I was thinking about this the other day and by any real objective measure they are a dynasty, but a significant amount of people refuse to acknowledge it, and may never do so. There are folks in the altuve v Garcia thread that are unwilling to admit Astros are a dynasty.

What will it take, if anything, for the Astros to be unanimously considered a dynasty?

That giants team is listed on the Wikipedia page for dynasties just fyi.

I'm as big of an Astros fan as there is, and I don't yet consider them a dynasty. You've got to win at least three titles to be dynasty. The Toronto Blue Jays were not a dynasty in the 90s because they win two titles. I also don't give out dynasty for winning the LCS. The 90s Braves were dominate, but not a dynasty. Win this year, and I think there's a strong argument for a dynasty.

Still, though, the 2017 team and this team are almost like two different teams, although they do connect through the ALCS appearances. Still, though, there are really only three guys that contributed to both 2017 and the past two years.
So, I guess it would depend on your definition of dynasty at that point. Does it have to be the same core set of guys? If so, maybe this team doesn't qualify... Although, then you could almost say there hasn't been a dynasty in any sport for the past 20 years. The Patriots and Spurs had major roster turn over in their sports.

Here is the wiki intro for sports dynasty. The Astros are currently a dynasty using this definition.

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In sports, a dynasty is a team or individual that dominates their sport or league for an extended length of time. Some leagues usually maintain official lists of dynasties, often as part of a hall of fame, but in many cases, whether a team or individual has achieved a dynasty is subjective. This can result in frequent topic of debate among sports fans due to lack of consensus and agreement in the many different variables and criteria that fans may use to define a sports dynasty.[1][2][3] Merriam-Webster describes a dynasty as a "sports franchise which has a prolonged run of successful seasons".[4] Within the same sport, or even the same league, dynasties may be concurrent with each other.

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They really needed to win in 2019 or 2021 to be a dynasty. Even winning this year still won't quite be enough.

The problem is with baseball's current set up, the Astros were never the best regular season team outside of maybe 2019.

jopatura said:

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They really needed to win in 2019 or 2021 to be a dynasty. Even winning this year still won't quite be enough.

The problem is with baseball's current set up, the Astros were never the best regular season team outside of maybe 2019.

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Neither were the giants. Weren't two of their WS titles as wild cards? Good enough in regular season, but built for the post season. Literally opposite of the recent dodgers teams.

As has been stated, I'm inclined to agree that 3 titles within a 5 year span, along with their dominant post season run, will make the astros a dynasty. IMHO.

Enzomatic said:

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jopatura said:

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They really needed to win in 2019 or 2021 to be a dynasty. Even winning this year still won't quite be enough.

The problem is with baseball's current set up, the Astros were never the best regular season team outside of maybe 2019.

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Neither were the giants. Weren't two of their WS titles as wild cards? Good enough in regular season, but built for the post season. Literally opposite of the recent dodgers teams.

As has been stated, I'm inclined to agree that 3 titles within a 5 year span, along with their dominant post season run, will make the astros a dynasty. IMHO.

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Winning this year would be 3 in 6 though. It's definitely right on the bubble.

the Giants were not a dynasty

more of an anomaly to win 3 titles and miss the playoff inbetween

SF's season win totals in the 3 WS years ---> 92, 94, and 88

those weren't great teams -- they were teams that got hot at the right time behind the right pitcher (MadBum)

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the Big Red machine with only 2 titles is more of a dynasty

thanks to 2 other WS appearances and several 100-win seasons

jopatura said:

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Enzomatic said:

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jopatura said:

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They really needed to win in 2019 or 2021 to be a dynasty. Even winning this year still won't quite be enough.

The problem is with baseball's current set up, the Astros were never the best regular season team outside of maybe 2019.

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Neither were the giants. Weren't two of their WS titles as wild cards? Good enough in regular season, but built for the post season. Literally opposite of the recent dodgers teams.

As has been stated, I'm inclined to agree that 3 titles within a 5 year span, along with their dominant post season run, will make the astros a dynasty. IMHO.

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Winning this year would be 3 in 6 though. It's definitely right on the bubble.

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Winning this year would be 3 in 7.

TXAG 05 said:

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The media will never admit it.

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They called them one in the hype video before the game on Friday

I think 3 out of 5 years at least is a dynasty. Right now they have 1 legit title so some real work left to do.

To the extent they aren't already, I would say one more world title. But, in this span… 7 ALCS appearances and multiple AL pennants and World Series appearances in addition to winning to the whole thing.

People can call it what ever they want .. I'll have to admit this has been a pretty nice run of top notch baseball … when your here going to games and living the moment, it's a dam good ride that's all I can say, and it doesn't happen very very often for many teams and their fans .. I'm enjoying it while it's here…

Yankees won 3 in 3 years.

Giants won 3 in 5 years.

Astros have 2 in 6 years. Need a third this year to get the dynasty label, especially with the national view of the 2017 title.

League titles just support the dynasty's numbers, they don't establish it.

I think a world championship this year seals the deal.

Got to reach Patriots level. One more WS should do it

Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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Nobody outside of Houston has an ounce of respect for the Astros organization because you're a bunch of cheaters who disrespected the game. If you're waiting around to get some sort of praise from the media or baseball enthusiasts, it's not coming…

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It's a shame you're not a baseball fan and can't just enjoy the game. Oh well, hopefully something else today will make you happy.

Dr Lane Trowlan said:

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Nobody outside of Houston has an ounce of respect for the Astros organization because you're a bunch of cheaters who disrespected the game. If you're waiting around to get some sort of praise from the media or baseball enthusiasts, it's not coming…

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Baseless conjecture generated by an epic amount of butthurt.

Many, many people outside of Houston have commented on what an amazing run the Astros are on.

Only extremely asshurt get lost in their bitter feels and lose sight of objective reality.

Objectively. The Astros are in the middle of one of the most dominant runs sports history. Again, that's speaking of objective facts.

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And no one cares about your irrelevant opinion either.

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Ok tough guy. Real easy to type that behind a keyboard.

I like how you leave out 4 pennants clearly showing you don't understand baseball. Like at all.

It's 2 World Series titles. Unless you want to start retro actively taking away titles from teams who were using steroids or uppers or not playing against black people, the Astros 2017 title is just a legitimate as any other title in Baseball history. Particularly when it's been demonstrated that the cheating stopped in the regular season and didn't really help them win.

You can scream into the clouds all you want, but 7 ALCS, 4 Pennants, two 2 titles is dominant. Period. Anyone that understands the game of baseball knows that.