JV likes him a lot which says a lot about the way Spencer goes about things. JV has never been the type to mentor you or take you under his wing unless he really likes you. He's done that with Spencer.
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The video showed what could've happened, hence my "hindsight" comment, but I understand their reactions in the moment and wanting a souvenir along with Dubon's frustration. I hope whoever chooses to sit there is mindful of situations that can happen like being hit by a baseball or a fielder reaching over. It was fair game in this situation, and if the offense and defense were reversed, folks would be pissed if the other team made the catch.
My screenshot was obviously made in jest, but everything is magnified right now with how the season has gone.
My screenshot was obviously made in jest, but everything is magnified right now with how the season has gone.
Is/was JV that way with HB too?texasaggie2015 said:
JV likes him a lot which says a lot about the way Spencer goes about things. JV has never been the type to mentor you or take you under his wing unless he really likes you. He's done that with Spencer.
Not sure actually. I haven't heard that but it doesn't mean it didn't happen.
Point of clarification: EV on that ball was only 91.8, so no big deal to take one off the chest if needed.texasaggie2015 said:
Yeah, we'll have to agree to disagree. He's not a "stupid ass fan". He's a guy reacting to a ball coming at him 100+mph and making a split second decision that I'm sure he regrets.
Again, maybe you guys are smarter than me and I'm just way off base and process things slow.
Whether or not you think that the 2024 season is lost, we need to trade for a controllable SP.
I don't think a full-scale rebuild is warranted to 2025 and beyond and therefore, unless you want to be a true bottom-feeder, you need to bring in a competitive controllable arm.
You have five healthy starters remaining, with no practical depth other than pure fodder. I don't think any of our legitimate prospects are ready to contribute on the mound. You just signed an extra fodder guy in the last week.
Yes, you may get reinforcements from McCullers and Garcia, but even beyond the riskiness in counting on that, you have the load management issues you will face with Blanco and Arrighetti.
We need to acquire an arm with at least 1-2 years more control both to try to salvage this season, but also for the sake of next year and protecting our young talent. Depending on how hard you want to force this issue this year, you can make the argument for or against acquiring an additional RP or LH bat, but I think SP just became non-negotiable.
I don't think a full-scale rebuild is warranted to 2025 and beyond and therefore, unless you want to be a true bottom-feeder, you need to bring in a competitive controllable arm.
You have five healthy starters remaining, with no practical depth other than pure fodder. I don't think any of our legitimate prospects are ready to contribute on the mound. You just signed an extra fodder guy in the last week.
Yes, you may get reinforcements from McCullers and Garcia, but even beyond the riskiness in counting on that, you have the load management issues you will face with Blanco and Arrighetti.
We need to acquire an arm with at least 1-2 years more control both to try to salvage this season, but also for the sake of next year and protecting our young talent. Depending on how hard you want to force this issue this year, you can make the argument for or against acquiring an additional RP or LH bat, but I think SP just became non-negotiable.
If I can insert myself as the long-standing voice of reason, I would dive headfirst onto a concrete barrier to try and get a home run ball, then demand Mauricio Dubon gave me a piggy back ride around the outfield while I pointed at the ball and yelled "USA!" and the PA system played "You're the Best Around" from The Karate Kid.
I'm hoping we can trade for a starter and reliever eventually but will settle for a win and no more injuries/"contusions" today.
Agree 100%. If we're going to try to stay in the race and try to win the division (and not be sellers), then SP just became the #1 need, and I'd argue a mandatory need. And the sooner the better for reasons you stated (with load management, etc.).SpaceCityAg05 said:
Whether or not you think that the 2024 season is lost, we need to trade for a controllable SP.
I don't think a full-scale rebuild is warranted to 2025 and beyond and therefore, unless you want to be a true bottom-feeder, you need to bring in a competitive controllable arm.
You have five healthy starters remaining, with no practical depth other than pure fodder. I don't think any of our legitimate prospects are ready to contribute on the mound. You just signed an extra fodder guy in the last week.
