***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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Pirates threatening with 2 runners on
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In reply to AggiEE • 8:34p, 7/29/24
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AggiEE said:
Yall think im overreacting saying Dana should be fired now?

He should

This deal is atrocious. He may be a good scout, but he's a terrible negotiator/ dealer

This is a massive fleecing

Don't worry AG07 will be along shortly to tell everyone how they are overreacting and Dana isn't that bad
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8:35p, 7/29/24
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Meanwhile...
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Dana must be really high on Dezenzo if he was willing to part with Wagner?

Deal doesn't seem like a good one, unless the nerds unlock this guy's full potential...
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Well if teams didn't wanna deal with the Astros then they do now.
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Im pissed about giving loperfido period


This is malfeasance
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This is what happens when you hire an advanced scout to run your baseball team
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a running joke on this thread 15 years ago was...

"the fleecing of Ed Wade"
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8:36p, 7/29/24
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What was DET asking for Flaherty? Yordan, Altuve and JV?
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8:36p, 7/29/24
We better be going after snell/flarety and going full blown all in if Dana actually made this move
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 8:36p, 7/29/24
All I do is Nguyen said:


That's Baggie thanking him for making us all forget about his bad moves

(We know he did't make them)
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Wagner is a JAG. Loperfido has serious K issues and isn't exactly young. He may figure it out but I wouldn't be shocked if he's also a JAG. Bloss to me is the biggest loss but we have done fairly well in developing SP. Agree the totality of the value seems like way too much but as been said a top 5 prospect for us may be seen as a top 10-15 prospect elsewhere.

The odd part to me is you are trying to win and gave up 2 guys on your big league roster. Who takes Joey's role? Leon?
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In reply to All I do is Nguyen • 8:36p, 7/29/24
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Bagwell is saying:

"I'm off the hook now, bro"
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In reply to gambochaman • 8:37p, 7/29/24
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gambochaman said:
Im pissed about giving loperfido period


This is malfeasance


Guess Dana really in fact was not high on him… I was
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8:38p, 7/29/24
Last Japanese player the Astros had experienced crippling issues with his anus. Not a good sign.
“Things weren’t gentle and politically correct in those days. We weren’t candy asses. Okay?”
-Frank Borman

“Who are you to doubt El Dandy? ‘Cause this guy’s a serious professional.”
-Bret Hart
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In reply to Coog97 • 8:38p, 7/29/24
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Coog97 said:
Last Japanese player the Astros had experienced crippling issues with his anus. Not a good sign.
Aoki says hello
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8:39p, 7/29/24
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What the **** kind of trade is that?! ****ing FLEECED! For a nobody!
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This is a franchise/dynasty defining moment.

Kikuchi isn't even in the playoff rotation. He's a pure innings eater for the regular season.
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So much for doing something to help the offense and bullpen...yes I know i'm repeating myself, but this is criminally lopsided. Complete f***ing joke
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In reply to redline248 • 8:39p, 7/29/24
redline248 said:
Dana must be really high on Dezenzo if he was willing to part with Wagner?

Deal doesn't seem like a good one, unless the nerds unlock this guy's full potential...
Whitcomb and Dezenzo are better corner IF prospects than Wagner. Leon, Cole and Melton are similar to Joey. We know Dana loves both Melton and Cole, who are both left handed hitters, so Joey was duplicative. Leon gives you a right-handed version of basically the same thing.
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8:40p, 7/29/24
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If this truly is the deal for a rental, it's absolute *****

But look at it this way:

Wagner probably was going to be nothing more than organizational depth. Didn't he project as a 2B because of his arm?

2015 said the organization was not as high on Lopes as the fans.

Bloss was only in the majors out of necessity.

That said, the trade is still *****
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There is no way this is real. Absolutely no way
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In reply to MaxPower • 8:41p, 7/29/24
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MaxPower said:
Wagner is a JAG. Loperfido has serious K issues and isn't exactly young. He may figure it out but I wouldn't be shocked if he's also a JAG. Bloss to me is the biggest loss but we have done fairly well in developing SP. Agree the totality of the value seems like way too much but as been said a top 5 prospect for us may be seen as a top 10-15 prospect elsewhere.

The odd part to me is you are trying to win and gave up 2 guys on your big league roster. Who takes Joey's role? Leon?

I agree with all of this … not really upset by the fact of who we gave up but all of them for any rental not named Juan Soto just defies belief.
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Absolutely fleeced. Incredible
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Sooo this dude just replaces Bloss in the rotation? Lol
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ESPN's trade grades have the Astros winning this trade ... I just can't fathom it. If Kikuchi was more than a serviceable 4/5 guy that shouldn't be pitching a playoff game, then I'd understand
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8:42p, 7/29/24
I'm livid man. In what world is this a good trade?
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In reply to BayAg_14 • 8:42p, 7/29/24
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BayAg_14 said:
I'm livid man. In what world is this a good trade?


In Canada?
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8:42p, 7/29/24
James click yall
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Now Cabbage gets to play a lot more. YAY!
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In reply to CoachRTM • 8:43p, 7/29/24
CoachRTM said:
This is a franchise/dynasty defining moment.

Kikuchi isn't even in the playoff rotation. He's a pure innings eater for the regular season.
None of the guys we traded are franchise type talents. Kikuchi owns the Orioles and Yanks so he better be starting any playoff games against them. He can also be a lefty bullpen option if it's not a good starting matchup.

It doesn't look like a good trade purely on value but Bloss is the only guy we gave up I have any fear of thinking "Wow I wish we didn't trade that guy"
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The ONLY way I can see redemption for Dana is a WS ring with Kikuchi being an key piece in postseason.
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Goodness


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