***Official Houston Astros 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

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****em all. Only ones hurt is us
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


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If they're gonna dig their heels in on this, they're gonna be held up for a while. I can't see the owners signing off on that.
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So the last two times the Astros lost in the World Series, the next season was shortened.

I guess we know what the cure is going forward
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Farmer1906 said:


looking at the opening week schedule...the big winner is Detroit.

the Tigers' (only) visits to Seattle and Oakland are cancelled. Nice to get a long roadtrip eliminated.

Yankees are probably happy too. Their visits to Arlington and Houston are gone. Won't be traveling to the lone star state this year
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two downers for the Astros...

an Angels vs. A's series is cancelled

and an Angels vs. Mariners series is cancelled.

those guaranteed losses (by division opponents) are gone
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The players are nucking futs if they think these are gonna get rescheduled!
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So the competitive imbalance is already front and center.

Thanks a lot you cock gobbling worthless POSs.
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If we lose a month of baseball, I would think MLB would have to scrap the schedule as it now stands and come up with another one so non-divisional series stay in tact and either scrap the inter league games or the inner divisional series' are cut back.

Also, why in the **** are they talking about bigger bases? Limiting what defenses can do is almost as ridiculous.
AKA 13-0
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Y'all come on down and make the trip to Sugar Land. At least we'll have baseball, I guess.
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I feel like at the very least the owners should allow the players to train and use the facilities. They are going to screw themselves over when guys like LMJ get injured again (which will effect owners in wasting money) because they don't have access to the trainers.
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that will be something to keep an eye on...is the schedule adjusted.

one team that significantly benefits from a cancelled month of April:

Toronto

the Blue Jays would potentially lose 20 games vs. the Astros, Rays, Red Sox, and Yankees.

that is really nice
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Greinke being Greinke.

Astros Twitter butt hurt is already underway.

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I mean he's not wrong, but if you didn't grow up in the H that's pretty much the sentiment.
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Absolutely.

I grew up here, and I take no offense. Sometimes this city does suck. I think it's funny when everyone gets pissed about a comment. He isn't knocking fans or the team. Living here just wasn't his thing, and that's ok.
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He admitted he was joking. It was obvious sarcasm. Gattis has always had fun banter with fans on Twitter.
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agproducer said:

Greinke bring Greinke.

Astros Twitter butt hurt is already underway.


he's right you know...
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it's a bad break for season ticket holders.

losing the series vs. the Yankees...and then if the lockout continues...possibly losing the series vs. the Blue Jays.

two of the most anticipated series on the home schedule
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W said:

it's a bad break for season ticket holders.

losing the series vs. the Yankees...and then if the lockout continues...possibly losing the series vs. the Blue Jays.

two of the most anticipated series on the home schedule
Depending on how many games they cancel we might have to use the savings on a sweet road trip
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https://www.propublica.org/article/the-billionaire-playbook-how-sports-owners-use-their-teams-to-avoid-millions-in-taxes
Interesting dive into how owners (legally) avoid taxes
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Pahdz said:

I mean he's not wrong, but if you didn't grow up in the H that's pretty much the sentiment.
Most people I've ever met who thought Houston "sucked" knew pretty much nothing about it except the freeways. If they were from Houston, they were from the suburbs and didn't really know anything about the rest of the city (except the freeways).
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AggieLit said:

Pahdz said:

I mean he's not wrong, but if you didn't grow up in the H that's pretty much the sentiment.
Most people I've ever met who thought Houston "sucked" knew pretty much nothing about it except the freeways. If they were from Houston, they were from the suburbs and didn't really know anything about the rest of the city (except the freeways).

The tine doesn't need any more reason to attract more people here. We are full as it is.
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Since we don't have much else to discuss, care to tell us what IS great about the city of Houston?

I've lived here my whole life, in the burbs, and go out of my way to identify myself as NW of Houston, N of Houston etc...
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Since we don't have much else to discuss, care to tell us what IS great about the city of Houston?

