I like JV as 3-4 inning opener over carrying Ort or Ferguson, provided he doesn't implode that 1st time through the lineup. Pair him up with Blanco to eat the innings until we get Abreu, Press, or Hader.Harry Dunne said:
I do like the starter idea better. Let him go three innings. I'm not that confident our inexperienced guys are going to make it much longer than that anyway.
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No, it would be like comparing 2005 Jeff Bagwell sputtering to the end of his career to Jon Singleton.Farmer1906 said:JPN06 said:
A HOF career and a career's worth of postseason pitching vs a journeyman who has barely a blip of above average MLB performance matters more.
This would be like comparing Jose Abreu to Jon Singleton. All the past success of Jose and past failures of Singleton were basically meaningless in who was better in 2-0-2-4.
I don't care if his shoulder is falling off. I want Bagwell as a pinch hitter in that situation. And he deserves the opportunity.
Kikuchi has been vocal throughout his career about how money is not a big thing for him and he wants to be somewhere where he's comfortable and can win games.
He's very happy in Houston by all accounts.
He's very happy in Houston by all accounts.
JPN06 said:No, it would be like comparing 2005 Jeff Bagwell sputtering to the end of his career to Jon Singleton.Farmer1906 said:JPN06 said:
A HOF career and a career's worth of postseason pitching vs a journeyman who has barely a blip of above average MLB performance matters more.
This would be like comparing Jose Abreu to Jon Singleton. All the past success of Jose and past failures of Singleton were basically meaningless in who was better in 2-0-2-4.
I don't care if his shoulder is falling off. I want Bagwell as a pinch hitter in that situation. And he deserves the opportunity.
I guess we just see things differently. I want whoever gives us the best shot to win.
If JV is on the postseason roster, it's because Jim Crane either has no backbone or values his relationship with JV over championships.
There's no scenario where having him on your roster right now puts your team in the best position to win a championship.
There's no scenario where having him on your roster right now puts your team in the best position to win a championship.
texasaggie2015 said:
Kikuchi has been vocal throughout his career about how money is not a big thing for him and he wants to be somewhere where he's comfortable and can win games.
He's very happy in Houston by all accounts.
He might want to switch agents then... Isn't he repped by Boras?
So besides reaching his most innings pitched… why are we so hesitant on here of saying Blanco should start game 4 of a series?
He's rocking a 2.88 ERA after a full season and has still been really good.
He's rocking a 2.88 ERA after a full season and has still been really good.
texasaggie2015 said:
If JV is on the postseason roster, it's because Jim Crane either has no backbone or values his relationship with JV over championships.
There's no scenario where having him on your roster right now puts your team in the best position to win a championship.
Verlander was asked if could understand/accept if he was left off postseason roster: “Yeah, I mean, like I said, it’s not my decision. I was away for two months and all these guys were pitching fantastic. You’ve seen a bunch of guys really come into their own…” pic.twitter.com/BUDityIetf
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 21, 2024
To me it sounds like he's kind of accepted his fate. I would hope Him would not insert himself to this level, but who knows.
We of course agree on that principle. We disagree on who gives us the best shot.
You may be right! At my core I'm really more of a Dusty "gut feeling" guy. i played at a pretty decent level and value experience maybe more than I should. Take all that away though and the last guy on the bench isn't probably going to play anyway and I think JV deserves that spot just out of respect.
You may be right! At my core I'm really more of a Dusty "gut feeling" guy. i played at a pretty decent level and value experience maybe more than I should. Take all that away though and the last guy on the bench isn't probably going to play anyway and I think JV deserves that spot just out of respect.
EastCoastAgNc said:texasaggie2015 said:
Kikuchi has been vocal throughout his career about how money is not a big thing for him and he wants to be somewhere where he's comfortable and can win games.
He's very happy in Houston by all accounts.
He might want to switch agents then... Isn't he repped by Boras?
Boras has a reputation for getting max value for a player, but yusei is still the boss. He can tell boras to get max value from Houston and that's what he has to do then
https://ts.la/eric59704
Fair
EastCoastAgNc said:texasaggie2015 said:
If JV is on the postseason roster, it's because Jim Crane either has no backbone or values his relationship with JV over championships.
There's no scenario where having him on your roster right now puts your team in the best position to win a championship.Verlander was asked if could understand/accept if he was left off postseason roster: “Yeah, I mean, like I said, it’s not my decision. I was away for two months and all these guys were pitching fantastic. You’ve seen a bunch of guys really come into their own…” pic.twitter.com/BUDityIetf
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 21, 2024
To me it sounds like he's kind of accepted his fate. I would hope Him would not insert himself to this level, but who knows.
