***** 2024 Houston Astros Season Thread ***** [Staff Warning]

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Because the Yankees and Guards are only a game apart.
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Big congrats to Breggy. Might as well induct him now.



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Here are the active players with a WAR greater than Barnes.

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All I do is Nguyen said:

Beat40 said:

W said:

the Astros are catching San Diego's best 3 starters

Darvish, Cease, and King
Good, means the Astros sweep!
We own Darvish, Cease can be scary tho


None of those guys have ERAs over 4, so we should score 10-15 runs each game
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gambochaman said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

Beat40 said:

W said:

the Astros are catching San Diego's best 3 starters

Darvish, Cease, and King
Good, means the Astros sweep!
We own Darvish, Cease can be scary tho


None of those guys have ERAs over 4, so we should score 10-15 runs each game
Can any of them consistently throw a slider in the opposite batter's box? If so, we are doomed.
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Jake has a .519 OPS since the all-star break

with a 28% strikeout rate

it's okay to look for other options
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I added hits as an extra metric.

Who on this list makes the HOF?

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Final predictions for AL playoff teams?

1. CLE
2. NYY
3. Astros
4. O's
5. Royals
6. Mariners
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Wabs said:

Final predictions for AL playoff teams?

1. CLE
2. NYY
3. Astros
4. O's
5. Royals
6. Mariners
I do not want any part of Seattle in a 3 game series.
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I really don't either necessarily. Probably the best pitching. However, their lineup can be ass at times.
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If anybody jumps the Twins for the last spot itll be the Tigers
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Mathguy64 said:

I added hits as an extra metric.

Who on this list makes the HOF?


Assuming the rest of their careers go the way they are currently going, I think the following:

- Altuve
- Arenado
- Machado
- Trout
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Mathguy64 said:

I added hits as an extra metric.

Who on this list makes the HOF?


Gut feeling with no further research?

Trout
Betts
Goldy
Freeman
Machado
Arenado
Altuve
Ramirez
Judge
Harper
Lindor

Correa & Bregman have a path there, but I don't see it as very likely at all.
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txags92 said:

gambochaman said:

All I do is Nguyen said:

Beat40 said:

W said:

the Astros are catching San Diego's best 3 starters

Darvish, Cease, and King
Good, means the Astros sweep!
We own Darvish, Cease can be scary tho


None of those guys have ERAs over 4, so we should score 10-15 runs each game
Can any of them consistently throw a slider in the opposite batter's box? If so, we are doomed.

Yeah I'm not betting on us against Cease. We'll see with the other two.
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Mathguy64 said:

I added hits as an extra metric.

Who on this list makes the HOF?


Aaron Judge was elected to the Hall of Fame while you were getting out your red pen.
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CFTXAG10 said:


Anyone try this bourbon and want to give a quick review?
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Slider %
10. Meyers - 28.3%
17. Pena - 27.6%
26. Diaz - 26.6%
43. Altuve - 25.1%
...
90. Alvarez - 19.6% (Lowest on team)

Yordan is also extremely low on Sinkers. He's attacked more so with Fourseam & Curves. Random but interesting to me.
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Farmer1906 said:

Slider %
10. Meyers - 28.3%
17. Pena - 27.6%
26. Diaz - 26.6%
43. Altuve - 25.1%
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90. Alvarez - 19.6% (Lowest on team)

Yordan is also extremely low on Sinkers. He's attacked more so with Fourseam & Curves. Random but interesting to me.
To me, says that is a result of plate discipline. Make the pitcher be accurate to the zone, which is fourseamers and curves.
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Mathguy64 said:

I added hits as an extra metric.

Who on this list makes the HOF?


In: Trout, Betts, Goldy, Freeman, Machado, Altuve, Judge, Harper

Maybe/ a lot work to do but have a shot: Ramirez, Lindor

Arenado is a product of Coors, but voters have shown they dont care how much that inflates your numbers. No for me.

Nope on the rest.
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I think his 10 gold gloves help his case.
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Farmer1906 said:

I think his 10 gold gloves help his case.
The counterargument is "there wasnt anyone else in the NL to give it to."