I've lived here my whole life, in the burbs, and go out of my way to identify myself as NW of Houston, N of Houston etc...
Every major city is not all that different. There are art galleries, museums, zoos, fine dining, parks, breweries, festivals, etc. Some places are a little prettier, some uglier. Some maybe had more or fewer sports teams. But what Houston has going for it is that it's a true melting pot of cultures, while still having the charm of southern hospitality. LA & NY will have a mix of cultures, but they're all *******s. New Orleans, Atlanta, Orlando, Jacksonville, Nashville, etc may have some southern charm, but don't have the mix. Plus from the melting pot comes some ridiculously good and interesting food.

From a completely different perspective (unrelated to Greinke's) Houston's cost of living (bang for your buck) is still pretty damn good compared to a lot of metroplexes. That plus the abundant opportunities for employment make it elite.

Until somewhat recently, the city/county was not nearly as poorly run as other metroplexes. Hopefully, this can be fixed. I don't want Houston to be the next Chicago.
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

Since we don't have much else to discuss, care to tell us what IS great about the city of Houston?

I've lived here my whole life, in the burbs, and go out of my way to identify myself as NW of Houston, N of Houston etc...
Sure. I grew up in NW Houston myself (Spring-Klein area). Didn't really appreciate Houston until I had lived in Chicago, Dallas, other places. What I like about it is that it's pretty international, like Chicago or L.A., you can find good restaurants for any type of food in the world. I like the skyline and architecture. It has the best museums in the southern U.S., something I appreciate living in Austin now where museums are a joke.

People are friendly, moreso than any other big city I've ever been to. I like that we're blue collar, one of the last real manufacturing towns in America, we can make anything. Got three machinists in my family and there's probably more of them in Houston than any other U.S. city. Also, on a quirkier note, I like thunderstorms. I like sitting on my porch with a beer and just watching it come down. I don't like humidity or mosquitoes but I do like that Gulf air, where you sense that the ocean isn't too far away.
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I don't know which of you to replay to but just know this is for both of you. Bravo.

I ask that in term of a person who doesn't like any City but I think a "cool" factory would come from the fact that there is Unique stuff or a specifically unique feel to that specific City. So where you both mentioned the melting pot I think that feature specifically takes away from the city, it has no defined life or attraction.

Also I feel like most of what yall described is a great reason to live around/near the city but not the city itself.

As far as attractions I believe we have a lot of really nice attractions for residents and that is the main folks using them. I don't feel anyone travels for a vacation to see museums, could be wrong, but living here its great to be able to take my kids. The zoo is really good as well, but it isn't "the largest in the country" that draws people to San Diego and in the end it is a Zoo. I will give you Nasa is great tourist site and for locals to go to.

Compare that to say New York, people travel there to see the sights, to see the buildings, to see stuff....most of which folks that actually live there never bother to pay attention to more so than posting a picture online.

Lastly, the food. I personally couldn't care less. I know many will disagree but I just don't care, I'm not an adventurous eater. I will say when I travel for work however...I don't order Mexican food or BBQ outside of the state of Texas
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Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I don't know which of you to replay to but just know this is for both of you. Bravo.

I ask that in term of a person who doesn't like any City but I think a "cool" factory would come from the fact that there is Unique stuff or a specifically unique feel to that specific City. So where you both mentioned the melting pot I think that feature specifically takes away from the city, it has no defined life or attraction.

Also I feel like most of what yall described is a great reason to live around/near the city but not the city itself.

As far as attractions I believe we have a lot of really nice attractions for residents and that is the main folks using them. I don't feel anyone travels for a vacation to see museums, could be wrong, but living here its great to be able to take my kids. The zoo is really good as well, but it isn't "the largest in the country" that draws people to San Diego and in the end it is a Zoo. I will give you Nasa is great tourist site and for locals to go to.

Compare that to say New York, people travel there to see the sights, to see the buildings, to see stuff....most of which folks that actually live there never bother to pay attention to more so than posting a picture online.

