The D said:

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Sloppy. Joe espada has this team playing like dog ****

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France is a #5 starter on a mediocre team. He's our #2 right now. Espada can only make so much lemonade out of dogturds

Do we have to wait until June for Phil Garner to take over?

Credit where it's due…Dusty Baker was obviously better than we thought; this whole managing staff is trash and promoting Espada vs. blowing them all out and keeping the same **** going is looking like a terrible idea.

I'm starting to believe that this is a rebuild year

I don't think Espada has done a bad job. What is he supposed to do with this craptacular performance by almost literally everyone

Twisted Helix said:

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You can't pen this on Espada, he doesn't have any pieces to play with.

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Our starting rotation is thin. But we don't have any pieces? Really? We have one of the better lineups in baseball. Or should. Before the season started our back end of our bullpen was touted as the best in baseball.

DeProfundis said:

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I don't think Espada has done a bad job. What is he supposed to do with this craptacular performance by almost literally everyone

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But at what point is it on him when everyone is underachieving? I mean a manager's job includes more than in game decisions and line up cards.

DeProfundis said:

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I don't think Espada has done a bad job. What is he supposed to do with this craptacular performance by almost literally everyone

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When the same players from better teams continue to slip up and regress at the plate…you have a hitting coach situation. (You've had one for 3 years and it only kept going b/c the team got hot in October of '22)

When the pitching staff continues to allow anyone who wants to run on them, always has high pitch counts b/c an 0-2 count is just an opportunity to throw 4 non-competitive pitches…you have a pitching coach problem. (You've had this now for the last couple of years)

When your team is having a hard time scoring runs and you continue to have your best hitter in a spot where nobody is on-base when he comes up…you have a lineup management problem.

This is an exacerbation of the last several years and it's on Espada b/c he basically chose to kick the Dusty can down the road and he is proving that he isn't ready.

You can blame the injuries to the staff yes… but only 4 games have been started by guys who were not previously in the 2023 rotation. And in those games we are 2-2

So 2-8 (not including tonight) in games started by our guys we knew would be in the rotation before the season (Framber, Javier, France and Brown)

Twisted Helix said:

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Watching that pitch with 2 outs and 2 on.

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And no reaction. Zero urgency, just like Espada said.