Why does Toronto keep doing this to themselves?
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Why did Charlie Brown keep trying to kick the football with Lucy holding it?WES2006AG said:
Why does Toronto keep doing this to themselves?
Why do we as Aggie football fans keep thinking the next year is our year?
Mathguy64 said:EastCoastAgNc said:The finalists for Japanese star right-hander Roki Sasaki are the Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres and Toronto Blue Jays, sources tell ESPN. Sasaki will decide on his team by the closing of his posting window Jan. 23.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2025
I'll go out on a limb and say the chances are:
LAD 95%
SD 4.99%
TOR 0.01%
This guy has been the biggest joke of the offseason. Everyone knew he was going to LAD from the outset. I don't see why he insisted on making it a dog and pony show.
Mathguy64 said:EastCoastAgNc said:The finalists for Japanese star right-hander Roki Sasaki are the Los Angeles Dodgers, San Diego Padres and Toronto Blue Jays, sources tell ESPN. Sasaki will decide on his team by the closing of his posting window Jan. 23.
— Jeff Passan (@JeffPassan) January 13, 2025
I'll go out on a limb and say the chances are:
LAD 95%
SD 4.99%
TOR 0.01%
Padres have been big favorites to land him for some time, but the ownership issues may becoming a bigger factor
If Jeff Passan's report is indeed correct, it seems as though the Mariners failed to even merit a meeting with Roki Sasaki, much less finalist status.
— John Trupin (@JohnTrupin) January 13, 2025
Embarrassing, but the organization's lack of investment in their roster has consequences and likely hurt them here. https://t.co/nm5HFDcbxJ
WES2006AG said:
Why does Toronto keep doing this to themselves?
They keep hoping someone willl want those Canadian taxes, but it's a real hindrance…
LA bound. Might as well rename the team to the Los Angeles Kamikazes
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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in all seriousness...with regard to the Blue Jays...
has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?
something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?
something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
MLB really needs someone else to win the WS in '25
Money
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Trudeau's Canada is kind of a ****ty place.W said:
in all seriousness...with regard to the Blue Jays...
has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?
something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
Canada has increased its taxes on the wealthy in the last couple of years. If you play for the Jays, you pay 53% taxes between federal and provincial for every dollar past $220,000 that you make in Canada. A website I looked at says that's about 35% of a guy's salary over the year (81 road games plus 6 weeks of spring training make up the other 65%).W said:
in all seriousness...with regard to the Blue Jays...
has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?
something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
While most states have state income tax - the only ones without it that have an MLB team are Texas and Florida, no team's combination of state/federal taxes is as high as Canada's. California is closest (37% fed + 13.3% state) = 50.3% and New York is second (37% fed + 10.9% state) = 47.9%, but those teams are also offering salaries far beyond anything the Blue Jays will / can.
So if we take George Springer as an example - and this math is not quite right because of the graduated income tax class system - but regardless:
He is making $22.5 million for 2025.
35% of that is about $7.875 million.
He has to pay $4.17m of that in taxes.
If he played in Texas or Florida, he'd "only" pay $2.91m of that.
Even in California, it would be $3.91m which is $254,000 cheaper than Toronto.
So you're paying a lot of taxes to play for a team despite the fact that most guys probably don't live there year-round, and it seems unlikely anyone moves their family up there if they are from the US.
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— Astros Josh (@AstrosJosh) January 13, 2025
At this time last year Snell, Bellinger, Montgomery, and Hader were all still FAs.
Hader - Jan 22 - 5/95 M
Bellinger - Feb 25 - 3/80 M
Snell - Mar 19 - 2/62 M (opt'd out)
Montgomery - Mar 29 - 1/25 M (ended up 2/47.5 M)
Only Hader got a big payday that wasn't short-term. If we had waited, we might have gotten him cheaper. In hindsight, do we think someone tops 4/72 M?
Remaining Big Name FA (All projected 3+ years with AAV at least 12M per Fangraphs)
It looks increasingly like these guys will get squeezed and might have to settle for short-term deals.
Hader - Jan 22 - 5/95 M
Bellinger - Feb 25 - 3/80 M
Snell - Mar 19 - 2/62 M (opt'd out)
Montgomery - Mar 29 - 1/25 M (ended up 2/47.5 M)
Only Hader got a big payday that wasn't short-term. If we had waited, we might have gotten him cheaper. In hindsight, do we think someone tops 4/72 M?
Remaining Big Name FA (All projected 3+ years with AAV at least 12M per Fangraphs)
- Bregman
- Alonso
- Flaherty
- Santander
- Kim
- Profar
- Pivetta
- Scott
It looks increasingly like these guys will get squeezed and might have to settle for short-term deals.
It's 10 weeks until opening day. You would think you would want to sign as soon as possible if you're a bregman or an Alonso who has been on 1 team your whole career. Every single thing will be different in spring training and the season, you won't stay at your own house during home stands, etc. Big leagues are such creatures of habit that you'd think you'd want to get everything locked in way before it was go tume.
Yup. There has to be a point for these guys to sign by in their own heads. Of Farmers list above, I don't know how Belli did to start the season, but all three of Hader, Snell, and Montgomery didn't have great starts to their seasons. Alex is typically a slow starter anyway, so maybe it won't matter for him, but there is at least some correlation, which doesn't necessarily mean causation.
Wagner going in as an Astro or Phillie? Or something else?
