https://www.tiktok.com/@lordsukhjot/video/7121861364074761514

If this is good taste, then yes - you're right.

Ohtani has a No-hitter going through 7.

Also has a couple of hits & an RBI.

UNBELIEVABLE!!

SHOHEI OHTANI NO-HITTER BROKEN UP WITH 2 OUTS IN THE 8TH!!

MVPPPPP!! DOMINANCE

— Ben Verlander (@BenVerlander) September 30, 2022

Harry Dunne said:

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Farmer1906 said:

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88Warrior said:

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So glad we didn't re-sign him….such a diva…

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How does this make him a Diva. He asked about it and he answers. He doesn't want a 3 year deal, he wants a long term one.

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A dude comparing himself to something at the Dior store is pretty much the definition of diva.

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Vs the D-Backs in the first game Todd Kalas made a comment that there were a few AAA umpires that would be working the during the D-Back series and possibly the games against Tampa. Did anybody else hear that or am I getting to old?

The Ken Rosenthal article this morning on the manager carousel paints a less than ideal picture of the relationship between Click, Dusty and Crane. Sounds like Crane has turned into an overbearing owner. Not ideal

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Does anyone else find it odd that Click and Baker are not certain to return when their three-year partnership has resulted in an ALCS appearance, a World Series appearance and an expectation the team again will play deep into October?

Good. I thought maybe I was missing something.

To understand the situation in Houston, go back to Jan. 13, 2020, and owner Jim Crane's firings of GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch in the wake of the team's penalties for illegal sign stealing. Crane hired Baker, a veteran manager, 16 days later, and Click, a first-time GM, five days after that. Usually, the GM comes first, then they pick the manager. But Crane needed the stability Baker could offer before he could worry about the GM.

In the three years since, the Astros have won the most regular-season games in the American League. And yet, their internal dynamics are fragile. Baker and Click occasionally clash over the GM's desire for a more analytical approach. The bigger problem, though, appears to be between Crane and Click.

Crane is difficult, demanding and heavily involved in baseball operations, acting almost as an owner/GM. He said he had no knowledge of the Astros' illegal sign stealing in 2017 and 2018, and some in the organization believe he took a more active role because he did not want to get blind-sided and embarrassed again. In any case, Crane does not trust Click the way he trusted Luhnow, with whom he worked for eight seasons, enduring a painful rebuild and then enjoying great, albeit tainted, success. Crane also is more inclined to act quickly and boldly than Click, who came from the Rays, a more frugal, deliberate operation.

None of Click's transactions has been particularly flashy Crane handles major signings but most qualified as solid. Click acquired Phil Maton, a quality reliever, and catcher/first baseman Yainer Diaz, the Astros' No. 3 prospect, for center fielder Myles Straw, who has the lowest OPS in the majors with the Guardians. Click also hit on a number of other bullpen moves, a minor trade for Brooks Raley, a bigger one for Kendall Graveman and Rafael Montero, and the free-agent signings of Ryne Stanek and Hctor Neris. His in-season haul this year, however utility Mauricio Dubn, catcher Christian Vzquez, designated hitter Trey Mancini and lefty reliever Will Smith was decidedly modest.

Click, 44, has succeeded in not screwing up a good thing, which is not always as easy as it looks. And keep in mind, he's working with a manager he inherited, a manager with his own ideas, a manager who draws credibility from his 2,089 career regular-season victories, ninth on the all-time list. Baker, 73, wants to keep going, too, even if he wins his first World Series as a manager. "People are all, wouldn't you want to go out on top?" Baker told me last year. "No … I need two in a row."

Baker, who tends to rely on his instincts and experience, probably would be a handful for any of today's data-driven GMs. But he is not a total dinosaur, closed off from all information. His pitching coaches help create game plans and shape pitching decisions. Espada, his bench coach, also serves as a strategic resource. And, lest anyone forget, Baker just keeps winning. For all he has accomplished, for all the leadership he provided the organization coming out of the sign-stealing scandal, he deserves to go out on his own terms. Crane couldn't justify parting with him, even if he wanted to.

So what happens? If Crane fires Click, prospective GMs might think twice about taking the Astros' job, knowing they, too, would be unable to choose their own manager, and that Click, for all his success, somehow could not satisfy the owner. The best solution might be to keep the entire group together, but the Astros seem to be approaching a breaking point. An early departure in the postseason might serve as an impetus for Crane to effect change.

