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7:34p, 4/23/23
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2003 Detroit won 43 games
1899 Cleveland Spiders won 20 games



OAK is tracking to 31
KC is tracking to 38
COL is tracking to 44


Edit for update

OAK is at 39 wins (5-5 in the last 10) The look like they are going to make it
KC is at 41 wins (1-9 in the last 10) The should still make it
COL is safe at 49
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7:55p, 4/23/23
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Mets only went 40-120 in their inaugural season in 1962 for a .250 percentage.
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In reply to BCEDAg • 9:01p, 4/23/23
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True so we have two records to track

Modern Era -Mets 40-120
And DH Era 2003 Tigers
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9:43p, 4/23/23
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Worst win percentage ever

1899 Cleveland Spiders 20-134 .130


Worst win percentage Modern era

1916 Philadelphia Athletics 36-117 .235


Current records

A's 4-18 .182
Royals 5-17 .227
Rockies 6-17 .261
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8:14a, 4/24/23
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If it's not too early to start thinking about these things then the Rays, with their 19-3 record (.864) are on track for a 140-22 season.

But it is kind of early.
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In reply to vander54 • 8:17a, 4/24/23
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I think the modern era is after WWII.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 8:23a, 4/24/23
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1900 is what MLB consider modern era.


There is a live ball era and that is more recent
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9:42a, 4/24/23
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Astros and Rangers fans with a combined interest in ruining the As.....

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In reply to vander54 • 9:54a, 4/24/23
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vander54 said:
1900 is what MLB consider modern era.


There is a live ball era and that is more recent
This article explains why 1900 is considered the start of the modern era.

https://thisgreatgame.com/1900-baseball-history/

It also explains why the Cleveland Spiders were so bad. Their owners also owned the St. Louis Perfectos and treated the Spiders like a farm team. Their attendance was so bad they played all their games on the road during the last part of the season.
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10:27a, 4/24/23
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Rough times for the Oakland......soon to be Vegas A's.
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3:12p, 4/24/23
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There is a whole discussion on eras modern vs other

Obviously you have dead ball and Roid Rage

You could now also have shift and pitch clock eras

For me modern era is certainly after blacks were allow to play in the league so 1947
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3:21p, 4/24/23
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It's hard to sustain a really terrible record the whole year.

The 88 Orioles started 0-21 and finished April 1-22. But they went 54-107, so the rest of the way they were 53-85.

The Reds went 3-18 in April in 2022 and finished 62-100. 59-82 after April.

A team winning fewer than 40 games would require them to go about 6-21 every month.

The Tigers went 43-119 in 2003. They were 3-20 in April, but then blew it by going 11-18 in May. They went 5-22 in June, 9-17 July, 6-23 in August, and 9-18 in September. That means they were 35-111 on August 31st, but couldn't stay focused and played .333 baseball in September. A closer look shows they had a great chance to break the record still. They lost 10 straight to get to 38-118, then won 5 of their last 6, including 2 walkoffs vs. the Tigers, to finish short of 120 losses.



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In reply to Keeper of The Spirits • 3:34p, 4/24/23
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Keeper of The Spirits said:
There is a whole discussion on eras modern vs other

Obviously you have dead ball and Roid Rage

You could now also have shift and pitch clock eras

For me modern era is certainly after blacks were allow to play in the league so 1947



Except modern era is literally defined as after 1900
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4:04p, 4/24/23
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The most famous player to have bridged baseball's early and modern eras is Cy Young. He started for the Spiders in 1990 and averaged 30 wins per year until 1898. Then the Robinson brothers, who owned both teams, transferred him from Cleveland to St Louis setting the stage for the Spider's infamous season of 1899.
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In reply to vander54 • 4:08p, 4/24/23
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vander54 said:
Keeper of The Spirits said:
There is a whole discussion on eras modern vs other

Obviously you have dead ball and Roid Rage

You could now also have shift and pitch clock eras

For me modern era is certainly after blacks were allow to play in the league so 1947



Except modern era is literally defined as after 1900


By whom?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:08p, 4/24/23
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Farmer1906 said:
vander54 said:
Keeper of The Spirits said:
There is a whole discussion on eras modern vs other

Obviously you have dead ball and Roid Rage

You could now also have shift and pitch clock eras

For me modern era is certainly after blacks were allow to play in the league so 1947



Except modern era is literally defined as after 1900


By whom?


