***Official Houston Astros 2021 Season Thread***

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In reply to AggieLit • 1:25p, 10/20/21
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they certainly have a much stronger brand

Crane fixing the logo after getting a hold of the franchise helped a lot
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In reply to AggieLit • 1:26p, 10/20/21
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AggieLit said:
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One of the things that entertain me is that everyone says Houston is a small market.
i don't think Boston is even in the top 10 in metro areas anymore
We actually just surpassed them in tv market size, which is what matters most where pro sports are concerned. We should be passing D.C. and San Fran in the next few years and probably be at #6 for a long time.

https://mediatracks.com/resources/nielsen-dma-rankings-2020/

Another factor though is merchandise revenue, and I think the Red Sox still sell quite a bit more nationwide than the Astros. Think they also draw more ticket revenue.

Right, it's local TV market + fanbase outside that market. Shows up in merchandise sales for the latter. Fenway is a destination. MMP is great but people generally don't travel just to see it.
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1:26p, 10/20/21
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Blind comparison.

Who ya got?

Player A
1 Hit
1 Run
1 RBI
0 HR
0 BB

Player B
2 Hit
2 Run
2 RBI
1 HR
2 BB

A - Maldonado in 23 PAs
B - Castro in 6 PAs
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In reply to htxag09 • 1:27p, 10/20/21
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htxag09 said:
For everyone pointing out stats for the Red Sox . Boston was 3rd to last in all of mlb with a chase percentage of 30.2%. Mlb average was 27.7%. I'm on the phone and can't find postseason advanced metrics. But seems like it's closer to 10% than 30%. And sure, we've wasted a lot of pitches, but let's not act like that's not normal in the regular season. Let's also not act like they haven't laid of breaking balls that are an inch or two down.

Heck that 30% chase percentage may very well be why we're wasting pitches. Cause they chased those throughout the year.
This was my thought as well. It's not that they're crushing fastballs, it's that they're laying off some really good pitches. Yes, we have wasted some pitches in instances where we shouldn't have. But last night I can think of one in particular that was a filthy slider about 2" outside and at bottom of the zone to JD Martinez. Bottom of the 1st, count was 1-2. He barely took the bat off his shoulder. The next two pitches were clearly balls and he ended up walking.

Whether our guys were tipping or they're stealing signs, either way, some of their takes have been completely out of line with their season averages. The fact that the bullpen proceeded to make them look very normal the rest of the game just screams that something is/was up.
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In reply to YellAg2004 • 1:28p, 10/20/21
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YellAg2004 said:
htxag09 said:
For everyone pointing out stats for the Red Sox . Boston was 3rd to last in all of mlb with a chase percentage of 30.2%. Mlb average was 27.7%. I'm on the phone and can't find postseason advanced metrics. But seems like it's closer to 10% than 30%. And sure, we've wasted a lot of pitches, but let's not act like that's not normal in the regular season. Let's also not act like they haven't laid of breaking balls that are an inch or two down.

Heck that 30% chase percentage may very well be why we're wasting pitches. Cause they chased those throughout the year.
This was my thought as well. It's not that they're crushing fastballs, it's that they're laying off some really good pitches. Yes, we have wasted some pitches in instances where we shouldn't have. But last night I can think of one in particular that was a filthy slider about 2" outside and at bottom of the zone to JD Martinez. Bottom of the 1st, count was 1-2. He barely took the bat off his shoulder. The next two pitches were clearly balls and he ended up walking.

Whether our guys were tipping or they're stealing signs, either way, some of their takes have been completely out of line with their season averages. The fact that the bullpen proceeded to make them look very normal the rest of the game just screams that something is/was up.

Think about the general consensus of the Astros bullpen here. If you can figure out the tells for Astro starters to knock them out, why waste time on doing the same for the bullpen?
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In reply to n_touch • 1:37p, 10/20/21
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n_touch said:
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The coastal centric nature of sports media seems foolish given that demographic growth continues to be elsewhere. I guess the idea is that people keep and pass down their sports team loyalties no matter where they live. Still, if you had a sports outlet that just reported on sports in a straight manner I bet it would do well.
Its no different than the large coastal cities believing that everyone thinks like them. In Cali and NY there is a huge difference between the few big cities and the rest of the state.

One of the things that entertain me is that everyone says Houston is a small market. They may not be Boston or NY but their fan base is a lot bigger than anyone gives them credit for. Even after the scandal I think the base grew. A LA/Houston WS would draw just as much if not a bigger watching than Boston/LA.

Astros and Rangers draw fans throughout the state and Astros reach into Louisiana. An issue is that those who run the media outlets that cover the sport live in and/or have loyalties to teams on the coasts. For them, Yankees-Red Sox is a major component of what is baseball. For those of us living in podunk flyover country we could care less.
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1:40p, 10/20/21
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Maybe Cora has figured out how to use buzzers undetected. lol
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1:41p, 10/20/21
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1:43p, 10/20/21
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Mad Dog Russo today (and has been very pro Astro since Yanks got bounced) "Astros get so much abuse for what they did, that people forget how good they are"
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In reply to KTAG05 • 1:54p, 10/20/21
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Chas has a .830 OPS vs lefties this year.
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In reply to Big Al 1992 • 1:54p, 10/20/21
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Big Al 1992 said:
Mad Dog Russo today (and has been very pro Astro since Yanks got bounced) "Astros get so much abuse for what they did, that people forget how good they are"
I listen to Russo regularly and 95% of the time he is pro-Houston. He bags on the Yankees for being little whiney *****es about the sign stealing.
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In reply to Wabs • 1:58p, 10/20/21
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True. Also bags on Red Sox fans for booing Altuve when they've got the mastermind in their own dugout.
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1:58p, 10/20/21
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Didn't know Chaz was a twin and a good (1K point in HS) hooper, he talked about it in the full interview.