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is there another GM opening waiting for Click? (in the event he leaves voluntarily)

I'm sure the rangers would hire him in a heartbeat.

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Hopefully he doesn't end up in Baltimore.

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They just drafted Holliday's kid to be their future SS and they've got another stud SS in the minors, so unless Los is moving to 3B, i dobut it.

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including 19 to Cleveland in April, in a game we trailed 14-0 after 1-1/2 innings.

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Going to take a wild shot... did Phillip Humber start that game?

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Sorry, I missed this yesterday with a work crisis. I looked it back up this morning, Humber started and gave up 8 ER in 1/3 of an inning. Keuchel relieved him and gave up 7 runs, only 3 earned, in 2-2/3rds, then Travis Blackley gave up 3 in 1 inning, Rhiner Cruz, whoever that is, gave up 1 in 1-2/3, then Paul Clemens strode up the hill and shut the Indians down with 3-1/2 scoreless.


Eerily similar to the game in 1989 when the Reds scored 14 runs in the first inning and beat us 18-2. I remember sitting down to watch the game during the day on summer vacation. The greatest Astro free agent signing of all time, Jim Clancy, got the start and went 0 innings, giving up 7 earned runs. Then Bob Forsch came in and gave up 7 more. I'm going to assume that Manager Art Howe hated Bob Forsch's guts as a player, because Bob Forsch pitched 7 innings that day, giving up EIGHTEEN HITS and 10 earned runs. That night I was watching the NBC Nightly News with my mom, and here's Tom Brokaw bagging on the Astros unable to get out of the first inning.

Here's all 14 ****ing runs. Old Man Ken Griffey beating our ass.

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If Crane screws this up, I am going to be pissed. Click has clearly been a plus GM. His moves would work so much better if players were used as intended and not just whatever Dusty decided. With Crane heavily involved in signings, how are you going to hold any signing for or against Click at this point? This feels like an unnecessary issue to have this off-season.

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I see nothing in that article that makes me think Crane is wrong. If you believe he didn't know anything, then it's clear that he was outright lied to by Luhnow. He probably thinks MLB let the franchise off lightly, or has heard enough **** from his fellow owners, that's he's not going to be hands off. I don't have an issue with him being involved because he's actually pretty savvy.

That said, Baker needs to be shown the door this off-season for Espada.

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Lunhow also didn't know about.

Yes Crane runs the team - not sure how that is some kind of revelation. Crane played college baseball, he actually does understand the game. He is extremely demanding as an owner of his employees. I could see Click and Dusty both not being renewed. I would not lose a minute of sleep over Dusty being let go. Click I think is ok, and deserves to stay around, but only Jim knows what Jim thinks about Click.

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Good god, it's been 15 years since Bidge hung it up. My parents' first, and to date, only trip to MInute Maid Park.

September 30, 2007: Amidst standing ovations, hugs and tributes, Craig Biggio closes out his 20-year career in a 3-0 shutout of Atlanta. His first inning double is the 3,060th hit of his career, making him 20th on the all-time list. It's also the 668th two-bagger, finishing fifth all time. It keys a three-run first which is all Felipe Paulino and three relievers need to finish the season at 73-89. A Minute Maid Park record crowd of 43,823 attend.

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I was at that game, had terrible seats. Those were removed for the Michelob bar in right.

We've talked a lot of which pitchers to keep on the ALDS roster, but how would you do the position players.

Starters
Gurriel (unfortunately)
Altuve
Pena
Bregman
McCormick
Tucker
Diaz
Alvarez
Maldonado

Bench
Mancini #1 PH option
Vazquez
Dubon (PH, play defense if someone gets hurt)
Meyers (PR, defensive closer)

I want to put Y Diaz but I don't think they let him actually catch in the playoffs.

I'd put Hensley over Dubon but that'll never happen.

and yet he didn't have the sack to keep the real talent, Luhnow

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Click acquired Phil Maton, a quality reliever, and catcher/first baseman Yainer Diaz, the Astros' No. 3 prospect, for center fielder Myles Straw, who has the lowest OPS in the majors with the Guardians.
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Straw OPS - .562

Dubon OPS - .560

Meyers OPS - .557

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/s/strawmy01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/d/dubonma01.shtml

https://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/meyerja02.shtml

It's not that we don't have worse hitting center fielders, it's that they didn't play enough to qualify for lowest OPS.

Carlos using the Dior analogy is just too spot on good.