***** Official 2022 Houston Astros Season Thread *****

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Key to shutting down their offense to me is limiting free bases. Solo shots won't kill you but if you walk people and Harper comes up… you get in trouble.

Also just like we did against the Yankees, take advantage of extra outs and free passes we get on offense
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BeowulfShaeffer said:

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Man am I glad he turned his crap around. Pop-up Bregman and GIDP Bregman the first half of the year was no fun. Dude is locked in!
Yep, early season Bregman was channeling his inner Brad Ausmus.
Brad Assmus, as my father used to always call him
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GigEmMortis said:

BeowulfShaeffer said:

ttha_aggie_09 said:

Man am I glad he turned his crap around. Pop-up Bregman and GIDP Bregman the first half of the year was no fun. Dude is locked in!
Yep, early season Bregman was channeling his inner Brad Ausmus.
Brad Assmus, as my father used to always call him


Since I was 11 and 12 during that 2004-2005 run, I thought every player on those teams were like all stars.

Boy how wrong I was about Ausmus
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A resounding no for the guy that traded away Josh Hader
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EastCoastAgNc said:


CliffNotes? I don't have a subscription to that rag and don't plan to start.
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EastCoastAgNc said:


A resounding no for the guy that traded away Josh Hader


Well Luhnow traded him to the Brewers for Mike Fiers and Carlos Gomez.

Possibly the worst trade in Astros history.
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The five-player package headed to Washington included infielders Abraham Toro and Randy Csar along with pitchers Josh James, J.B. Bukauskas and Kent Emanuel, Luhnow said.



We could've had Harper for a half season rental for basically Toro and Mr. Sleep Apnea himself. I dont recall any of the other guys playing at major league level for the Astros.
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Buck Compton said:

EastCoastAgNc said:


CliffNotes? I don't have a subscription to that rag and don't plan to start.
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Four years ago, the Astros agreed in principle to acquire Harper from the Nationals a day before the July 31 deadline, former general manager Jeff Luhnow said this week. The five-player package headed to Washington included infielders Abraham Toro and Randy Csar along with pitchers Josh James, J.B. Bukauskas and Kent Emanuel, Luhnow said.
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A need for offense became apparent, but as Luhnow remembered it, he and Rizzo opened dialogue on July 30 discussing bullpens. The two executives first discussed another player Luhnow believes it was reliever Kelvin Herrera before Luhnow mentioned Harper "sort of in jest."

According to Luhnow, Rizzo responded that "for the right package," Washington would move its franchise centerpiece. Luhnow pounced, sensing the sort of blockbuster he authored a year before to acquire Justin Verlander. Long thought of by some as a prospect hoarder, Luhnow was willing to give away five pieces of his farm system for two months of Harper's services.

Among them, only Bukauskas ranked in Baseball America's Top 30 Astros prospects. James was, however, amid a breakout minor league season that eventually found him tossing triple-digit fastballs in high-leverage innings out of Houston's major league bullpen. Toro and Csar hadn't played past Class AA. Emanuel had a 5.66 ERA in the upper minor leagues in 2017.

Agreeing to names does not finalize a trade. Deals of this magnitude require ownership approval. Both general managers understood that and, according to Luhnow, communicated it to one another after the packages were agreed upon. Houston owner Jim Crane "gave me the green light right away," Luhnow said.
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Csar has never appeared in the majors. Bukauskas, whom Luhnow sent to Arizona in the Zack Greinke blockbuster, has thrown 17 major league innings. Toro, Emanuel and James have combined to accrue 1.4 wins above replacement, according to Baseball-Reference.
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Farmer1906 said:


Man at the 3:18 mark I don't think I've ever seen Verlander look happier (and that's including the 2017 WS win aftermath and his no hitter with us).

I really hope he can get that WS monkey off his back.
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does anyone have an ESPN+ sub that can share this list of the 52 players in the WS ranked?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/insider/story/_/id/34882775/world-series-2022-ranking-all-52-phillies-astros-players

TIA
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1. Harper
2. Alvarez
3. Bregman
4. Realmuto
5. Verlander
6. Nola
7. Wheeler
8. Altuve
9. Valdez
10. Pena
11. Tucker
12. Schwarber
13. McCullers
14. Pressly
15. Javier
16. McCormick
17. Hoskins
18. Saurez
19. Stott
20. Dominguez
21. Segura
22. Marsh
23. Garcia
24. Eflin
25. Abreu
26. Alvarado
27. Bohm
28. Gurriel
29. Montero
30. Brown
31. Mancini
32. Neris
33. Castellanos
34. Syndergaard
35. Sosa
36. Maldonado
37. Robertson
38. Vazquez
39. Stanek
40. Vierling
41. Diaz
42. Brogdon
43. Bellatti
44. Gibson
45. Urquidy
46. Stubbs
47. Dubon
48. Hand
49. Hensley
50. Martinez
51. Falter
52. Guthrie
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Farmer1906 said:

1. Harper
2. Alvarez
3. Bregman
4. Realmuto
5. Verlander
6. Nola
7. Wheeler
8. Altuve
9. Valdez
10. Pena
11. Tucker
12. Schwarber
13. McCullers
14. Pressly
15. Javier
16. McCormick
17. Hoskins
18. Saurez
19. Stott
20. Dominguez
21. Segura
22. Marsh
23. Garcia
24. Eflin
25. Abreu
26. Alvarado
27. Bohm
28. Gurriel
29. Montero
30. Brown
31. Mancini
32. Neris
33. Castellanos
34. Syndergaard
35. Sosa
36. Maldonado
37. Robertson
38. Vazquez
39. Stanek
40. Vierling
41. Diaz
42. Brogdon
43. Bellatti
44. Gibson
45. Urquidy
46. Stubbs
47. Dubon
48. Hand
49. Hensley
50. Martinez
51. Falter
52. Guthrie


