Companion pass is the only "status" you can earn with out making one revenue flight that I know of. I still wonder how they have it fairly easily accessible for people to earn.
United's New Boarding Procedure
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That's exactly what I'm saying lol. Fly instead of driving when it was only a 6 hour drive. A couple of random round trips. Totally worth it tho
I think you can qualify for status via cc spend if you still have the legacy continental club card. Doesn't work with the United club card though.
I believe the fastest was to have the window seat people board first, and have the rows staggered so like every other row starting from the back loads. fill the remaining rows in, then same procedure for middle seat, then aisle seat.YouBet said:I seem to recall some other boarding methodology that is seen as the most efficient but it wasn't practical to implement. I can't remember the specifics. And I think southwest was next best alternative after that one.62strat said:seems I remember myth busters did an analysis of boarding types and first come first serve (southwest) ended up being the most efficient.rebelag62 said:
That's how it should be done.
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This. We have the old presidential plus card that United absolutely hates. It throws off enough for status every year.Jock 07 said:
I think you can qualify for status via cc spend if you still have the legacy continental club card. Doesn't work with the United club card though.
We have a United card, but I hate to fly united these days. It does give me a special thrill when I make United give me points for flights I buy on SWA using the United card.
No, that was slower than first come first serveschmendeler said:I believe the fastest was to have the window seat people board first, and have the rows staggered so like every other row starting from the back loads. fill the remaining rows in, then same procedure for middle seat, then aisle seat.YouBet said:I seem to recall some other boarding methodology that is seen as the most efficient but it wasn't practical to implement. I can't remember the specifics. And I think southwest was next best alternative after that one.62strat said:seems I remember myth busters did an analysis of boarding types and first come first serve (southwest) ended up being the most efficient.rebelag62 said:
That's how it should be done.
https://mythresults.com/airplane-boarding
Southwest's process works because they don't charge for bags, eliminating the thunder dome crush to board to claim the limited overhead space. You also line up in order and in boarding groups so there's no standing in line for 30min, holding your spot (and your chance at overhead space) before you board.
The "choose your own seats" step is only one of many that make it work more quickly for SWA.
The "choose your own seats" step is only one of many that make it work more quickly for SWA.
If the free checked bag was key to the success of the boarding procedure, then myth busters would have had different results. Loads of people on SW are taking weekend trips, and generally a weekend trip means a carry on, not a checked bag. Free checked bag or not, I'm carrying on for a 2 day trip, as are many others.Clarke95 said:
Southwest's process works because they don't charge for bags, eliminating the thunder dome crush to board to claim the limited overhead space.
MB did a legit faux boarding using all of the styles with a real plane and real people and real flight attendants. First come first served was the most efficient and they didn't incorporate free vs. paid checked bags. It has nothing to do with free bags.
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They should charge for carryon and let checked bags ride free. The business traveler who is more efficient than Joe Vacation will pay the fee and expense it, while Joe Vacation checks his bag and loudly talks with his cell about how he headed to the Windy City this weekend and he sure is glad he had his neck pillow and eye mask for the 2 hour flight.
I was concierge key with AA for 3 years and EP for 3 now. I board early to get my bag on and won't fly SW because I can't pick my seat. If I am in first I will wait until the last minute because AA will make room for your bag in first.
I was concierge key with AA for 3 years and EP for 3 now. I board early to get my bag on and won't fly SW because I can't pick my seat. If I am in first I will wait until the last minute because AA will make room for your bag in first.
Heck, if they awarded points for checking luggage, the frequent business travelers would be checking three pieces.
Totally agree. Start charging for any bag that doesn't fit under the seat. That would speed it up.
Yeh you can, so long as no one else picked it first.. Just like any other airline.Kee said:
won't fly SW because I can't pick my seat.
Why hasn't someone designed a plane where the OH bin is gone, and seats are raised up a bit with a cavity underneath them so everyone has their own little sliding door to drop a bag into it?
I've seen a surprising amount of grocery bags and boxes that are more duct tape than cardboard pass for "luggage" on Southwest so I'm not sure checking bags makes a difference there.
Almost as bad as skinny short people in the exit rows.
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I travel for business every week and can't risk my bag getting lost, or waste the time in baggage claim waiting for a checked bag.