Big Al 1992 said:
Wagner going in as an Astro or Phillie? Or something else?
One would assume an Astro with all the pulling Astros fans are doing for him to make the HoF…
I assumed Astros, but I guess he could go in as no team.Big Al 1992 said:
Wagner going in as an Astro or Phillie? Or something else?
bWAR
- Astros 16.2 / 58%
- Mets 5.0 / 18%
- Phillies 3.9 / 14%
- Braves 2.5 / 9%
- Red Sox 0.3 / 1%
Saves
- Astros 225 / 53%
- Mets 101 / 24%
- Phillies 59 / 14%
- Braves 37 / 9%
- Red Sox 0 / 0%
The %s are similar for games, innings, strikeouts. etc.
The Astros are the only team that makes sense. Almost half of his career was elsewhere, I could see him going in with no team.
Big Al 1992 said:
Wagner going in as an Astro or Phillie? Or something else?
Nine years in Houston, four with Mets, two in Philadelphia.
225 saves in Houston, next closest is 101 for the Mets.
694 Ks in Houston, next closest is 230 with the Mets.
Should be a no-brainer, but Manfred....
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
The player gets to choose, no?
not anymore
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Totally missed that somehow. Dumb
I actually think it's better this way. You avoid dumb **** like Ryan as a Ranger, Jackson as a Yankee, & Boggs as a Ray (attempted to).
Yep. Jackson seems like a perfect no hat example. Peak was basically split down the middle of NYY and OAK. But also spent time elsewhere.Farmer1906 said:
I actually think it's better this way. You avoid dumb **** like Ryan as a Ranger, Jackson as a Yankee, & Boggs as a Ray (attempted to).
Boggs is dumb. He's a Boston guy through and through.
Ryan as the Ranger is the worst example, and should probably be another no hat. He spent the most time in Houston and Cali… and had the best stats in Houston and Cali.
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That's Cam Smith with him
they have the same agent and agency and are both based in Florida. I think they train together
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I hope he isn't teaching him to lollygag.Farmer1906 said:they have the same agent and agency and are both based in Florida. I think they train together
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Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:Canada has increased its taxes on the wealthy in the last couple of years. If you play for the Jays, you pay 53% taxes between federal and provincial for every dollar past $220,000 that you make in Canada. A website I looked at says that's about 35% of a guy's salary over the year (81 road games plus 6 weeks of spring training make up the other 65%).W said:
in all seriousness...with regard to the Blue Jays...
has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?
something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
While most states have state income tax - the only ones without it that have an MLB team are Texas and Florida, no team's combination of state/federal taxes is as high as Canada's. California is closest (37% fed + 13.3% state) = 50.3% and New York is second (37% fed + 10.9% state) = 47.9%, but those teams are also offering salaries far beyond anything the Blue Jays will / can.
So if we take George Springer as an example - and this math is not quite right because of the graduated income tax class system - but regardless:
He is making $22.5 million for 2025.
35% of that is about $7.875 million.
He has to pay $4.17m of that in taxes.
If he played in Texas or Florida, he'd "only" pay $2.91m of that.
Even in California, it would be $3.91m which is $254,000 cheaper than Toronto.
So you're paying a lot of taxes to play for a team despite the fact that most guys probably don't live there year-round, and it seems unlikely anyone moves their family up there if they are from the US.
Believe it or not, the State of Washington has no state or local income taxes. Spent 12 years in Seattle and that was the biggest surprise.
Once the A's move to Nevada the AL West will be a tax payers dream as a player. 90% of your divisional games will be in no income tax statesiamtheglove said:Jose Cruuuuuuuuuuuuz said:Canada has increased its taxes on the wealthy in the last couple of years. If you play for the Jays, you pay 53% taxes between federal and provincial for every dollar past $220,000 that you make in Canada. A website I looked at says that's about 35% of a guy's salary over the year (81 road games plus 6 weeks of spring training make up the other 65%).W said:
in all seriousness...with regard to the Blue Jays...
has something changed in Toronto in the past 5 years...such that no one wants to play there?
something non-baseball related...i.e. politics, taxes, healthcare, etc..,?
While most states have state income tax - the only ones without it that have an MLB team are Texas and Florida, no team's combination of state/federal taxes is as high as Canada's. California is closest (37% fed + 13.3% state) = 50.3% and New York is second (37% fed + 10.9% state) = 47.9%, but those teams are also offering salaries far beyond anything the Blue Jays will / can.
So if we take George Springer as an example - and this math is not quite right because of the graduated income tax class system - but regardless:
He is making $22.5 million for 2025.
35% of that is about $7.875 million.
He has to pay $4.17m of that in taxes.
If he played in Texas or Florida, he'd "only" pay $2.91m of that.
Even in California, it would be $3.91m which is $254,000 cheaper than Toronto.
So you're paying a lot of taxes to play for a team despite the fact that most guys probably don't live there year-round, and it seems unlikely anyone moves their family up there if they are from the US.
Believe it or not, the State of Washington has no state or local income taxes. Spent 12 years in Seattle and that was the biggest surprise.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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good data -- thanks
was looking at wagner's stats and found his career interesting. played in 803 games as a big leaguer, all as a relief pitcher, most as a closer.
but in the minor leagues he was exclusively a starting pitcher, aside from injury rehab stints
but in the minor leagues he was exclusively a starting pitcher, aside from injury rehab stints
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Cam Smith is a pretty big dude
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