*****Official 2023-2024 Texas Rangers Off-season Thread*****

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alvtimes said:

yall are forgetting
* Adolis is on steroids*
And giving Monty no credit at all for shutting them down in the playoffs than clamoring on their thread that they should sign him now.

Hmm
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DallasAg 94 said:

Grapesoda2525 said:



- Dusty had a "bone to pick" with their backup catcher Diaz and was pissed that they traded one of his "favorites" Straw for him. Also supposedly Dusty loved Maldy and wasn't going to let maldy sit on the bench too long because of feelings, bonds, and friendships.

This Straw?!
https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/03/guardians-myles-straw-waivers.html
Talk about the Straw that broke... nevermind.

Yeah it's unfortunate that the Indians GM was foolish enough to make that trade. Maton and Diaz have both helped the Astros a lot.
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Church was arguably the best RP of spring training for the Rangers. He didn't do anything wrong, and other than getting more innings, doesn't really need to fix or work on anything. He was sent down because the Rangers don't want to lose Urena, and also because early in the season they're going to need pitchers capable of throwing multiple innings...Church is more of a one inning guy, he has options, and so down he goes. Tough break for the kid, because he pitched great in Arizona.
alvtimes
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Rangers lose! We suck again! Fire JD! LOL
DFW holiday on Thurs.
Those going to game/banner raise enjoy
Everyone else…. see yall here!!!!!
Mr. Gigem…… lets fire this thing off!!!!
gigem1223
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BuT mUh FaNgRApHs
Tksymm7
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Wyatt Langford #36
Kyle98
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I'll be there on Sunday! Last one for me for a while. Moving to NoVA next month.
DallasAg 94
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Actually, he had 5BB in 10.2 IP. Sure, he had 14 SO.

I don't disagree with why he was sent down. I am very positive on him and indeed expect him to contribute in 2024. He is giving up 4.6 BB9 in AA and 5.7 in AAA.

With the thin air in Az, I say let him go to Round Rock for a few weeks to let him regain some control and bring him up.

I'm really hoping most of these guys show positive and make the Rangers have some hard decisions.

Interview with Bochy the last couple days he said there will be guys that did everything they asked of them, and still get sent down and that is the nature of where the Rangers are.

Hopefully some team (NL) needs Urena more than than the Rangers when it is time to bring Church up.
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Tksymm7 said:

Wyatt Langford #36
This will be interesting.

I had heard Ornelas had already taken 36, last year. The radio was speculating if Wyatt would get 36, since that was his number at Florida.

Was Langford entitled to any number not established or as a courtesy do you ask?!

I've never met Langford but he seems the type that wouldn't ask for it... but likely offered it.

Thoughts?

https://www.mlb.com/player/jonathan-ornelas-680716


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You don't get to claim a number if you are in the minors. Ornelas didn't make the team, he doesn't get a vote. If he were a veteran they might extend that courtesy
DallasAg 94
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So, Walsh, Urena, and Langford are all NRI that need a move on the 40 to open up a spot.

Obvious possibilities include Mahle and Scherzer to the 60.

Recent hope was that Scherzer could be available late May/early June within the 60 day window (including backdating). I'm sure he wants to get back as soon as possible.

I don't think Mahle is projected to return until July/Aug, so he is a no-brainer.

Jose Barrero is likely to go. I'd like to see him ultimately end up in the minors for the Rangers.

I think those are 3 moves.
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DallasAg 94 said:

So, Walsh, Urena, and Langford are all NRI that need a move on the 40 to open up a spot.

Obvious possibilities include Mahle and Scherzer to the 60.

Recent hope was that Scherzer could be available late May/early June within the 60 day window (including backdating). I'm sure he wants to get back as soon as possible.

I don't think Mahle is projected to return until July/Aug, so he is a no-brainer.

Jose Barrero is likely to go. I'd like to see him ultimately end up in the minors for the Rangers.

I think those are 3 moves.

