***Official Houston Astros 2023-24 Offseason Thread*** [Staff Warning - OP]

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This dude is a troll. He talks a lot of crap and threatened to fight people when he's called out on being full of it. His opinion means nothing.
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Farmer1906 said:

When did everyone get so soft?







Who the fack is this guy? What the fack is he talking about? And why the fack does he matter?
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I'd like to have a YouTube channel where I travel the country fighting people who put up their "Fight me" Tweets and posts.
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Statement checks out with previous stories
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superaggie73 said:

Farmer1906 said:

When did everyone get so soft?







Who the fack is this guy? What the fack is he talking about? And why the fack does he matter?
Jeremy Booth, he is a past baseball scout that does some stuff with Channel 11
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What a bunch of ****ing BS. If someone doesn't want to come manage the Astros because they'll get their feelings hurt by bloggers and tweeters, then why would want them here in the first place?
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Wabs said:

What a bunch of ****ing BS. If someone doesn't want to come manage the Astros because they'll get their feelings hurt by bloggers and tweeters, then why would want them here in the first place?
I'd love to see whoever these p@$$ies are spend a day managing in NY or Philly.
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Here's the thing...Baker deserved the criticism. There's no way around it.

It wasn't like we were winning 100+ while cruising to a double digit wire to wire division championship and everyone was piling on Dusty.

We were scuffling and the best players weren't playing. What manager wouldn't get second guessed and called out?
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Booth made clear this year in his commentary that he fell on Dusty's side in the disputes on coaching and personnel. I have had the feeling for a while that he is another anti-analytics guy.
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The casual baseball fan looks at Baker's record with the Astros and sees: 4 straight ACLS, 2 WS, 1 WS win. The casual fan thinks--wow, he must be a really good manager.

But, as is the case with many things in life, the truth is a bit more nuanced then the headlines show. Making the playoffs wasn't a sure thing for quite a while, only clinching a playoff spot on the second to last day. The Astros basically backed into winning the AL West on a tiebreaker the last day. The Chaz and Diaz situations were baffling, and his dedication to Julks was almost criminal. I know he wanted to have Julks "play through it", but 3 hits over 19 games isn't getting it done.

I don't think Dusty is a terrible manager, but I also don't think he is beyond questioning or criticism. That's kind of the role you sign up for as manager--you get a lot of credit when things go your way, and you get a lot of criticism when they don't.
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Dusty's parting shot at the Houston media on his way out was nothing more than an ego-driven man trying to put off pretenses his exit was on his terms.

The ONLY reason he was our manager in 2023 is because we won it all in 2022 and the ONLY way there was even a slight chance of him returning in 2024 is if we won in 2023 AND Crane made the unilateral decision (overruling the rest of his front office) to bring the band back together.

As soon as we lost g7 to the Rangers, his fate was 100% sealed. Kudos to Crane for letting Dusty "retire" (I guess). It's just interesting that for all the accolades Dusty gets as a great baseball man and great dude, he does such petty things in defense of his ego.

Anyone trying to give credibility to Dusty's parting shot at Houston media has never seen how baseball is covered in NY/BOS. Our media is soft AF ha.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


If we hire any of these people besides Espada...

Edit: I missed Hinch in there. I would take him
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happy for Tuck
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Well deserved.
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wtf is even this question
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A rare potential Yankees/Red Sox trade. I can only recall one recently. Makes sense for both sides. Red Sox will probably need to throw in a prospect to make it work.
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tjack16 said:



wtf is even this question


Well Watt is like a full foot taller than Altuve…
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Watt probably isn't even in the top 5.
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Wabs said:

Watt probably isn't even in the top 5.


Yeah I would actually put Andre Johnson ahead of him on the Texans rankings.

From the Astros alone I'd put Altuve, Biggio, Nolan and even Correa ahead of Watt on the Houston legend rankings
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Can't compare current to former athletes. Even if you could, this wouldn't be close.
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tjack16 said:

Wabs said:

Watt probably isn't even in the top 5.


Yeah I would actually put Andre Johnson ahead of him on the Texans rankings.

From the Astros alone I'd put Altuve, Biggio, Nolan and even Correa ahead of Watt on the Houston legend rankings



Watt is the #1 Texan. Hes beloved in this city. Do you not remember Harvey? He's light years past Johnson.


Altuve, Watt, Hakeem & Earl. That's the Mount Rushmore
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Panama Red said:

tjack16 said:

Wabs said:

Watt probably isn't even in the top 5.


Yeah I would actually put Andre Johnson ahead of him on the Texans rankings.

From the Astros alone I'd put Altuve, Biggio, Nolan and even Correa ahead of Watt on the Houston legend rankings



Watt is the #1 Texan. Hes beloved in this city. Do you not remember Harvey? He's light years past Johnson.


Altuve, Watt, Hakeem & Earl. That's the Mount Rushmore



Altuve & Dream are in it. We can argue about 3 & 4.

It's probably between
Bagwell
Biggio
Watt
Earl

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Panama Red said:

tjack16 said:

Wabs said:

Watt probably isn't even in the top 5.


Yeah I would actually put Andre Johnson ahead of him on the Texans rankings.

From the Astros alone I'd put Altuve, Biggio, Nolan and even Correa ahead of Watt on the Houston legend rankings



Watt is the #1 Texan. Hes beloved in this city. Do you not remember Harvey? He's light years past Johnson.


Altuve, Watt, Hakeem & Earl. That's the Mount Rushmore

Watt's 2014 season is one of the 2-3 best by a defender ever. He should have been league MVP.
78 tackles, 20.5 sacks, 39 tackles for a loss, 4 forced fumbles, 5 fumble recoveries, 1 fumble return for a TD, and 80-yard pick six, a safety, a blocked field goal, and 3 goal-line touchdown receptions.



With how team-oriented football is, having 1 defender able to take control of a game is staggering to watch.

I loved AJ, but Watt surpassed him by the sixth year of his career.

Altuve is #1 and Hakeem is #2. I'd take Earl third, because he friggin carried the Oilers on his back to 2 AFC title games.

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Farmer1906 said:




4-5 Korean teams
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MAROON said:

Farmer1906 said:




4-5 Korean teams


He has asked for payment in spareribs
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Farmer1906 said:



That many teams need bullpen catchers?
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Beau Holder said:

Farmer1906 said:



That many teams need bullpen catchers?


Bullpen Help
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His greatest value is intel on the Astros
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Farmer1906 said:

When did everyone get so soft?


Sounds like a bunch of people that would die while curled in the fetal position in NY, Boston or Philly
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The Altuve vs Watt debate wouldn't even be a question if Altuve sought the spotlight half as hard as JJ.
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JDUB08AG said:

His greatest value is intel on the Astros


This is 100% the reason for any interest in him at all.
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