Valdez at 9? Seems low to me.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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Maldy on the silver slugger finalist list?
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Marvin said:

Farmer1906 said:

1. Harper
2. Alvarez
3. Bregman
4. Realmuto
5. Verlander
6. Nola
7. Wheeler
8. Altuve
9. Valdez
10. Pena
11. Tucker
12. Schwarber
13. McCullers
14. Pressly
15. Javier
16. McCormick
17. Hoskins
18. Saurez
19. Stott
20. Dominguez
21. Segura
22. Marsh
23. Garcia
24. Eflin
25. Abreu
26. Alvarado
27. Bohm
28. Gurriel
29. Montero
30. Brown
31. Mancini
32. Neris
33. Castellanos
34. Syndergaard
35. Sosa
36. Maldonado
37. Robertson
38. Vazquez
39. Stanek
40. Vierling
41. Diaz
42. Brogdon
43. Bellatti
44. Gibson
45. Urquidy
46. Stubbs
47. Dubon
48. Hand
49. Hensley
50. Martinez
51. Falter
52. Guthrie


Valdez at 9? Seems low to me.
As does Stanek at 39. Did they even look at his stats for this season?
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39 is WAY too high for Stanek - Dusty Baker probably
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Farmer1906 said:

1. Harper
2. Alvarez
3. Bregman
4. Realmuto
5. Verlander
6. Nola
7. Wheeler
8. Altuve
9. Valdez
10. Pena
11. Tucker
12. Schwarber
13. McCullers
14. Pressly
15. Javier
16. McCormick
17. Hoskins
18. Saurez
19. Stott
20. Dominguez
21. Segura
22. Marsh
23. Garcia
24. Eflin
25. Abreu
26. Alvarado
27. Bohm
28. Gurriel
29. Montero
30. Brown
31. Mancini
32. Neris
33. Castellanos
34. Syndergaard
35. Sosa
36. Maldonado
37. Robertson
38. Vazquez
39. Stanek
40. Vierling
41. Diaz
42. Brogdon
43. Bellatti
44. Gibson
45. Urquidy
46. Stubbs
47. Dubon
48. Hand
49. Hensley
50. Martinez
51. Falter
52. Guthrie

Thanks.

I feel like Valdez is being seriously underestimated. McCormick at 16 seems high, but I love the optimism.
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In what world is Realmuto ahead of Altuve and Verlander?
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a little surprised people dont like luhnow because he whiffed on a trade. It happens. Literally everything good in an astros fan life right now is because of luhnow.
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Ranked bt fWAR




HOU - 57.6
PHI - 45.2
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Something to ***** about on an off day.

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Nobody said that

And not everything...

JL didn't resign Verlander
JL didn't extend Yordan
JL didn't trade for Stanek, Montero, Vasquez
JL didn't sign Neris
JL didn't let CC walk and Pena fill in

Luhnow did a lot but James Click and his regime have done a lot more than people give them credit for.
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True but JL traded for JV and extended him the first time. Without that, what are the odds he's in Houston this year?

JL drafted Pena.


I think Click has done a good to very good job. But all this doesn't happen without JL. He's the architect of it all.
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yeah, all he did was take a perennial doormat and turn them into the team of the decade, and lay the foundation for continued success.

To praise Luhnow is not to take away from Click. Click kept the train on the track, but Luhnow built the f'ing train.
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Probably splitting hairs but I look at it like Luhnow built the foundation and continued to build it.

I have a hard time saying everything good right now is because of Jeff Luhnow.

To me that's selling the job Click has done WAY short.
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Farmer1906 said:


The guy traded Hader while they were battling for a playoff spot. He is clearly not of his right mind. I don't want that kind of garbage going on around here. What impactful moves has he made as their GM? I'd rather keep Click. I don't get why we would let him go after the string of playoff success. If we do let him go, I'd rather get Sig from the Orioles.
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Click has done a nice job and deserves a good amount of credit for the success today.

A huge part of the success today is because of the foundation Lunhow built.

Both are good GMs. If I had to choose one today that I trust to keep us at the most competitive level for the next 10 years, it would be Lunhow.
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Ag_07 said:

Probably splitting hairs but I look at it like Luhnow built the foundation and continued to build it.

I have a hard time saying everything good right now is because of Jeff Luhnow.

To me that's selling the job Click has done WAY short.
Dont mean to do that, I think Click has done a good job generally. I mean obviously, we're in the world series again.

But the vision luhnow had when we were losing 100 games a year is where we are now.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

Farmer1906 said:


The guy traded Hader while they were battling for a playoff spot. He is clearly not of his right mind. I don't want that kind of garbage going on around here. What impactful moves has he made as their GM? I'd rather keep Click. I don't get why we would let him go after the string of playoff success. If we do let him go, I'd rather get Sig from the Orioles.
Also...

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Farmer1906 said:

I've heard enough from Philly fans and their home-field advantage. I want to win in 5 with 3 wins coming at their house.
Eff that noise. Win it in 4
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