***Official Houston Astros 2021-22 Offseason Thread***

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10:45a, 11/3/21
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[Placeholder for Pete Solomon hype]

[Placeholder for TLDR Astros offseason hot takes]
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10:46a, 11/3/21
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Astros free agents:

-Carlos Correa
-Justin Verlander
-Zack Greinke
-Kendall Graveman
-Yimi Garcia
-Brooks Raley
-Marwin Gonzalez
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 10:47a, 11/3/21
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texasaggie2015 said:
Astros free agents:

-Carlos Correa
-Justin Verlander
-Zack Greinke
-Kendall Graveman
-Yimi Garcia
-Brooks Raley
-Marwin Gonzalez
From that list I really just care to get Graveman and Yimi back.
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10:48a, 11/3/21
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10:50a, 11/3/21
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I hate this ****ing thread.
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10:51a, 11/3/21
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10:51a, 11/3/21
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What about Maldonado?

https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/free-agents/ufa/houston-astros/
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In reply to MAROON • 10:52a, 11/3/21
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MAROON said:
What about Maldonado?
He and Castro are signed through next season
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In reply to MAROON • 10:52a, 11/3/21
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He's still under contract I'm almost positive
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10:53a, 11/3/21
The first stages of Grief thread begins.

Hugs all around

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10:53a, 11/3/21
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It sucks that we are here already.

But... I'm in.
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10:53a, 11/3/21
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In, looking forward to all our GMs weighing in, speculating, postulating, and telling us what their friend's sister's husband's guy-that-knows-an-Astros'-dogwalker heard.

Questions to ponder:
  • Will the Stros make a legit run at re-signing Correa?
  • Will the Stros sign a big ace to pair with LMJ?
  • Does JV get a qualifying offer?
  • Who in the Stros farm system gets a shot at the big leagues?
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10:54a, 11/3/21
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Would rather this thread have started after our World Series parade …. But I'm in
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In reply to Teddy Perkins • 10:55a, 11/3/21
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Teddy Perkins said:
In, looking forward to all our GMs weighing in, speculating, postulating, and telling us what their friend's sister's husband's guy-that-knows-an-Astros'-dogwalker heard.

Questions to ponder:
  • Will the Stros make a legit run at re-signing Correa? Will make a run but it won't be enough
  • Will the Stros sign a big ace to pair with LMJ? Yes
  • Does JV get a qualifying offer? 100% without a doubt
  • Who in the Stros farm system gets a shot at the big leagues? Pena and Leon for sure.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 10:56a, 11/3/21
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texasaggie2015 said:
He's still under contract I'm almost positive
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/martin-maldonado-8699/

this says otherwise. Not sure
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10:57a, 11/3/21
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I am curious how the work stoppage is going to impact Free Agency.

Specifically for the Astros, if service time until free agency is reduced and Yordan and Tucker would be come free agents sooner. How would you prioritize them vs Carlos?
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 10:57a, 11/3/21
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texasaggie2015 said:
Astros free agents:

-Carlos Correa N
-Justin Verlander N
-Zack Greinke N
-Kendall Graveman Y
-Yimi Garcia Y
-Brooks Raley Y
-Marwin Gonzalez N
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In reply to MAROON • 10:57a, 11/3/21
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Houston Astros, Martin Maldonado reach extension for 2022 season (espn.com)
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10:58a, 11/3/21
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I think CC is gone. I don't think the Astros will give him the years he wants.

With that in mind, I think they give Pena and Leon a shot.

I like Chas, but I'd like to see them move him for pitching help, most likely minor leaguers. That way CF is limited to a competition between Meyers, Siri and Leon.

SP should be priority. Thor should be an option. JV should get a QO.
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In reply to MAROON • 10:58a, 11/3/21
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MAROON said:
texasaggie2015 said:
He's still under contract I'm almost positive
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/martin-maldonado-8699/

this says otherwise. Not sure
https://mlb.nbcsports.com/2021/04/21/martin-maldonado-astros-agree-to-contract-for-2022/

Martin is signed for 2022
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10:58a, 11/3/21
Start working Yordan at 1st. Let Bregs heal. Sign ace.

Give CC what you can afford for 6 years. He doesn't take it let him walk and offer next best SS free agent.

Fun fact:

How many former Astros have left for bugger contracts and actually been worth what they were offered?
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In reply to MAROON • 10:58a, 11/3/21
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MAROON said:
texasaggie2015 said:
He's still under contract I'm almost positive
https://www.spotrac.com/mlb/houston-astros/martin-maldonado-8699/

this says otherwise. Not sure
https://www.mlb.com/news/martin-maldonado-extension-with-astros
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10:59a, 11/3/21
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Carlos Correa is gone. He ain't coming back.
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In reply to KTAG05 • 11:00a, 11/3/21
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this is a better list

https://www.baseball-reference.com/teams/HOU/houston-astros-salaries-and-contracts.shtml



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11:01a, 11/3/21
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If Correa doesn't resign he is heading the following imo:

AL
Texas
Detroit
Toronto
Boston

NL
Phillies
Dodgers
Atlanta
Cubs

I think those are the 8 most logical landing spots Imo but I think Philly is going to be the choice personally
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:01a, 11/3/21
texasaggie2015 said:
Carlos Correa is gone. He ain't coming back.


Stros can pay him what he believes he's worth.

Question is will signing him set you up for 6 years of not making playoffs in 2 years when we'd lose everyone else?

Not worth it imho
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 11:02a, 11/3/21
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texasaggie2015 said:
Carlos Correa is gone. He ain't coming back.
Sadly, yep. He even made some comments that indicated as much last night.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 11:04a, 11/3/21
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Farmer1906 said:
I hate this ****ing thread.
Im looking for Ray Finkle.... and a clean pair of shorts. Im just a very big Finkle fan. This is my Graceland, sir.


MAGA

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In reply to bullard21k • 11:06a, 11/3/21
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I'm thinking he goes to Detroit. JV goes too.
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In reply to bearkatag15 • 11:06a, 11/3/21
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bearkatag15 said:
Teddy Perkins said:
In, looking forward to all our GMs weighing in, speculating, postulating, and telling us what their friend's sister's husband's guy-that-knows-an-Astros'-dogwalker heard.

Questions to ponder:
  • Will the Stros make a legit run at re-signing Correa? Will make a run but it won't be enough
  • Will the Stros sign a big ace to pair with LMJ? Yes
  • Does JV get a qualifying offer? 100% without a doubt
  • Who in the Stros farm system gets a shot at the big leagues? Pena and Leon for sure.
Looks good to me.

I'd be careful on declaring the signing of an ace. I think we'll have a high-quality guy added to the rotation.

I'll add Solomon to the farm system call ups.
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11:07a, 11/3/21
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It's not even worth having a glimmer of hope that he returns, unfortunately. He's been gone.
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11:08a, 11/3/21
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In. Curious how much money we free up from that list.
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11:10a, 11/3/21
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Emanuel should be back from UCL surgery too.


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11:13a, 11/3/21
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If luxury tax drops down to 180 M as rumored then we should have about 35 M to play with. I think we can mix and match around 12 M to sign some bullpen arms (Graveman, Raley, Garcia, new FA) then use a larger portion (15-20M) to go after a starting pitcher. I would start by offering Thor, Ray, and maybe even Stroman the Lance contact of 5 years/85 M. It won't land Thor, but it might be enough for Ray or Stroman.
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11:15a, 11/3/21
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I'm going to miss Brent Strom
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