***** Official Houston Astros 2017 Season Thread *****

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cap-n-jack said:

Check out the Yankees. This is the way you respect the game and your opponent. Not running and not hacking with a big lead.
Good on them.

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Ag_07 said:

cap-n-jack said:

Check out the Yankees. This is the way you respect the game and your opponent. Not running and not hacking with a big lead.
Good on them.

Worst post in 448 pages


Agree... and I've posted some bad stuff.
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Serious question: do any advanced metrics take into account inherited runners?

Honestly it pisses me off that Hoyt was only credited with 1 ER and surely there's something that compensates or makes up for value when including inherited runners...
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Nuke LaLoosh said:

Serious question: do any advanced metrics take into account inherited runners?

Honestly it pisses me off that Hoyt was only credited with 1 ER and surely there's something that compensates or makes up for value when including inherited runners...


No, they only weight an outcome per plate appearance. FIP is purely built on the three true outcomes. K, BB, and HR. xFIP normalizes HR/FB rate to league average.
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So Hoyt's FIP goes up just because it's a HR? It doesn't really capture that it was a GS.
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Silver lining...The Ranger BP blew another save and the ChiSox walked it off after scoring 3 in the bottom of the 9th
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Ag_07 said:

So Hoyt's FIP goes up just because it's a HR? It doesn't really capture that it was a GS.


No. Hoyt didn't load the bases.

LOB% is what Hoyt struggles with. But that "typically" normalizes to around 70%.
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Ag_07 said:

Silver lining...The Ranger BP blew another save and the ChiSox walked it off after scoring 3 in the bottom of the 9th


Dammit... meant to blue star emoji this.
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Oh and street cred norm thinks we know nothing about sports and was laughing and Lance and Dallas being one of the best 1-2 punches in all of baseball.

I guess they still think Yu and Hamels are one of the best. Wake me up when Hamels actually strikes out more than he walks. Thank the Lord above Cole Hamels rejected the Houston trade.
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Really nice write-up on Gray

Looking for a match in a Sonny Gray trade

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Gray has averaged 9.1 strikeouts (his highest since his rookie season) and 3.1 walks per nine innings pitched while inducing grounders at a 54.9 percent clip thus far in the season. His 93.4 mph average fastball velocity is still strong, and he's inducing more chasing outside the strike zone (31.4 percent) than he ever has in his career. Perhaps unsurprisingly, his swinging-strike rate (12 percent) and opponents' contact rate (74.2 percent) have both improved accordingly. Each of those marks is also a career-best for Gray.

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Astros: Houston has been the most oft-linked team to Gray, as many pundits expect that they'll add a front-line arm to join Dallas Keuchel and Lance McCullers in the playoff rotation. The Astros have plenty of high-end pitching prospects that aren't yet proven in the big leagues (e.g. Francis Martes, David Paulino) as well as upper-level position prospects that don't necessarily have a clear path to regular at-bats in the Majors (e.g. Kyle Tucker, Derek Fisher, Teoscar Hernandez). Houston also spent very aggressively on this past year's international market, so they'll have some potential impact talent rising through the ranks to replenish the system if they trade from their upper levels.

Put him on this team with this defense and this lineup and enjoy. I like a Gray/Madson or Doolittle combo
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Folty has a no hitter going to the 9th
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friscodick said:

BowSowy said:

Love those jerseys.

I'm going to grab one of these hats when they come back in stock. This is the concept hat they designed for those original rainbow jerseys, but they never actually used it.


That's a cap that will definitely age well...I might buy one, throw it in the dryer a few times and try to rough it up a bit as I think it would look better that way.

They have these in the team store now.
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Ok, got a buddy who threw a hypothetical here.

He is proposing a Darvish for Springer.

Not that it's ever going to happen, but what say you?

For the record, I vehemently disagree.
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ElJefeAG09 said:

Ok, got a buddy who threw a hypothetical here.

He is proposing a Darvish for Springer.



Your buddy is a Ranger fan isn't he?
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Trade someone who is on pace for around 50 bombs for a guy who is injured a lot. No tanks
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ElJefeAG09 said:

Ok, got a buddy who threw a hypothetical here.

He is proposing a Darvish for Springer.

Not that it's ever going to happen, but what say you?

I say it's time to find a new buddy
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Ranger fan here. My general read of Springer is that would be a guy who'd be pissed if you traded him. That seems like a way to have a guy who kills you in division all the time. I think the friend is smoking some impressive s***.
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ElJefeAG09 said:

Ok, got a buddy who threw a hypothetical here.

He is proposing a Darvish for Springer.

Not that it's ever going to happen, but what say you?

For the record, I vehemently disagree.


Your buddy is an idiot. Or is it Mark DeRosa?
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#OnPaceFor post here. We're at the 81 game mark. Easy math this time.



252 Homers as a team.
890 runs scored.

If Aaron Judge drops off a little, there's 2 legitimate MVP candidates on there.

George Springer at .289/.367/.581 with 48 homers, 126 runs, and 106 RBIs from the leadoff spot with gold glove defense will be hard to beat.

Crazy thing is... Aaron Judge's BABIP is .413. It very likely will come down some.
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ElJefeAG09 said:

Ok, got a buddy who threw a hypothetical here.

He is proposing a Darvish for Springer.

Not that it's ever going to happen, but what say you?

For the record, I vehemently disagree.
After doing my #OnPaceFor post... your buddy is even more idiotic.


This is like going back to 2010 and saying... would you take Roy Oswalt for Josh Hamilton?
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ElJefeAG09 said:

Ok, got a buddy who threw a hypothetical here.

He is proposing a Darvish for Springer.

Not that it's ever going to happen, but what say you?

For the record, I vehemently disagree.


Will you ask your buddy if he thinks my trade of Nori Aoki for Khris Davis will work?
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While the pen has been used a ton, we don't really have any overworked relievers. Part of that is because we continue to use guys like Hoyt and Feliz. While it hurts us from time to time in a game, it's benefiting us come September and October.

I know sometimes the best way to get a guy back on track is to put him right back out there in the same situation and let him have success. With Hoyt, however, I think a couple of appearances without inherited runners are in order before this guy jumps from the train.
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CFTXAG10 said:



Wtf
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Damn you Paulino! I really wanted to trade you and now you have no value!
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I seriously don't trust any Dominicans to not test positive. Why are so many cheaters from the DR??
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And just like that we're down one more pitcher.

Plus I thought PEDs made you better.
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Ag_07 said:

And just like that we're down one more pitcher.

Plus I thought PEDs made you better.

No excuse for cheating and still sucking.
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The Independence Day socks are awesome.
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6'7", need PEDs
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Got kinda lucky there...fastball right over the middle with an 0-2 count.
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Martes doing pretty well so far, that's with the ump squeezing him too
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Whooooopppp!!!
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El Yuli
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tremble said:

Martes doing pretty well so far, that's with the ump squeezing him too

I haven't been able to judge the calls, but aside from taking some early advantages to deep counts, he's looking really good.
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