Yeah, its one of the better parts of flying frontier actually. They never run out of ohb space since they charge. Now the rest of their process is inefficient so for them it cancels out, but it'd save time for the majors. Its the best part of flying frontier, I can be the last person on the plane and not care. It's usually my goal, but people manage to dick around even more and im usually last 5.Matsui said:
Totally agree. Start charging for any bag that doesn't fit under the seat. That would speed it up.
people bending down to put them in/pull out would take forever and take up more space bending over. this would be slow as hell, or take up too much space. People also suck at stairs. I assume getting up to go to the bathroom would become a liability too. Airlines don't need drunk joe missing a step and crashing into the next row knocking some teeth out.62strat said:
Why hasn't someone designed a plane where the OH bin is gone, and seats are raised up a bit with a cavity underneath them so everyone has their own little sliding door to drop a bag into it?
Stairs? Not sure you're following me.The Lost said:people bending down to put them in/pull out would take forever and take up more space bending over. this would be slow as hell, or take up too much space. People also suck at stairs. I assume getting up to go to the bathroom would become a liability too. Airlines don't need drunk joe missing a step and crashing into the next row knocking some teeth out.62strat said:
Why hasn't someone designed a plane where the OH bin is gone, and seats are raised up a bit with a cavity underneath them so everyone has their own little sliding door to drop a bag into it?
Just imagine a plane as it is now, but a little sliding trap door under the seat in front of you that reveals a little compartment the size of their carry on restriction.
Bending over to put that in would be no slower than these kind of people, advantage is everyone would have their own dedicated space.
That would put really fat people's butts in the faces of the rest of us!
Which would still be impractical for the airline considering they would lose cargo space under the place... which is used for many things other than just passenger luggage.62strat said:Stairs? Not sure you're following me.The Lost said:people bending down to put them in/pull out would take forever and take up more space bending over. this would be slow as hell, or take up too much space. People also suck at stairs. I assume getting up to go to the bathroom would become a liability too. Airlines don't need drunk joe missing a step and crashing into the next row knocking some teeth out.62strat said:
Why hasn't someone designed a plane where the OH bin is gone, and seats are raised up a bit with a cavity underneath them so everyone has their own little sliding door to drop a bag into it?
Just imagine a plane as it is now, but a little sliding trap door under the seat in front of you that reveals a little compartment the size of their carry on restriction.
Bending over to put that in would be no slower than these kind of people, advantage is everyone would have their own dedicated space.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/air-freight1.htm
Well I mentioned in my first post 'raise the seats, lose the overhead bin.' but you took that as leave the floor where it is, raise the seats and have stairs to the seats..The Lost said:Which would still be impractical for the airline considering they would lose cargo space under the place... which is used for many things other than just passenger luggage.62strat said:Stairs? Not sure you're following me.The Lost said:people bending down to put them in/pull out would take forever and take up more space bending over. this would be slow as hell, or take up too much space. People also suck at stairs. I assume getting up to go to the bathroom would become a liability too. Airlines don't need drunk joe missing a step and crashing into the next row knocking some teeth out.62strat said:
Why hasn't someone designed a plane where the OH bin is gone, and seats are raised up a bit with a cavity underneath them so everyone has their own little sliding door to drop a bag into it?
Just imagine a plane as it is now, but a little sliding trap door under the seat in front of you that reveals a little compartment the size of their carry on restriction.
Bending over to put that in would be no slower than these kind of people, advantage is everyone would have their own dedicated space.
https://science.howstuffworks.com/transport/flight/modern/air-freight1.htm
What I mean is have the entire cross section of current floor/seating raised up 12" or whatever, to have a 12" cavity below seats.. so the belly of plane isn't effected. The space you are stealing from is the space above your head in the seats/aisle. (hence the necessity to remove OH bins)
As a concept, your idea isn't bad. But in reality, an airplane is a cylindrical pressure vessel. So, if you raise the seats 12" or so, you have to give up something as you move people's heads closer to the top of the circle cross-section. Maybe only really short people could sit by the window since raising the seats 12" would affect headroom in a window seat the most.
If we could just get flying cars going we could all avoid one another and fly in comfort of our own vehicle.
I would think the removal of OH bin would be enough headroom for window and middle seats, but who knows.HollywoodBQ said:
As a concept, your idea isn't bad. But in reality, an airplane is a cylindrical pressure vessel. So, if you raise the seats 12" or so, you have to give up something as you move people's heads closer to the top of the circle cross-section. Maybe only really short people could sit by the window since raising the seats 12" would affect headroom in a window seat the most.
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