dinner. For lunch between wineries, the Dry Creek General Store has good sandwiches and Pliny the Elder in bottles.
1988PA-Aggie
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Went to Napa in late January. Sister and nephew are foodies/wineys (?) so they booked some really great tastings.

I think you need to ask yourself what you want out of a tasting:

Drink lots of wine (car service recommended while I don't believe I saw more than one police car in 6 days?)
Sample wine to find some good ones (I found that the tastings WITH food made a huge difference in the wine.)
Have an experience (environment, tour, food quality, service)

There are so many out there that you will find several or many that suit what you are looking for. My nephew set it all up and we agreed we wanted great experiences, so yes, while costing more money, it became a very memorable trip. You can hit dozens of wineries and drink tons of wine, many of the tastings are very reasonable. But if you like food with your tasting, it will be a bit (or a lot) more money. Then the wine quality you are seeking will affect the price of the tasting. Depending on your budget, you can go to tastings and sample some very special wines ($500-1000 per bottle, but you may pay hundreds per person for the tasting.) All wineries will give you an opportunity to join their club and you can get some incredible wines that you normally can't get. As 752 said, sometimes joining and a certain purchase will waive the tasting fee..

We splurged on a few. While I am not a 'wine guy', the overall experience was incredible and I did enjoy the wine due to the food, environment/scenery, and presentation by your guide.

I can give you a few recs if you reply on what you may be seeking.

And 752 put a helluva list together. We hit Gott's (a must), La Calenda, Ad Hoc (they were doing brisket that night), and La Toque. All were great.
turfman80
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Just to add on.... check out bed and breakfasts. Four Sisters has several that can be less $$ than hotels,spas,etc. Loved Bottega and Bouchon for dining. Favorite wine was Failla Pinot. If you want a one on one type winery visit, check Smith Madrone. Stu and Charlie have been producing their wines since the 70's.

If we were to go back to the area, it would Healdsburg. Great wineries to visit, different topography and styles, less hectic, plus you can drive to the coast. Even see where "The Birds" was filmed.

Yeah, well, sometimes nothing is a real cool hand
Gig-Em2003
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How is Lyft/Uber environment in Napa Valley? Car services are outrageous $$$, wondering if we can just manage with Uber instead.
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