But yes his defense is elite.
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Mathguy64 said:

Farmer1906 said:

I think his 10 gold gloves help his case.
The counterargument is "there wasnt anyone else in the NL to give it to."

But yes his defense is elite.
I do like the general idea that if the numbers are there, or are very, very close, and they were the best player at that position for a decade for their generation, that player should be HOF.

I think Machado and Arenado fit that bill if they continue to do what they have done the next 4-5 years.
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Fair argument.

Arenado is already falling and falling fast. What you see with him is likely all you will get.
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If he's done then probably no. If he can manage 3-4 more years as avg player, He'll get to 2200+ hits and 375 HR. Compare him to his peers in the HOF at 3B and its close. Kind of Tony Perez lite.
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Farmer1906 said:

If he's done then probably no. If he can manage 3-4 more years as avg player, He'll get to 2200+ hits and 375 HR. Compare him to his peers in the HOF at 3B and its close. Kind of Tony Perez lite.
Even better comp. Scott Rolen. Why should Rolen be in over Arenado? I am coming from a neutral position. I don't have a strong feeling about Arenado. I just think he'll get in.
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Farmer1906 said:

If he's done then probably no. If he can manage 3-4 more years as avg player, He'll get to 2200+ hits and 375 HR. Compare him to his peers in the HOF at 3B and its close. Kind of Tony Perez lite.


He's got 3 years and $74MM left. His last 3 years OPS+ are 151, 108 and 98. STL was rumored to be willing to move him last year and this but that contract is trouble.

I think hes already begun the slide.
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Farmer1906 said:

Farmer1906 said:

If he's done then probably no. If he can manage 3-4 more years as avg player, He'll get to 2200+ hits and 375 HR. Compare him to his peers in the HOF at 3B and its close. Kind of Tony Perez lite.
Even better comp. Scott Rolen. Why should Rolen be in over Arenado? I am coming from a neutral position. I don't have a strong feeling about Arenado. I just think he'll get in.


I didn't think Rolen should have made it either.
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Mathguy64 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Farmer1906 said:

If he's done then probably no. If he can manage 3-4 more years as avg player, He'll get to 2200+ hits and 375 HR. Compare him to his peers in the HOF at 3B and its close. Kind of Tony Perez lite.
Even better comp. Scott Rolen. Why should Rolen be in over Arenado? I am coming from a neutral position. I don't have a strong feeling about Arenado. I just think he'll get in.


I didn't think Rolen should have made it either.


Fair take. I think it's just how weak the position is overall. High high end but not much after it.

The last 10+ years we have a pretty great crop. Arenado, Chappy, Breggy, Ramirez, Beltre, Longoria, Wright, Machado, Donaldson, Turner, & Devers.
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Wabs said:

Final predictions for AL playoff teams?

1. CLE
2. NYY
3. Astros
4. O's
5. Royals
6. Mariners


1. Yankees
2. Guardians
3. Astros
4. Orioles
5. Royals
6. Twins

ALCS: Yankees vs Astros
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Farmer1906 said:

Mathguy64 said:

Farmer1906 said:

Farmer1906 said:

If he's done then probably no. If he can manage 3-4 more years as avg player, He'll get to 2200+ hits and 375 HR. Compare him to his peers in the HOF at 3B and its close. Kind of Tony Perez lite.
Even better comp. Scott Rolen. Why should Rolen be in over Arenado? I am coming from a neutral position. I don't have a strong feeling about Arenado. I just think he'll get in.


I didn't think Rolen should have made it either.


Fair take. I think it's just how weak the position is overall. High high end but not much after it.

The last 10+ years we have a pretty great crop. Arenado, Chappy, Breggy, Ramirez, Beltre, Longoria, Wright, Machado, Donaldson, Turner, & Devers.
Taking Beltre out of that list since he's older, Arenado and Machado are the best of the bunch for me. They've been the most dominant both offensively and defensively for the past decade. I think Devers might end up the best offensively, but I'd still give the edge to both Arenado and Machado because their defense is so damn good.
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Do you have to drink it as fast as he pitched a game?
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Farmer1906 said:

Here are the active players with a WAR greater than Barnes.


This just shows how bad the Angels have been.
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