Lastly, the food. I personally couldn't care less. I know many will disagree but I just don't care, I'm not an adventurous eater. I will say when I travel for work however...I don't order Mexican food or BBQ outside of the state of Texas
I see where you're coming from. I think a lot of this boils down to, there isn't hype about Houston. Houston may have great museums, but there isn't hype about them like there is in New York. The city has historically done a bad job of selling itself to the outside. Dallas sells itself really well (I used to live there), while not having a lot of the advantages that Houston does. So I think it's still a diamond in the rough, and I've met some people from outside Texas who've discovered it and really like it (Texans are mostly a lost cause due to hardened opinions), but you have to be able to enjoy something that the world isn't telling you to like.
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EastCoastAgNc said:

https://www.propublica.org/article/the-billionaire-playbook-how-sports-owners-use-their-teams-to-avoid-millions-in-taxes
Interesting dive into how owners (legally) avoid taxes
So the Clippers owner spent $2 billion to get out of paying tens of millions of taxes each year for a few years? What a monster!
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Agree 100%. How the city markets itself or how others view it as a trade destination is really irrelevant to living here. Sure, it could help the economy. But just because we don't have a can't miss attraction doesn't mean it isn't a great place to live.

Yall may have mentioned it and I missed it, but on top of all yall pointed out, id say the parks here are actually a really big plus. I'be traveled a lot and always run or cycle where I go. Houston's park system is way better than most. Between memorial park, Buffalo bayou, white oak bayou (not as pretty but effective for a bike ride), it's hard to find a city that can beat that. I ran LA's bayou trail system and immediately turned around and back for the hotel because I came to a 3rd world city (I mean permanent tin type structures, not just tents).

And I know it was mentioned and someone said they couldn't care less, but I think houston food is severely underrated.

To me, the only real negative to houston are the brutally hot and humid summers. But, outside souther California, no cities really have perfect weather year round. Well that and our recent crime trends…..
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AggieLit said:

Lonestar_Ag09 said:

I don't know which of you to replay to but just know this is for both of you. Bravo.

I ask that in term of a person who doesn't like any City but I think a "cool" factory would come from the fact that there is Unique stuff or a specifically unique feel to that specific City. So where you both mentioned the melting pot I think that feature specifically takes away from the city, it has no defined life or attraction.

Also I feel like most of what yall described is a great reason to live around/near the city but not the city itself.

As far as attractions I believe we have a lot of really nice attractions for residents and that is the main folks using them. I don't feel anyone travels for a vacation to see museums, could be wrong, but living here its great to be able to take my kids. The zoo is really good as well, but it isn't "the largest in the country" that draws people to San Diego and in the end it is a Zoo. I will give you Nasa is great tourist site and for locals to go to.

Compare that to say New York, people travel there to see the sights, to see the buildings, to see stuff....most of which folks that actually live there never bother to pay attention to more so than posting a picture online.

Lastly, the food. I personally couldn't care less. I know many will disagree but I just don't care, I'm not an adventurous eater. I will say when I travel for work however...I don't order Mexican food or BBQ outside of the state of Texas
I see where you're coming from. I think a lot of this boils down to, there isn't hype about Houston. Houston may have great museums, but there isn't hype about them like there is in New York. The city has historically done a bad job of selling itself to the outside. Dallas sells itself really well (I used to live there), while not having a lot of the advantages that Houston does. So I think it's still a diamond in the rough, and I've met some people from outside Texas who've discovered it and really like it (Texans are mostly a lost cause due to hardened opinions), but you have to be able to enjoy something that the world isn't telling you to like.

I grew up in the Cypress and and our family now lives in the Tomball area so its is obvious where I call home.

But my wife and I did live in Dallas for a year immediately after we got married ( I mean immediately, we moved the day after we arrived home from our honeymoon) and while we decided not to live there because of distance from family and price comparison. We thoroughly enjoyed our year. Now I get that part of that was just the excitement of first year of marriage but we lived in the village on lower Greenville. We were able to walk lots of places, we loved the bar/restaurant scene of Greenville/ deep ellum and everything in between.

Coming from Houston where you have 3 areas of downtown, Dallas just felt small to me, and then add the fact that they claim cowboys and rangers...but you have to drive forever to get to a game. I do regret not going to a Starz game while we lived there and not stopping in Dealy Plaza
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Baseball needs to hurry up. This thread is depressing.
I love Texas Aggie sports, but I love Texas A&M more.
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