Pirates and Tigers are the only undefeated teams right now?

3B Paul 97 said:

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Pirates and Tigers are the only undefeated teams right now?

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Correct. And the Tigers get the winless Mets starting today tomorrow (with a double header).

It helps that we have tomorrow off to give Blanco an extra day of rest.

Farmer1906 said:

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Bregxit said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Bregxit said:

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Is Espada overmanaging or is he the oppo of Dusty and is managing completely by analytics?

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I think the fact he left Blanco in for all 9 was clear he's not just doing everything the book tells him to.

But don't we want a manager that aligns with "the book" a very high % of the time?

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I wasn't complaining. Just making an observation. I think it's funny we have calls for Espada to shake up the lineup when under Dusty there were complaints that he never had the same lineup day to day. I think Joe is doing fine. The guys have to execute.

And I think with Blanco, the book says let the kid get his no-hitter with a 10 run lead.

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Not in today's analytics.

Don't let them face a pitcher for the 3rd and 4th time.
Don't run the PC high, especially when he hasn't been fully stretched out in April.

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What do you consider a "high" PC? Didn't he finish the game with PC of 105?

Presuming all goes well, he stays on normal rest and Justin Verlander only needs the two rehab starts, he could rejoin the Astros rotation on April 17 against the Braves at Minute Maid Park

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 3, 2024

Astros-Rangers probables at Globe Life Field:

Friday: Hunter Brown vs. Cody Bradford
Saturday: TBA vs. Jon Gray
Sunday: Ronel Blanco vs. Dane Dunning
Monday: Framber Valdez vs. Andrew Heaney

Saturday is J.P. France’s scheduled turn. He’s currently on the paternity list.

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 3, 2024

txags92 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Bregxit said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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Bregxit said:

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Is Espada overmanaging or is he the oppo of Dusty and is managing completely by analytics?

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I think the fact he left Blanco in for all 9 was clear he's not just doing everything the book tells him to.

But don't we want a manager that aligns with "the book" a very high % of the time?

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I wasn't complaining. Just making an observation. I think it's funny we have calls for Espada to shake up the lineup when under Dusty there were complaints that he never had the same lineup day to day. I think Joe is doing fine. The guys have to execute.

And I think with Blanco, the book says let the kid get his no-hitter with a 10 run lead.

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Not in today's analytics.

Don't let them face a pitcher for the 3rd and 4th time.
Don't run the PC high, especially when he hasn't been fully stretched out in April.

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What do you consider a "high" PC? Didn't he finish the game with PC of 105?

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How often do guys start an inning with a PC higher than 90? Sure it happens, but its uncommon. Don't act like yall don't know how the game is played/managed now.

EastCoastAgNc said:

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Presuming all goes well, he stays on normal rest and Justin Verlander only needs the two rehab starts, he could rejoin the Astros rotation on April 17 against the Braves at Minute Maid Park

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 3, 2024

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The Space Cowboys play in Albuquerque next week, so I wonder if they would send him with the Hooks for their series in Frisco for his second start since it's closer.

spadilly said:

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EastCoastAgNc said:

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Presuming all goes well, he stays on normal rest and Justin Verlander only needs the two rehab starts, he could rejoin the Astros rotation on April 17 against the Braves at Minute Maid Park

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 3, 2024

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The Space Cowboys play in Albuquerque next week, so I wonder if they would send him with the Hooks for their series in Frisco for his second start since it's closer.

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I would think so. I think Chandler or someone else mentioned it previously.

So what you're saying is a manager should ignore the normal practice of pulling guys and take into other things, like a no hitter for a swing starter. Exactly what I complimented Espada for doing? The analytics don't care about personal achievements.

Did anybody ever hear the rationale behind pulling Framber with 2 outs in the 8th and 85 pitches instead of letting him finish the inning?

And I swear if it's something stupid like lefty/righty I'll be annoyed

It looked like he was just losing his command and just walked a guy, if I remember correctly. I am not at all mad with the move. Pressly did his job

ttha_aggie_09 said:

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It looked like he was just losing his command and just walked a guy, if I remember correctly. I am not at all mad with the move. Pressly did his job

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When a poster said Pressly was warming I was hoping it would be Framber finished the 8th and Pressly got the 9th for a 3 out save

Don't disagree

Probably had a lot to do with seeing Framber for the 3rd time and having George being right handed.

