***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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Deluxe said:

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BadAggie said:

Bellinger is there if Crane isn't done.


Not at the price Belli wants. You willing to come close to his asking price of >=$200MM for 7/8 years and hope his performance last year is what you will get for at least 50% of the contract?
At what price would you consider Belli? He does check a few big boxes for us. Lefty who can hit for power and play a good CF.

Obviously I'd never pay $200mm+ for 8+ years, but if we're in the 6/$115 ballpark, I might sign up. Granted, so would a few other teams.

I was thinking the other day about Bregman, Tucker and Framber ultimately getting somewhere in the neighborhood of 9/$270mm deals on average (Tucker probly more, Framber probly less, but you get my gist).

What if we allocated that $$ to the best ~6 players we can sign in the 5/$100mm range over the next few offseasons. Hader counts toward that. Belli would too at the right price.

You can't replace Framber, Bregman and Tucker individually. But you can maybe replace them in the aggregate of ~6 really good players.

Benefits:

1) Given our limited farm depth ready to make a MLB contribution right now, we have to put a higher premium valuation on quantity than would be ideal. Spreading six really good players around the diamond might beat three studs + three replacement level guys in our current state.

2) Limited dead years on the back-end that are inevitable in the 9+ year mega deals that Tucker, Bregman and Framber will be seeking.
Honestly, I don't trust Belli to perform at a level similar to last year.

I would only be interested in a 3-4 year deal, but that's not realistic.
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Three opt-outs
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Was told today that the Astros expect to make another signing at some point over the next few days. I know that's vague but I wasn't given a name. We'll see.

Like I said previously, I know we've spoken with Soler and Duvall recently.

And before I get attacked for being a tease, I figure some info is better than no info at all. Just sharing what I hear.
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You think it's position player or pitcher?
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Position player. I'm not sure if this is what they were referring to since they mentioned a signing and this is a trade.. but maybe. Funny timing regardless:

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For those who didn't see posted a few pages back.

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texasaggie2015
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142 strikeouts in 418 ABs last year... yikes. Worth a flyer though.
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He clearly has tools. If we can fix them then he's basically a free big leaguer.

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texasaggie2015 said:

142 strikeouts in 418 ABs last year... yikes. Worth a flyer though.
Definitely worth a flyer. Just hope this wasn't who you were hearing about. Would love for that player to be Soler...
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I think between the two, Duvall is more likely. Not saying we're likely to sign him- just more likely than Soler.

Just a hunch.
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So if he was DFA'd that means he cleared waivers and we traded for him correct?

I didn't expect him to clear waivers.
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texasaggie2015 said:

142 strikeouts in 418 ABs last year... yikes. Worth a flyer though.

I saw 142 Ks in 474 PAs at AAA SLC last year. That's a 30% K%. His BB% was 9.5%.

But he also slashed .308/.379/.596 giving him a .975 OPS. Definitely needs to cut down on his K's but sounds like he does damage at the plate and worth a look.

That being said, he's almost 27 and he may be another AAAA player.
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He can't be worse than Singleton.
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texasaggie2015 said:

Position player. I'm not sure if this is what they were referring to since they mentioned a signing and this is a trade.. but maybe. Funny timing regardless:


As others have said -- Cabbage seems like a depth and insurance pickup for organizational filler.
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texasaggie2015 said:

He can't be worse than Singleton.

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Ag_07 said:

So if he was DFA'd that means he cleared waivers and we traded for him correct?

I didn't expect him to clear waivers.
Doesn't it go: DFA, then 7 days to trade, then waivers, then assignment back to AAA club?
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joey Gallo is the movie. He's my Brad Pitt. He'll be in every scene. That's where the box office receipts come from.
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The Porkchop Express said:

joey Gallo is the movie. He's my Brad Pitt. He'll be in every scene. That's where the box office receipts come from.
Sounds like it would strike out at the box office.
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Guess I'm confused them. I thought Gallo was your Giambi.

Moving on....
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Farmer1906 said:

For those who didn't see posted a few pages back.


Guy looks like Temu Bryce Harper
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texasaggie2015 said:

142 strikeouts in 418 ABs last year... yikes. Worth a flyer though.


Lettuce know how you think Cabbage will produce.
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So Cabbage is Julks but left handed?
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I'm just waiting for an Altuve extension at this point
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tjack16 said:

I'm just waiting for an Altuve extension at this point
If that's the only "move" we make the rest of this offseason then I'll be good to go. Get to work Crane/Brown!
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Aggie1205 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

142 strikeouts in 418 ABs last year... yikes. Worth a flyer though.


Lettuce know how you think Cabbage will produce.
If he keeps hitting home runs to one section, can we name it The Salad Bar? Or Cabbage Garden?
Can we get him to change his name to Randy ad then call him Macho Man Randy Cabbage?

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Mathguy64
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The Cabbage Patch.
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Aggie1205 said:

texasaggie2015 said:

142 strikeouts in 418 ABs last year... yikes. Worth a flyer though.


Lettuce know how you think Cabbage will produce.
I'm not sure.. I'll leaf that up to you.
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I do know what is good with Cabbage. A little MEATLOAF!
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If we're going off AAA numbers, then Meyers prior to call up and injury, was way better than Cabbage
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Top 10 again
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Congrats to the Mariners for actually winning.
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Mathguy64 said:

The Cabbage Patch.


And his fan club in that section can be called the Cabbage Patch Kids.
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Both spots make sense. For Chapman and Beli. Both seem to be fine waiting jt out. Boras may not get the offers he promised his clients.
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