Yes, you may get reinforcements from McCullers and Garcia, but even beyond the riskiness in counting on that, you have the load management issues you will face with Blanco and Arrighetti.
We need to acquire an arm with at least 1-2 years more control both to try to salvage this season, but also for the sake of next year and protecting our young talent. Depending on how hard you want to force this issue this year, you can make the argument for or against acquiring an additional RP or LH bat, but I think SP just became non-negotiable.
Agree, though I don't know how we get one. Maybe one of the Rays guys coming back from injury can be acquired cheaply. Springs has several years of control and is due back in a month or two. Maybe doesn't help a lot this year but could be a big piece next year.SpaceCityAg05 said:
Whether or not you think that the 2024 season is lost, we need to trade for a controllable SP.
I don't think a full-scale rebuild is warranted to 2025 and beyond and therefore, unless you want to be a true bottom-feeder, you need to bring in a competitive controllable arm.
You have five healthy starters remaining, with no practical depth other than pure fodder. I don't think any of our legitimate prospects are ready to contribute on the mound. You just signed an extra fodder guy in the last week.
Yes, you may get reinforcements from McCullers and Garcia, but even beyond the riskiness in counting on that, you have the load management issues you will face with Blanco and Arrighetti.
We need to acquire an arm with at least 1-2 years more control both to try to salvage this season, but also for the sake of next year and protecting our young talent. Depending on how hard you want to force this issue this year, you can make the argument for or against acquiring an additional RP or LH bat, but I think SP just became non-negotiable.
I'm confident enough now to say the Astros have had discussions with teams involving a handful of starters and relievers in the last week or so. Toronto is one of them.
Justin Verlander taking care of some young fans today pic.twitter.com/Jbt8JSnBc8
— Ari Alexander (@AriA1exander) June 5, 2024
Bregman was hit by a pitch on the back of his hand last night. He said an X-ray was negative and he played the rest of the game but had some swelling post-game. Mauricio Dubón will start at third base today and Jake Meyers will start in center field. https://t.co/h2X3HJAFS8
— Matt Kawahara (@matthewkawahara) June 5, 2024
New Astros lineup: Altuve 4, Peña 6, Alvarez 7, Meyers 8, Singleton DH, Diaz 2, Cabbage 9, Abreu 3, Dubón 5
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) June 5, 2024
Blanco RHP
EastCoastAgNc said:New Astros lineup: Altuve 4, Peña 6, Alvarez 7, Meyers 8, Singleton DH, Diaz 2, Cabbage 9, Abreu 3, Dubón 5
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) June 5, 2024
Blanco RHP
15 runs for the Astros today.
Beat40 said:EastCoastAgNc said:New Astros lineup: Altuve 4, Peña 6, Alvarez 7, Meyers 8, Singleton DH, Diaz 2, Cabbage 9, Abreu 3, Dubón 5
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) June 5, 2024
Blanco RHP
15 runs for the Astros today.
Keep it under 10 to avoid the curse
Pena in 2 spot well earned
Jake in cleanup hide your daughters
Dubon at third, exactly what this thread wanted a few weeks ago.
If only Kessinger were still up to play 3B and they had found a way to get that Joey guy up to play in the OF.
Swap Kessinger and Hensley for Altuve and Alvarez and it would rival some of those lineups early last year.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
FIFYMathguy64 said:
If only Kessinger were still up to play 3B and they had found a way to get that Joey guy up to play in theOF.first base.
Mathguy64 said:
If only Kessinger were still up to play 3B and they had found a way to get that Joey guy up to play in the OF.
I'll bump my post from yesterday but they couldn't call up Joey.
EastCoastAgNc said:Beat40 said:EastCoastAgNc said:New Astros lineup: Altuve 4, Peña 6, Alvarez 7, Meyers 8, Singleton DH, Diaz 2, Cabbage 9, Abreu 3, Dubón 5
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) June 5, 2024
Blanco RHP
15 runs for the Astros today.