MLB
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In reply to vander54 • 4:10p, 4/24/23
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vander54 said:
Farmer1906 said:
vander54 said:
Keeper of The Spirits said:
There is a whole discussion on eras modern vs other

Obviously you have dead ball and Roid Rage

You could now also have shift and pitch clock eras

For me modern era is certainly after blacks were allow to play in the league so 1947



Except modern era is literally defined as after 1900


By whom?


MLB


Not saying I don't believe you but where does MLB say that?
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 4:52p, 4/24/23
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The great Bill James considers 1901, when the American League was established, as the start of the modern era. But it's more generally considered to be 1900 when the NL contracted from 12 to 8 teams and ownership of multiple teams by one individual was banned. By then the modern rules as we know them were set. e.g. 4 balls is a walk, 3 strikes is an out, etc. Here's an article he wrote that breaks the history of the game into different sb-eras and integration with Jackie Robinson is a major break point.

https://www.billjamesonline.com/dividing_baseball_history_into_eras/
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In reply to McInnis • 4:55p, 4/24/23
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Bill James is great but that's not MLB
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9:18p, 4/24/23
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The Hall of Fame refers to 1980 - as the contemporary era of baseball and everything before 1980 as the classic era of baseball, just to make it more confusing.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 9:23p, 4/24/23
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Farmer1906 said:
Bill James is great but that's not MLB


I've actually have now seen 4 different time frames referred to as the modern era so I don't know what to think anymore.
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In reply to vander54 • 9:26p, 4/24/23
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vander54 said:
Farmer1906 said:
Bill James is great but that's not MLB


I've actually have now seen 4 different time frames referred to as the modern era so I don't know what to think anymore.


That's why I was questioning it. I don't have the answer. I thought it was something but who knows why I thought it. But that's not the point of the thread. Oakland sucks. But I don't quite think they'll suck enough to overtake any of the all time worst.
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9:47p, 4/24/23
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The 1962 Mets do offer a clue to the age old mystery: how important is a baseball manager?

Casey Stengel managed the Yankees for 12 years, winning the AL 10 times and the WS 7 times. Then he managed the Mets in their first three seasons.
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1:54p, 5/10/23
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A's 8-30 .211


Rockies and Royals are putting their chances to bed
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3:51p, 5/22/23
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The A's are currently 10-38, on pace for 34-128
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4:50p, 5/22/23
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In their last 41 games, the 1899 Cleveland Spiders went 1-40.

That is a record of futility that would make Joey Gallo blush.

Keep hope alive, Zombie As! Until you put twenty on the board, there is always the chance of a lucky 40 game losing streak!!!
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11:00p, 5/23/23
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Lost 40 of their first 50 games. Impressive.
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11:57p, 5/23/23
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Two records I'm watching for.

-Fewer than 40 wins to be worse than the 62 Mets
-More than 120 losses to be worse than the 62 Mets

The A's have a very real chance in breaking both of those marks this season. The Tigers made a run at infamy in 2003, but won 5 of their last 6 games to avoid 120 losses.
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8:07a, 5/26/23
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10-42 and tracking 131 L's.

8/21 lowly KC comes to town for a Monday/Tuesday/Wednesday set. That series may not draw 5K.

This is fun.
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In reply to Keeper of The Spirits • 9:35a, 5/26/23
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Keeper of The Spirits said:
2003 Detroit won 43 games
1899 Cleveland Spiders won 20 games



OAK is tracking to 31
KC is tracking to 38
COL is tracking to 44


Worth noting that Detroit played in the World Series just three years later. Things can change in a hurry! It helps when you get a Miguel Cabrera.
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9:40a, 5/26/23
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12:16p, 6/1/23
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A's currently 12-46 and are on pace for 34-128
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8:25p, 6/23/23
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What a win streak for the A's they are now 19-58 .246 winning percentage on pace for for 40-122, Fan graphs is projecting 56 wins, I will take the under on that. By August the crowds may be under 100
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6:03p, 8/5/23
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The A's still have a chance at infamy.

Currently 30-80. If they maintain their win percentage of .273, they will finish at 44-118. A bad stretch and they could easily reach 121 losses.
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