***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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Part of the Nats 2019 bullpen including finishing a couple of games in the WS. Hasn't been good in a few years but these are dart throws that cost nothing in the long term. Good depth for the minor leagues.
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Joe Kelly won't give up 17 for ohtani?
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The Teacherman calling out Breggy.
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Farmer1906 said:



The Teacherman calling out Breggy.



That back foot sliding out seems to be very popular in the Latin world right now. Seeing it a lot of places
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Pretty sweet that we went with that 3rd year for Montero
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bearkatag15 said:



Pretty sweet that we went with that 3rd year for Montero



Hes 27. Give him the ****in deal man


Our pen took a HUGE hit this off-season and the window is closing. Pony the fuxk up Crane
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Mr.Bond said:

bearkatag15 said:



Pretty sweet that we went with that 3rd year for Montero



Hes 27. Give him the ****in deal man


Our pen took a HUGE hit this off-season and the window is closing. Pony the fuxk up Crane
So funny man. Montero coming off an incredible year, the Astros with no GM give him 3 years, and everyone is pissed.

A guy who has historically be inconsistent wants 3 years, and the Astros with a GM don't want to give him 3 years, and you guys are pissed.
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We want to win. Being cheap won't always pay off.
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SECcess12 said:

We want to win. Being cheap won't always pay off.
Always paying keeps windows short when you're a team that can't always pay.
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SECcess12 said:

We want to win. Being cheap won't always pay off.



This sums it up
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Dubon does that as well and it looks so odd.
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It's good news we're not giving him the 3rd year.

That means either Crane learned his lesson or Dana is making baseball decisions. Both are good things
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Farmer1906 said:





Bat.Flip!
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Seems like you get a deal done with Hicks by giving him 2 years plus some type of option. Mutual, vesting, club, etc. You can even sweeten the deal with a high option buyout from the team if they don't exercise it. It'll just depend how badly we want him and what else he's being offered.
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Morosi dropping some nuggets.





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Ohtani has been so secretive about this, he's probably gonna do his own version of the LeBron decision special
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I'm guessing Ohtani to the Jays at like 11 years 505 million
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Not sure if posted, but The Athletic included this tidbit from an article yesterday when talking about additional relievers:

"Clouding the pursuit is the uncertainty surrounding Houston's budget, which Brown claims he still must discuss with Crane."

Seems... odd... for this to take place after the winter meetings, if true.

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Or it's all posturing that we don't have unlimited funds and if you want to play for a winner, you can take what we offer.
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txags11 said:

I'm guessing Ohtani to the Jays at like 11 years 505 million


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txags11 said:

I'm guessing Ohtani to the Jays at like 11 years 505 million


I'm sorry. But IMHO he's not worth that. They are paying him to be a 2 way superstar when I thing he's just going to end up as a DH. A very good DH but not the best DH.
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Mathguy64 said:

txags11 said:

I'm guessing Ohtani to the Jays at like 11 years 505 million


I'm sorry. But IMHO he's not worth that. They are paying him to be a 2 way superstar when I thing he's just going to end up as a DH. A very good DH but not the best DH.



Dude sells tickets for sure. Saw him in Atlanta in 2022 and I've never seen so many Asians in my life.
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He's arguably the best DH right now
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Ag_07 said:

He's arguably the best DH right now


IMHO Yordan is better. Of course Yordan has health issues of his own.
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If Ohtani stops pitching then he'll transition into an outfielder and probably a damn good one based on his speed, size, talent, and work ethic.
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Farmer1906 said:

If Ohtani stops pitching then he'll transition into an outfielder and probably a damn good one based on his speed, size, talent, and work ethic.


An aging OFer. This is his age 30 season with 2 TJs. That contract would go until he's 41.

I know I'm the outlier on him. I just think it's fools gold.
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Mathguy64 said:

Farmer1906 said:

If Ohtani stops pitching then he'll transition into an outfielder and probably a damn good one based on his speed, size, talent, and work ethic.


An aging OFer. This is his age 30 season with 2 TJs. That contract would go until he's 41.

I know I'm the outlier on him. I just think it's fools gold.


My point was he's either going to be a pitcher or OF long term, not just a DH.

I think you can basically give an extra 10 M (ass pull) to what a normal player is worth each season with the increase in ad and ticket revenue alone.

Baseball doesn't exist did a wild video about how Ohtani impacts $$$
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I'm not saying the contract isn't ridiculous but Ohtani is legit and one of the all time greats already. He's not fool's gold.
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I'll be legit shocked if he leaves LA. Especially for Toronto
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Ag_07 said:

I'm not saying the contract isn't ridiculous but Ohtani is legit and one of the all time greats already. He's not fool's gold.


That contract (if real) pays him $50MM to be DH for half of the 24 season. And then maybe pitch for 2-4 more seasons to then be a declining DH from age 36-41. And any time he's injured you have to replace two roster spots in one player. He's on TJ2 and had knee surgery that knocked him out once.

Father Time wins every time. That contract will be an albatross at some point. A dead smelly one at that.

It's like Toronto hasn't learned their lesson with George.

Having said that, $50MM/yr may be a bargain for top end players 3 years from now. Who knows.
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