Farmer1906 said:

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So what you're saying is a manager should ignore the normal practice of pulling guys and take into other things, like a no hitter for a swing starter. Exactly what I complimented Espada for doing? The analytics don't care about personal achievements.

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I think I misunderstood your back and forth with Bregxit because I took your "Don't we want a manager who goes by the book a high percentage of the time" and "Book says don't run the pitch count high when he hasn't been fully stretched out in April" to mean you thought letting him finish was the wrong choice. I want a manager that will ignore the book/analytics in situations where there is a meaningful reason they can articulate to go another way (like a going for a no-hitter with a 10 run lead and a lowish pitch count). Dusty rarely had a meaningful argument for why he ignored the numbers and usually only used them to back up something when he turned out to randomly make the right move.

txags92 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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So what you're saying is a manager should ignore the normal practice of pulling guys and take into other things, like a no hitter for a swing starter. Exactly what I complimented Espada for doing? The analytics don't care about personal achievements.

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I think I misunderstood your back and forth with Bregxit because I took your "Don't we want a manager who goes by the book a high percentage of the time" and "Book says don't run the pitch count high when he hasn't been fully stretched out in April" to mean you thought letting him finish was the wrong choice. I want a manager that will ignore the book/analytics in situations where there is a meaningful reason they can articulate to go another way (like a going for a no-hitter with a 10 run lead and a lowish pitch count). Dusty rarely had a meaningful argument for why he ignored the numbers and usually only used them to back up something when he turned out to randomly make the right move.

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I am saying the book/analytics says to pull Blanco.

I am glad we didn't regardless of the no-hitter outcome.

I want a manager who will manage based on what the #s tell him to do a lot of the time. I think Joe will do that. But the #s aren't perfect and don't capture everything. I think leaving Blanco in is the perfect example of that.

I think we're on the same page here.

linkdude said:

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The Astros against Chris Bassitt: Altuve 4, Alvarez DH, Tucker 9, Bregman 5, Diaz 2, Singleton 3, McCormick 7, Peña 6, Dubón 8

Javier RHP

— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) April 3, 2024

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had a feeling Meyers would be on the bench today

Singleton gets his 2nd start of the week

Farmer1906 said:

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Probably had a lot to do with seeing Framber for the 3rd time and having George being right handed.

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I would have rather Framber finished the inning and then Pressly gets the clean 9th. Hader has already been overused going 4 of 6 games so was hoping he'd get an extra night off

Farmer1906 said:

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txags92 said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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So what you're saying is a manager should ignore the normal practice of pulling guys and take into other things, like a no hitter for a swing starter. Exactly what I complimented Espada for doing? The analytics don't care about personal achievements.

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I think I misunderstood your back and forth with Bregxit because I took your "Don't we want a manager who goes by the book a high percentage of the time" and "Book says don't run the pitch count high when he hasn't been fully stretched out in April" to mean you thought letting him finish was the wrong choice. I want a manager that will ignore the book/analytics in situations where there is a meaningful reason they can articulate to go another way (like a going for a no-hitter with a 10 run lead and a lowish pitch count). Dusty rarely had a meaningful argument for why he ignored the numbers and usually only used them to back up something when he turned out to randomly make the right move.

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I am saying the book/analytics says to pull Blanco.

I am glad we didn't regardless of the no-hitter outcome.

I want a manager who will manage based on what the #s tell him to do a lot of the time. I think Joe will do that. But the #s aren't perfect and don't capture everything. I think leaving Blanco in is the perfect example of that.

I think we're on the same page here.

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Agreed.

Can you look up his pitch speed from last year's games in April?

Wow. DBacks used up their entire bench and were forced to bat a relief pitcher down one run, with the bases loaded and 2 outs in extra innings... the pitcher K'd to end the ballgame. I can only imagine the Texags reaction if that ever happens to Espada.

Geraldo Perdomo pulling a hammy rounding 1st is what caused the shuttle that led to that. Real unfortunate because I wanted the Dbacks to pull that one out.