Was Barrero on the 40?
alvtimes
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Damn, I know we are pretty set, but just saw J. Montgomery probabe to Dbacks….. ugh!!! Better than the astros I suppose!
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Yet another super random signing this offseason. This whole thing has been so weird. I'm curious what the money is.
MrCoachEricTaylor
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1 yr $25mill
Quincey P. Morris
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So a punt to next season and the Diamondbacks thinking if they don't do well this year they can trade him. Guess that makes some sense.
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Yeah I had a popup message saying Montgomery to the DBacks on a one year deal. Don't bother clicking for more details.

So there's always next years free agent class if we want to give it a go then. We'd have more salary room and hopefully a long term tv deal in place.
MrCoachEricTaylor
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Yeah, win win I guess! I'd happily make $25mill to play a season of baseball lol

That makes a pretty nice top of the rotation in Zona though. Gallen, Kelly, Monty, Pfaadt.
CowtownAg06
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1/25 with a 25M player option for year 2 if he makes 10 starts. I wish we could have done that deal. Likely he's on the market again next year.
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CowtownAg06 said:

1/25 with a 25M player option for year 2 if he makes 10 starts. I wish we could have done that deal. Likely he's on the market again next year.


I may be wrong but I don't think there is draft pick compensation next year if he opts out. Might be a good pick up next off-season.
Double Talkin' Jive...
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Really amazing to me that a player would let his agent overplay his hand like this. Dude could easily have has $100 million guaranteed. Instead, he's gonna get a fraction of that, take all the risks of being an MLB pitcher (one that has already had one TJ surgery), and hope he can get a massive deal next year when he's a year older. I don't get it at all

It's a shame the Rangers weren't the ones signing him to that fallback deal. Would have jumped on $25mill per year as long as it stayed at 3-4 years or less.
Quincey P. Morris
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You have to think some shine is off Boras after this year. His clients came nowhere near what they wanted and Montgomery really ended up in a crappy situation.
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I can't imagine the CBT doesn't get some major overhaul in the next CBA.
DannyDuberstein
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Not to mention, I feel like all these late to camp veteran pitchers are at much higher risk of injury. They don't all need the 6 weeks of buildup that camp provides, but a more accelerated ramp-up seems like begging for trouble ahead of a long season
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I'd almost be inclined to send Montgomery and some of these guys to AAA for a few weeks.
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I'm sure they will, but it will still be a much quicker ramp-up than the gradual stretch-out that camp provides. They don't show up in February just for ****s and giggles
Quincey P. Morris
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Certainly. You'd like to think these guys haven't been sitting on their couch eating Cheetos though.
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Quincey P. Morris said:

You have to think some shine is off Boras after this year. His clients came nowhere near what they wanted and Montgomery really ended up in a crappy situation.


Some of these dudes need to show some balls and realize he works for them and not vice versa.
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Agreed. Wasn't it ARod that locked him out of conversations with the Yankees years back to get a deal done? Dude's ego has been getting in the way of his clients' best interests for a while.
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I really hate Ballys
Fuzzy Dunlop
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What's funny. Is that the players are blaming the union and want new representation. They don't think for a second that maybe Boras is the problem.
Double Talkin' Jive...
CowtownAg06
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Well one of the reasons the players wanted Meyer out was how close he and Boras are.
EastSideAg2002
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I wonder if the teams are started to balk at more of the increasing demands for longer and longer term deals instead of just the AAV. These 5-7 year long contracts when a player hits 30+ is a bit crazy given all the risk is on the teams since they are all guaranteed.
DallasAg 94
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It was reported that Lorenzen tracked everything so that when the Rangers showed interest, he was able to show them his work outs. His metrics. He was scheduled to throw simulated game session on the day he officially signed.

He knew if he wanted to shorten his time to the mound, the signing team would want everything he had done.

From what I've read, he could begin the season in the BP and ramp up as a RP. I'm guessing they'll tandem him with Bradford and flip them at some point.
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Kirby (4.5) + Lorenzen (4.5) + Robertson (10) + Mahle (5.5) = 24.5 million in payroll for 2024

Monty = 25 mill in payroll for 2024

CY pretty much went for quantity and more pitching depth instead of the one quality big fish in Monty, given the payroll constraints. The value of Lorenzen's absolute bargain of a contract really helps me lean towards that direction as well, especially knowing that Degrom and Scherzer's returns should help bolster the top of the rotation by playoff time.
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