It was always going to take three.MaxPower said:
Abreu looks much worse in hindsight. I don't think many fans at the time thought it was a terrible signing. Most thought he'd be an above average hitter for the first year or two then probably bad year 3. From a GM perspective, the question is if Click could have gotten him for two years, maybe with a vesting option. How much better off would we be if that had been the case?
Montero is the one everyone knew was idiotic. Hader is more of a philosophical question. Do you want that much tied up on one reliever? Teams that have done that are the likes of the Mets and Angels, not exactly great company.
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Hader has had some bad stretches in the past. 2022 wasn't good all year and 2020 he was terrible down the stretch. My point being he isn't bulletproof like some closers but he has shown he can self correct and be lights out for long stretches.
MaxPower said:
Hader has had some bad stretches in the past. 2022 wasn't good all year and 2020 he was terrible down the stretch. My point being he isn't bulletproof like some closers but he has shown he can self correct and be lights out for long stretches.
He had basically one flat out terrible month in 22 but outside of that he's probably most consistently good to great arm over the last 8 year for a reliever. Relievers are know to have major ups and downs and he's had very flew relative to his peers.
Out of all the concerns right now, I'm least concerned with Hader. Relievers are pretty volatile and it's common for them to hit a rough patch. I trust him to figure things out.
Am I the only one who wishes they were a little more confident in JV? His numbers and data seemed to take a step down last year. Obviously we just need arms- but I'm curious to see how effective he'll be.
Am I the only one who wishes they were a little more confident in JV? His numbers and data seemed to take a step down last year. Obviously we just need arms- but I'm curious to see how effective he'll be.
Down from a Cy Young season and his peak seasons but still good.
96% in Pitching Run Value.
He's not going to strike guys out at a 30% clip anymore. And he may get touched up a little more often. But he's still a top end arm if he repeats 2023. If he takes the next step in decline/age then we're getting a #3 type who eats innings. Still useful and paid fairly (17 M).
96% in Pitching Run Value.
He's not going to strike guys out at a 30% clip anymore. And he may get touched up a little more often. But he's still a top end arm if he repeats 2023. If he takes the next step in decline/age then we're getting a #3 type who eats innings. Still useful and paid fairly (17 M).
Forrest Whitley to the show.
Whoa. Did not expect that but I guess they need arms badly.
you breaking the news?Null and Void said:
Forrest Whitley to the show.
12 ERA... fits our reliever profile.Null and Void said:
Forrest Whitley to the show.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
texasaggie2015 said:
Out of all the concerns right now, I'm least concerned with Hader. Relievers are pretty volatile and it's common for them to hit a rough patch. I trust him to figure things out.
Am I the only one who wishes they were a little more confident in JV? His numbers and data seemed to take a step down last year. Obviously we just need arms- but I'm curious to see how effective he'll be.
I'm concerned about JV and Lance. People hinging their hopes on them coming back and pitching to form are asking for a lot
Farmer1906 said:
Down from a Cy Young season and his peak seasons but still good.
96% in Pitching Run Value.
He's not going to strike guys out at a 30% clip anymore. And he may get touched up a little more often. But he's still a top end arm if he repeats 2023. If he takes the next step in decline/age then we're getting a #3 type who eats innings. Still useful and paid fairly (17 M).
All of this.
Yeah, I don't see the news anywhere... do we have a new Ketch?
Null and Void said:
Forrest Whitley to the show.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.
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Wait where is the Whitley news posted?
Two bad months but point taken it wasn't the entire year.
Trying to confirm the Whitley news
He got the call at midnight. Should be public soon.
I can confirm the Whitley news. Good scoop. He's being called up today.
BREAKING: The Astros are trading Josh Hader to the New York Mest, and will pay 51% of his remaining salary over the next 5 years.
— FAX Sports: MLB (@MLBONFAX) April 16, 2024
"My career in Houston never had a chance," a stunned Hader told reporters.
"I'd have done much better if Machete was still around." pic.twitter.com/63SkJbE2ny
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Source: The Astros are calling up pitching prospect Forrest Whitley, the #17 pick in the 2016 draft
— Michael Schwab (@michaelschwab13) April 16, 2024
He last pitched for the Space Cowboys on April 13th and was hitting close to 98 MPH with his fastball
He is already on the 40-man roster so a player will just need to be optioned
Schwab is on it as well.
Null and Void said:
He got the call at midnight. Should be public soon.
Bonda?
Whitley going to start or go to the BP?
Bullpen unless something has changed since my last conversation about him
Edit: Yep. Bullpen.
Edit: Yep. Bullpen.
The Astros are calling up Forrest Whitley, a source tells @TheAthletic. Once baseball’s top pitching prospect, Whitley gets his first call up after enduring a myriad of injuries. Whitley will work as a reliever for a bullpen that needed a fresh arm.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 16, 2024
I was told bullpen as well.
curious to find out how a rangers fan got the scoop on the 'whitley to the show' news
https://ts.la/eric59704
Haven't gotten confirmation but I'm assuming Arrighetti is going back down to AAA
I don't know if I'm excited about Whitley or scared.
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Whitley has made 3 relief appearances (12.00 ERA, 3 IP, 4 K, 3 HR) this season in AAA:
— Adam Wexler (@AdamJWexler) April 16, 2024
4/7: IP, H, R, HR, K
4/10: IP, 3H, 3R, 2HR, 2k
4/13: IP, BB, K
He'll be the 2nd-to-last player from the top 20 (Whitley, drafted 17th) in the 2016 draft to make MLB debut. (Jay Groome) https://t.co/EUwMZAzxID
He'll fit right in
Yeah, like I said, I'm surprised but I guess it's now or never. I was told a few days ago his fastball is extremely flat and will likely get crushed at the big league level. We'll see.
texasaggie2015 said:
Yeah, like I said, I'm surprised but I guess it's now or never. I was told a few days ago his fastball is extremely flat and will likely get crushed at the big league level. We'll see.
Crane is typing up the $95M contract now.
Good. Maybe Seth's arm won't fall off now.
Dana is just playing reliever roulette. Spin the dial, pull the trigger and pray you don't shoot yourself. So far it's been mostly hit. As in hit yourself.
Maybe this one works.
I would have been tempted to leave arrighetti up in long relief. He's already stretched out. If Hunter is going to get a start, just make it a tandem and plan on these guys getting 3-3.2 IP each max. 4 would be amazing but who knows if you can get that out of them.
Maybe this one works.
I would have been tempted to leave arrighetti up in long relief. He's already stretched out. If Hunter is going to get a start, just make it a tandem and plan on these guys getting 3-3.2 IP each max. 4 would be amazing but who knows if you can get that out of them.
I literally ran into him at the gym shortly after his TJ surgery. We are both the same height, so we kinda connected from a workout routine perspective. No clue who he was until he mentioned being in the Astros organization. A couple of weeks later we realized we were neighbors. Good kid. Wish him the best.
Ryan Pressly when he gets the call in the bullpen to get a save opportunity in the 9th pic.twitter.com/BIv0lxBv11
— astrosmemes (@astros_memes) April 16, 2024
No matter what!
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
Epstein didn't do, you know, the thing...
I'm the rare Astros/Cowboys/Spurs fan. We do exist
I feel like it's now or never for Whitley. Maybe he'll be like bullpen's Blanco. Unlikely, but right now, I could live with a 4.5 - 5 ERA out of him.
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