Very cool to see Castro talk about seeing Altuve develop, considering he was there at the beginning.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 1:59p, 10/20/21
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Farmer1906 said:
Chas has a .830 OPS vs lefties this year.
But to be fair he does suck vs 4 seamers and sliders from the left side (what Sale will be throwing).

Siri's sample size is too small.

Jake rakes 4 seamers & sliders from lefties. It's too bad he can't go today.
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In reply to Big Al 1992 • 2:04p, 10/20/21
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Big Al 1992 said:
Mad Dog Russo today (and has been very pro Astro since Yanks got bounced) "Astros get so much abuse for what they did, that people forget how good they are"
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:13p, 10/20/21
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Farmer1906 said:
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Chas has a .830 OPS vs lefties this year.
But to be fair he does suck vs 4 seamers and sliders from the left side (what Sale will be throwing).

Siri's sample size is too small.

Jake rakes 4 seamers & sliders from lefties. It's too bad he can't go today.
I'm talking to myself at this point...


Here is how our guys have faired vs LHP throwing 4 seamers & sliders.



If I am making a lineup to jump Sale, it would look something like this.

Tucker
Bregman
Alvarez
Correa
Gurriel
Altuve
Diaz (LF)
Maldonado
McCormick (wish Jake was available)

After we blast him, you can insert Brantley, Castro in when they bring their righties in.

It's strange how good Tucker & Alvarez are in this situation.
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2:18p, 10/20/21
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2:23p, 10/20/21
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In reply to spadilly • 2:35p, 10/20/21
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Reggie must have a bunch of those hats. He gave one away to a worker at MMP after game 1.
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 2:36p, 10/20/21
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I know you said it's small sample size (17 PA), but according to Baseball Reference Siri's OPS vs LHP is 1.078. Interesting to see the numbers in the chart you posted. I wonder which pitcher(s) he faced for those 35 pitches.

As to your lineup, I'm still good with Altuve leading off. Not only is he good, he has a presence that puts the opposing pitcher under immediate pressure to get him out.
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In reply to redline248 • 2:51p, 10/20/21
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It just up 1.500+ if you take out the 4 seamers and sliders. Looks like he's crushed the sinkers, change ups, and curves.
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2:56p, 10/20/21
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Re: Siri. The good (and potentially bad) is that he's a lesser known quantity. You would think these days that's less of an advantage, but I think teams focus more on parsing greater detail on everyday regulars versus putting in the time on their opponent's bench. Could be wrong.



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2:58p, 10/20/21
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Also on Siri, doesn't hurt to have someone with a gamer mindset at this level of the playoffs. Only question is if he can back that up or if it's just of the Instagram 'for show' type.
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3:00p, 10/20/21
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May as well throw a wild card there. Siri could go 0-4 4K or 3-4 with 2 HR and a SB. One is as likely as the other.
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3:01p, 10/20/21
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Red Sox are just the Yankees wearing red. Change my mind.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 3:01p, 10/20/21
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Mathguy64 said:
May as well throw a wild card there. Siri could go 0-4 4K or 3-4 with 2 HR and a SB. One is as likely as the other.
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3:01p, 10/20/21
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All I want to see before heading home to Houston is for Yordan to pimp one out to right field.
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In reply to Mathguy64 • 3:02p, 10/20/21
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Mathguy64 said:
May as well throw a wild card there. Siri could go 0-4 4K or 3-4 with 2 HR and a SB. One is as likely as the other.
You know, you really could say the same about Chas. The outcomes won't swing as wild as your scenario, but the 0-4 or 3-4 is the same. Meaning, they are both unknowns. Kind of sucks when that's right in front of the ultimate known commodity.
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3:06p, 10/20/21
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My concern isn't about Siri going 4-4 vs. 0-4. My concern is him having a TOOTBLAN or brain fart in the field. He has shown multiple times that he is cut from the Carlos Gomez cloth that makes you do a McHugh WTF!? both on the base paths as well as in the field.
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In reply to YellAg2004 • 3:07p, 10/20/21
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YellAg2004 said:
My concern isn't about Siri going 4-4 vs. 0-4. My concern is him having a TOOTBLAN or brain fart in the field. He has shown multiple times that he is cut from the Carlos Gomez cloth that makes you do a McHugh WTF!? both on the base paths as well as in the field.

That is a concern, especially playing in Fenway's r3tardedly laid out outfield
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In reply to Farmer1906 • 3:12p, 10/20/21
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Reggie must have a bunch of those hats. He gave one away to a worker at MMP after game 1.


Ran into him in the Club level before game 1. I didn't realize who he was at the time and just said hello. He looks so different without his stache
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3:13p, 10/20/21
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Joe Buck is just the worst of America. He's a pure legacy, a member of the lucky sperm club and nothing more. I mean I get that good or bad, people are talking about him so that presumably has value to Fox.

But employing a commentator people are beyond tired of makes no sense to me. Ditto for Costas. These guys add nothing to playoff games and championship series. There's plenty of play by play and color commentators out there in the sports world. Why do we get jokers like that?
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3:14p, 10/20/21
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I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I never really understood the Joe Buck hate. I think he's fine. Not my favorite, but far from the worst.
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In reply to texasaggie2015 • 3:17p, 10/20/21
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texasaggie2015 said:
I know this is an unpopular opinion, but I never really understood the Joe Buck hate. I think he's fine. Not my favorite, but far from the worst.
MFer front runs, doesn't have any real insights, and is where he is primarily because pops got him there.

Any questions?
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3:19p, 10/20/21
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Commentators are like referees or umpires. They are noticeable when they are poorly calling a game.
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