Keep it under 10 to avoid the curse
Rooting for 20 then. No such thing as a 10 run curse.
It's freaking baseball. 10 runs are rare, so it makes sense you don't perform as well the day after you plate 10. Also, when it happens within a series, usually 10 runs is happening to the backend of the rotation, so the next game is the front of the rotation, which means less runs are usually scored.
I choose logic over curses. Much more fun to root for runs than be upset the go over 10!
texasaggie2015 said:
Also… some clarity on the Cabbage instead of Loperfido situation.
I asked about it and was told a player must be down for 10 days before being called back up unless replacing a player on the IL. It hasn't quite been 10 days yet since he was optioned.
I think today is the 10th day FWIW
I'm fine with getting both Jake and Dubon in the lineup right now. Let Bregman heal up these two days before the weekend.
texasaggie2015 said:Mathguy64 said:
If only Kessinger were still up to play 3B and they had found a way to get that Joey guy up to play in the OF.
I'll bump my post from yesterday but they couldn't call up Joey.
Not without putting Tucker on the IL.
Nick Hernandez will wear No. 72 for the Astros. José Urquidy goes to the 60-day IL to clear a spot on the 40-man roster.
— Chandler Rome (@Chandler_Rome) June 5, 2024
The #WhiteSox are willing to trade OF Luis Robert Jr. and SP Garrett Crochet, per @JeffPassan pic.twitter.com/ZkeycLEHgt
— MLB Deadline News (@MLBDeadlineNews) June 4, 2024
EastCoastAgNc said:The #WhiteSox are willing to trade OF Luis Robert Jr. and SP Garrett Crochet, per @JeffPassan pic.twitter.com/ZkeycLEHgt
— MLB Deadline News (@MLBDeadlineNews) June 4, 2024
Give them everyone for them both.
Loperfido, Melton, Spaghetti, Chas, etc.
Complex deals are always unlikely, but given our affinity for talks with them last season, I wonder if we would indeed be revisiting structures of deals that involve the Abreu/Benintendi swap (net gain for the White Sox given less money on Abreu's deal), with us sending major prospect and ML talent for a combination of Robert/Crochet.
Again, these megadeals almost never happen with all of the moving parts, but these are weird circumstances, not only with the buying and selling, but both teams stuck with bad contracts and Abreu being more tenable for for the White Sox due to sentimentality.
Benintendi could be hidden on the bench as a ridiculously expensive 4th OF used exclusively against RHP. Trade a wart for a wart underneath a deal to also get help.
Again, these megadeals almost never happen with all of the moving parts, but these are weird circumstances, not only with the buying and selling, but both teams stuck with bad contracts and Abreu being more tenable for for the White Sox due to sentimentality.
Benintendi could be hidden on the bench as a ridiculously expensive 4th OF used exclusively against RHP. Trade a wart for a wart underneath a deal to also get help.
Let's play ball boys
Not even joking, is Robert an upgrade over Meyers considering injury history?
When healthy, Luis Robert is elite. I understand injury concerns though.
I think Robert has higher upside, but is less dependable.
However, that is another place that gets interesting - Robert and Meyers essentially have the same amount of club control. Robert's pay is locked in, while Meyers will have 3 years of uncertain numbers in arbitration coming up. How would Chicago feel about that net swap and therefore how might that affect the math in a trade involving Crochet?
Again, the odds of being able to put together a complex enough trade that includes Robert, Crochet, Abreu, Benintendi, Meyers, plus more is slim to none, but it is an interesting hypothetical.
However, that is another place that gets interesting - Robert and Meyers essentially have the same amount of club control. Robert's pay is locked in, while Meyers will have 3 years of uncertain numbers in arbitration coming up. How would Chicago feel about that net swap and therefore how might that affect the math in a trade involving Crochet?
Again, the odds of being able to put together a complex enough trade that includes Robert, Crochet, Abreu, Benintendi, Meyers, plus more is slim to none, but it is an interesting hypothetical.
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