I agree with you. He's a professional and he knows he hasn't produced, even if it's because of the injury.
Don't post much but follow almost always.
My take on JV is this:
1. It won't be Ort that he knocks off, it will be King IMHO or possibly Ferguson. I think King.
I know Ferguson is the new punching boy here, but after the first few poor outings, he has been pretty solid except the last one. All our guys have had bad outings.
When Ort is on he is almost unhittable, It is consistency with him. Dynamic stuff.
2. Last night JV was rolling through the first 2 and struggled a little in the 3rd but got through it OK. The 4ht and 5th is where he came unglued. HOWEVER ....
I had thought that "How is JV going to be after our prolonged 3rd inning!?" Will he tighten up? He was on the bench along time in both the 3rd and 4th innings, I wonder how he would of been if those were shorter innings at bat. (Not that I am unhappy about the prolonged at bats) but I did wonder if it might have an impact on JV.
I think it did. I was not surprise he struggled in the 4th because of the long layover from our third.
3. The question is we have like 10 days or so before a decision has to be made. That is at least one more start by JV, He did show improvement this last outing. FB hit 95 once and 94 fairly often. That is improvement, but a extended times on the bench between innnings is not going be a good things for an old JV, for sure!
My take on JV is this:
1. It won't be Ort that he knocks off, it will be King IMHO or possibly Ferguson. I think King.
I know Ferguson is the new punching boy here, but after the first few poor outings, he has been pretty solid except the last one. All our guys have had bad outings.
When Ort is on he is almost unhittable, It is consistency with him. Dynamic stuff.
2. Last night JV was rolling through the first 2 and struggled a little in the 3rd but got through it OK. The 4ht and 5th is where he came unglued. HOWEVER ....
I had thought that "How is JV going to be after our prolonged 3rd inning!?" Will he tighten up? He was on the bench along time in both the 3rd and 4th innings, I wonder how he would of been if those were shorter innings at bat. (Not that I am unhappy about the prolonged at bats) but I did wonder if it might have an impact on JV.
I think it did. I was not surprise he struggled in the 4th because of the long layover from our third.
3. The question is we have like 10 days or so before a decision has to be made. That is at least one more start by JV, He did show improvement this last outing. FB hit 95 once and 94 fairly often. That is improvement, but a extended times on the bench between innnings is not going be a good things for an old JV, for sure!
"only one thing is important!"
Whoa.
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) September 21, 2024
Could explain some of the struggles for Scott recently. https://t.co/lQIacaxanR
Fudge.
Sucks to lose Scott at this point. Makes the pickup of Neris even bigger
Game 155 pic.twitter.com/WEHnMLXwRC
— Brian McTaggart (@brianmctaggart) September 21, 2024
Max Scherzer scratched for the Rangers tonight.
— Adam Jude (@A_Jude) September 21, 2024
M’s will face Dane Dunning instead.
Of course they did
Wouldn't have mattered either way, they're going to roll over regardless. We just need to continue winning and eventually Seattle will run out of runway.EastCoastAgNc said:Max Scherzer scratched for the Rangers tonight.
— Adam Jude (@A_Jude) September 21, 2024
M’s will face Dane Dunning instead.
Of course they did
Tayler Scott said he is optimistic about missing a minimum 15 days and being ready for potential postseason series. https://t.co/kxpowThQhj
— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) September 21, 2024
Caratini with another start at 1B.
EastCoastAgNc said:Tayler Scott said he is optimistic about missing a minimum 15 days and being ready for potential postseason series. https://t.co/kxpowThQhj
— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) September 21, 2024
Severed spine
He'll be pitching in the ParaOlympics in 4 years.
Would love to see Yordan break out of his slump today. Need him to be on a roll when playoffs start.
Prosperdick said:Wouldn't have mattered either way, they're going to roll over regardless. We just need to continue winning and eventually Seattle will run out of runway.EastCoastAgNc said:Max Scherzer scratched for the Rangers tonight.
— Adam Jude (@A_Jude) September 21, 2024
M’s will face Dane Dunning instead.
Of course they did
Scherzer at least has some self respect to pitch well.
Nice job working out of a jam by Blanco.
Rangers already down 2-0 to the Merman.
Rangers already down 2-0 to the Merman.
Lot of pitches for Ron White but he's out of his mess.
A double for the Big Man! Let this be the start of a long hot streak Yordan!
Ted follows with an RBI double!
Double double.
Diaz Ks. It's up to Taquerias Arandas
whelp only one run out of that after Yanier and JP both K.
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